Whats wrong with being bisexual

[CrimsonThunder]

Ok, just lately from a few posts I've been given a vibe that people think bisexual people are outcasts or something like that. And I want to know why people feel this way.

One reason people say they don't like them is because they could dump you for a person of the same sex... Well if you went out with a gay person they could dump you for a person of the same sex. WHATS THE DIFFERENCE?!

Apparently some people think bisexual people have many boyfriend or girlfriends... I don't know where that came about?

For me I'm more attracted to a bisexual guy because they tend to be more manlier. And it'd be a great for a threesome too. =]

So yeah, I made this anonymous so people can be as honest as possible, but remember to not do any personal attacts to members.

[Anonymous]

I know what you mean. I don't agree with the idea of bisexual people are unfaithful nor flirtatious.

Straight people thought(still think) gay guys are looking for only sex and they have HIV because they didn't know gay guys well because there weren't many gay guys around them, but then more gay guy come out, they realized it was wrong.

But since bisexual people aren't around you as much as straight or gay guys, people thinks bisexual people are unfaithful or flirtatious, maybe?

Bisexual person is hot:love:

[Kimi]

I know what you mean. I don't agree with the idea of bisexual people are unfaithful nor flirtatious.

Straight people thought(still think) gay guys are looking for only sex and they have HIV because they didn't know gay guys well because there weren't many gay guys around them, but then more gay guy come out, they realized it was wrong.

But since bisexual people aren't around you as much as straight or gay guys, people thinks bisexual people are unfaithful or flirtatious, maybe?

Bisexual person is hot:love:

I could swear I unchecked the box before even I start typing:tantrum:

[Miaplacidus]

I think that gay guys' fears towards bisexual people are the following:

1. Fear of not being able to fulfill their sexual desire (because they want women as well)

2. Disgust because they wouldn't like to put a penis which has been into a vagina (perceived as disgusting) into their mouths/rectums.

3. Pure, simple, straight-like intolerance.

I would date a 100% bisexual guy, as well as a homoflexible guy like myself. However I'd think twice about dating someone who was bi but preferred women (aka curious) In that case I'd worry about point number 1.

Point 2 doesn't bother me - I'm OK with vaginae and I'd like to have sex with a woman.

And well, point 3... I'm bisexual to some extent (4 in Kinsey's scale), so I guess that doesn't apply to me.

[CrimsonThunder]

Lots of gay guys have had sex with girls.

And why wouldn't you want to suck a cock thats been in a pussy before? Its been washed about a million times before its gotten to you :lol:

[davo-man]

I personally have no prejudice or anything against bi people. I simply don't care. i think people should just be able to love whoever they want without other people worrying about who they are loving if you know what I mean. I just look straight past sexuality (well I mean that I wanna knnow if you are straight/bi/gay to know if i can hit on you or not) just like I look right past race, religion and age (apart from situations where its necessry to look at these aspects of a person

To sum up, I don't really judge a person by their sexuality, race, religion or age. The only exception is when it directy affects me

[Anonymous]

1. Fear of not being able to fulfill their sexual desire (because they want women as well)

Good point:thumbsup:


2. Disgust because they wouldn't like to put a penis which has been into a vagina (perceived as disgusting) into their mouths/rectums.

Just like an allergy:icon_wink :grin:

[Kimi]

1. Fear of not being able to fulfill their sexual desire (because they want women as well)

Good point:thumbsup:


2. Disgust because they wouldn't like to put a penis which has been into a vagina (perceived as disgusting) into their mouths/rectums.

Just like an allergy:icon_wink :grin:

Why...I keep forgeting to uncheck the box:bang: :bang:

[Jerr]

I usually dislike bisexuals because they tend to be... sluts.

Same reason why I tend not to like most gay guys... slutty slutty slutty. I dislike it.

[JayHew]

Actually nothing.

All that can be said about one orientation verses another can actually be applied to all. And many of the things heard concerning various orientations turns out to be urban myth or legend.

Unfortunately opinions formed by people are very rarely changed unless those opinions are confronted in a very significant way and well that just doesn't happen often enough.

[waitingsucks]

Some Gay men (I only know about Gay men being 1) are untrustworthy or suspicious of Bi people b/c they think that they will only use them for sex. It's obviously not always true and using people for sex isn't only done by people of one sexuality. Many married men have had affairs with gay guys and still stayed with there wife even though the gay guy might be in love with them. Some ppl have then just built up this stereotype and don't even socialise with bi guys. Some others also have a suspicion that some (but not all) bi guys are really homosexual but just haven't come to terms with it yet, this is true with some people but the small group that this is true for might be used as a generalisation for all bi guys/girls. They don't want to have a relationship with someone who may not have accepted themselves yet.

This is not me btw. I can't really understand why people would generalise about bi people so much, it's just as bad or worse than gay ppl generalisations. But I guess if you had your heart broken you wouldn't realise what a big generalisation you were making.

This is really mainly just for getting into relationships with bi guys/girls I'm not sure about the prejudices that would make them not even want to be friendly to bi people. Hope my random going on and on helps :)

[Anonymous]

Some Gay men (I only know about Gay men being 1) are untrustworthy or suspicious of Bi people b/c they think that they will only use them for sex. It's obviously not always true and using people for sex isn't only done by people of one sexuality. Many married men have had affairs with gay guys and still stayed with there wife even though the gay guy might be in love with them. Some ppl have then just built up this stereotype and don't even socialise with bi guys. Some others also have a suspicion that some (but not all) bi guys are really homosexual but just haven't come to terms with it yet, this is true with some people but the small group that this is true for might be used as a generalisation for all bi guys/girls. They don't want to have a relationship with someone who may not have accepted themselves yet.

This is not me btw. I can't really understand why people would generalise about bi people so much, it's just as bad or worse than gay ppl generalisations. But I guess if you had your heart broken you wouldn't realise what a big generalisation you were making.

This is really mainly just for getting into relationships with bi guys/girls I'm not sure about the prejudices that would make them not even want to be friendly to bi people. Hope my random going on and on helps :)

Interesting post. I'm bi and I'm new to this type of forum and have mainly kept myself to myself over the years. Before coming to EC, I never knew that some people thought of bisexuals as waitingsucks has described.

Personally, I woud be gutted if any anybody on EC or elsewhere thought I was anything like what waitingsucks wrote. I'm not like that and I couldn't do it. Regrettably, I've come across guys who the minute they've known I'm bi have retreated hastily. Their loss. Fortunately, that hasn't happened on EC and I feel as accepted as anybody else - gay, bi, lesbian or anything else. Thanks all.

[Bromptonrocks]

^^^^ That was me..btw.

[Anonymous]

I have a few friends who don't know I'm out that openly express hate towards visexuals (happened last night acuallty). They think they're greedy and are just trying to get with as many people as possible.

It fucking pisses me off but I can't say anything sine I'm not out yet...but yeah

[biisme]

I usually dislike bisexuals because they tend to be... sluts.

Same reason why I tend not to like most gay guys... slutty slutty slutty. I dislike it.

what?

[24601]

1. Fear of not being able to fulfill their sexual desire (because they want women as well)


I think that's one of the biggest reasons why gay people avoid dating bi people. And because, yeah, gay people can dump you for other men, but bi people have twice the pickings and a straight relationship is much more socially acceptable and twice as easy compared to a gay one, therefore seemingly preferable if someone truly likes both genders equally.

[xxAngelOnFirexx]

the only problem i have with bisexuals is it seems they don't know what they want and are always confused. its like one minute you leans towards girls then towards guys. its like make up your mind! AND most gays and lesbians are bisexual first. like testing the waters so most bisexuals are just curious and will end up gay or striaght. so i wouldn't want to date a girl who ends up straight. or if i did i want to make her realizer girls are better and if she dated a guy next (like actually happened to me) i feel like i'm the one who turned her towards guys

[Anonymous]

I like bisexual people a lot but I would be worried dating one because they are attracted to both men and women. Not to say they would cheat, but it would be easier for them to meet someone they liked more if it could be a guy of girl. Plus they would want a girl cuz people would accept that better. and lets not forget those ever hated stereotypes. Those are a big reason why people don't like bisexual people. While they plague gays and lesbians, they also affect peoples perception of bisexuals and that is a big part of why people don't like them. but thats just how I see it. Some of the best people I know are bisexual

[Anonymous]

The truth is, I'm bisexual (prefer guys) but I'd like to be just gay.

[Miaplacidus]

^^ that was me btw

[Tom]

ive never thought anything like tht about bisexual ppl, i do know afew tht have said if they ever had one partner then they would always want to sleep witht he oposite sex aswell but they are like anyone else and would only do so if they wanted to cheat on that person, anyone can do that so i dont feel any differently about bi ppl as anyone else.

and ive never thought of bi ppl as outcasts.

[Ty]

As long as their faithful to me, then i wouldn't really care what their sexual orientation was, cause I know that they like ME.

[Anonymous]

I'm gay and i'm flirtatious.... so i don't think that being bi implais you been flirtatious and stuff

[step49x]

I do sometimes wonder where some of these stereotypes come from. And why I've never heard of them, beforehand.

Overall, I don't have anything against bisexuals. In general, As far as cheating, sluttiness, etc. goes, you'll find that in every orientation.

If I was looking for someone, it seems like I would try to seek out the gay guys, just because I'd know they were in the same situation as me. I think I'd be hesitant to date a bi guy, just for fear that he'd leave me for a girl. I guess it's similar to a gay guy leaving me for another guy, but to me, at least, there is a difference for getting dumped for a guy, and getting dumped for a girl. I don't know, I'm not super fond of the idea of a bf who stares at girls.

There are times, though, that I don't think it would be bad idea to consider bi guys. I am looking for a more masculine guy. A side question: Are there feminine-acting bi guys, or are they more masculine?

In some ways, I'm jealous of bi people. I look for gay guys. You look for people. Who do you think has more options? ;)

[Jim1454]

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

I don't think anyone is 100% gay, 100% straight, or perfectly situated in the middle as bi. We all fall somewhere on a scale or continuum. So it would be somewhat hypocritical for a gay person to slam someone that identifies as being bi.

I'm one of those people that classified themselves as 'bi' at first because I was obviously not 100% straight, but I was married to a woman and didn't think I could possibly be gay. Well guess what...? :icon_wink Now that I've accepted it, I consider myself to be gay.

Given that this is a fairly normal transition to go through, perhaps gay guys are leery about getting involved in a relationship with someone that is still trying to figure themselves out. I'm not sure why they'd be hesitant to develop a relationship with a bisexual man if they found they had lots in common and had fallen in love.

Perhaps that is the ingredient that we're not really considering in this thread. What kind of relationship are we talking about? If you're going into it worrying about which gender the person is going to leave you for, then you probably don't have enough faith in that relationship to be involved in the first place!

[sngl]

I think that gay guys' fears towards bisexual people are the following:

1. Fear of not being able to fulfill their sexual desire (because they want women as well)



Spot on! I also think that's one of the main reasons why many people are a bit afraid of or would rather avoid bisexual people. I don't look at bi people any differently than straight/gay or any other....but I have to admit I do have that irrational (or maybe not quite?) fear too. But no, I don't have any problems with bisexuals and I don't think there's anything wrong with being bi. If anything, they should be even more proud of themselves because I think it might be harder to be bi than to be just 'plain gay' :lol:

And as Jim said, if you're worrying about the gender your partner is going to leave you for, it probably means you don't have enough faith in the whole thing. A gay guy could leave you just as easily as a bi guy.

But I'm not bi and I've never really been in a serious relationship so what am I talking about? :lol:

[Anonymous]

Quite honestly, at times, I'm ashamed of being bi and not gay. Most people here are fine with bisexuals, and that's great, but there are a few who really make me wonder if I even belong here. I've even been told by certain members that I'm either gay, or that I'm straight, or that I CAN'T be bi, that I have to choose. The latter hurts me the most, because that's exactly what my mother said, and I don't like her words being echoed like that.

So why do I feel that I'm unwelcome or that people don't like bisexuals? They've told me. It's as simple as that.

[sngl]

Quite honestly, at times, I'm ashamed of being bi and not gay. Most people here are fine with bisexuals, and that's great, but there are a few who really make me wonder if I even belong here. I've even been told by certain members that I'm either gay, or that I'm straight, or that I CAN'T be bi, that I have to choose. The latter hurts me the most, because that's exactly what my mother said, and I don't like her words being echoed like that.

So why do I feel that I'm unwelcome or that people don't like bisexuals? They've told me. It's as simple as that.

Sometimes you just have to stick to what you know is right and true. People who tell you you have to choose between gay or straight obviously don't really know much about the whole thing, or don't really care or are just plain ignorant. And even though sometimes you might face a huge crowd of such people, you have to keep in mind that you are right and not them. You just know that being bi is just as normal and legitimate as being straight or gay. So don't let people bring you down. And don't be ashamed. You are welcome here.

(*hug*)

[Jamie]

To be honest, there's absolutely nothing wrong with being bisexual. These notions of bisexual men sleeping around, whoring themselves out and infecting us all is complete and utter tosh. It's no more true of bi's then it is of gays.

To be honest it's probably thrown around in jealousy by some gay guys who are annoyed that you could settle down normally and have kids, etc. And some straight people who really don't understand and think you're going to nick off with their girlfriends.

As for me personally, I really don't care whether one of my partners were gay or bi. It makes no difference to me and as long as they love me back and don't cheat on me, then it's all gravy.

That's my two pennies worth.

[CrimsonThunder]

Quite honestly, at times, I'm ashamed of being bi and not gay. Most people here are fine with bisexuals, and that's great, but there are a few who really make me wonder if I even belong here. I've even been told by certain members that I'm either gay, or that I'm straight, or that I CAN'T be bi, that I have to choose. The latter hurts me the most, because that's exactly what my mother said, and I don't like her words being echoed like that.

So why do I feel that I'm unwelcome or that people don't like bisexuals? They've told me. It's as simple as that.

Thats sad, those people are stupid for saying such shit. Do you realise that they're wrong? I hope so.

[Anonymous]

That's my two pennies worth.

omg. i read that quickly and thought u wrote "that's my two penises worth".

anyway, i have nothing against bisexuals, considering i am one. it's just, a lot of people think that because we feasibly could lik more people, we take that chance and sleep around. also, that we just wanna be have the best of both worlds.

[Anonymous]

I don't think there is anything wrong with being bi. I have a lot of bi friends and I think they are a blast, especially playing games like truth or dare and I Never. However, it is my preference not to date someone who is bi but don't know why. Maybe it's all the personal ads that I have seen that has declared that some bi female is looking for a 3rd person to have fun with her husband. Just guessing.

Anyhow, I know not all bi males or females are like that but it's just a preference. However, I wouldn't refuse a relationship with a bi female if I really liked her and wanted to give it a chance.

[Anonymous]

I usually dislike bisexuals because they tend to be... sluts.

Same reason why I tend not to like most gay guys... slutty slutty slutty. I dislike it.

what?

I said I don't like sluts, basically and the bi boys tend to be slutty... by tend I mean they all are here. Wait no.... wait yeah. haha.


Not saying all are... I mean I have a bi female friend... SO unslutty and not because she is ugly... she is HOT. Very hot. She has turned me on many a time. Girly too. She isn't a virgin but she doesn't sleep with random people.

The bi people I know are sluts. I don't like the slutness.

[Jerr]

^^^ me.^^^


Also note that just because I said that doesn't mean I judge every bi person I meet to be a slut. I give them the chance to prove either way.... it has just always turned out they proved to be slutty mc slutkins

[CrimsonThunder]

I usually dislike bisexuals because they tend to be... sluts.

Same reason why I tend not to like most gay guys... slutty slutty slutty. I dislike it.

what?

I said I don't like sluts, basically and the bi boys tend to be slutty... by tend I mean they all are here. Wait no.... wait yeah. haha.


Not saying all are... I mean I have a bi female friend... SO unslutty and not because she is ugly... she is HOT. Very hot. She has turned me on many a time. Girly too. She isn't a virgin but she doesn't sleep with random people.

The bi people I know are sluts. I don't like the slutness.

You're a bit hypocritical, you're the one that looks like a slut now.

And you're just going by stereotypes. So thats an auto-phail.

[Anonymous]

I usually dislike bisexuals because they tend to be... sluts.

Same reason why I tend not to like most gay guys... slutty slutty slutty. I dislike it.

what?

I said I don't like sluts, basically and the bi boys tend to be slutty... by tend I mean they all are here. Wait no.... wait yeah. haha.


Not saying all are... I mean I have a bi female friend... SO unslutty and not because she is ugly... she is HOT. Very hot. She has turned me on many a time. Girly too. She isn't a virgin but she doesn't sleep with random people.

The bi people I know are sluts. I don't like the slutness.

You're a bit hypocritical, you're the one that looks like a slut now.

And you're just going by stereotypes. So thats an auto-phail.

Ok... well I think the situation was a bit uh off.... when you have someone all up n grinden on your crotch (she claims by accident... psh!) and you haven't gotten off in months... you get turned on. It happens. I flat out told her and she laughed and I laughed... and slight stiffness was gone. lol

Full Fledged Gay here...

Hell... if I was anybit bi I'd ignore my gay side.

[Jerr]

^^^guess who....^^^^

[CrimsonThunder]

I usually dislike bisexuals because they tend to be... sluts.

Same reason why I tend not to like most gay guys... slutty slutty slutty. I dislike it.

what?

I said I don't like sluts, basically and the bi boys tend to be slutty... by tend I mean they all are here. Wait no.... wait yeah. haha.


Not saying all are... I mean I have a bi female friend... SO unslutty and not because she is ugly... she is HOT. Very hot. She has turned me on many a time. Girly too. She isn't a virgin but she doesn't sleep with random people.

The bi people I know are sluts. I don't like the slutness.

You're a bit hypocritical, you're the one that looks like a slut now.

And you're just going by stereotypes. So thats an auto-phail.

Ok... well I think the situation was a bit uh off.... when you have someone all up n grinden on your crotch (she claims by accident... psh!) and you haven't gotten off in months... you get turned on. It happens. I flat out told her and she laughed and I laughed... and slight stiffness was gone. lol

Full Fledged Gay here...

Hell... if I was anybit bi I'd ignore my gay side.

Oh my God.

How about you just ignore your gay side right now and just be straight?

Oh, you cant? Thats because you can't ignore it.

[Jerr]

If my gay side is my only side, it puts a slight damper on the whole "ignoring my gay side" thing.

[Anonymous]

If my gay side is my only side, it puts a slight damper on the whole "ignoring my gay side" thing.

I thought your friend from the female species was HOT, and has turned you on. Doesn't seem like you're 100% gay at all.

[CrimsonThunder]

^Me.

[Jerr]

She is a hottie! Blonde lil thing. Nice body. Short/little person.

Never turned me on before but we were watching a movie (Clockwork Orange) and the guy was being oh so hot (like the actor is) and she was rearranging on my crotch (were she lays) and I was getting turned on so I told her if she continued with that motion shed have to finish what she started. lol

We all laughed.

She was like OH!!! I'm not suppose to be able to do that!! It was cute.

That was like after 4-5 months of no action.


OH fyi.

Yesterday (or the day before... the weekend thaat just past) Made 6 months of no ejaculation for me!

woo hoo for being a walking hard on! I swear it's like being 11 again... erection every time I turn around. Funny as hell. I announce it to the people I'm with. (Friends.)

[Midnight Angel]

My friend who is bi gets really mad when people say bi's are greedy or slutty. Oh well. It's hard to make me mad so if people in the gay community and the straight community want to exclude me, that's fine.

[Anonymous]

She is a hottie! Blonde lil thing. Nice body. Short/little person.

Never turned me on before but we were watching a movie (Clockwork Orange) and the guy was being oh so hot (like the actor is) and she was rearranging on my crotch (were she lays) and I was getting turned on so I told her if she continued with that motion shed have to finish what she started. lol

We all laughed.

She was like OH!!! I'm not suppose to be able to do that!! It was cute.

That was like after 4-5 months of no action.


OH fyi.

Yesterday (or the day before... the weekend thaat just past) Made 6 months of no ejaculation for me!

woo hoo for being a walking hard on! I swear it's like being 11 again... erection every time I turn around. Funny as hell. I announce it to the people I'm with. (Friends.)

You're doing nothing for your argument.

You say you HATE sluts yet you have just proved you are a slut in many ways. And you are gay too, not bi. But gay people can't be sluts can they?

My friend who is bi gets really mad when people say bi's are greedy or slutty. Oh well. It's hard to make me mad so if people in the gay community and the straight community want to exclude me, that's fine.

Yeah, the word greedy is just thrown around by people that know shit, or are jealous. Greedy is taking it all for yourself and leaving none for anyone, being bi just means you have a wider range to look at and touch.

[CrimsonThunder]

Me again, screw this damn Anonymous stuff. XD

[Kimi]

Me again, screw this damn Anonymous stuff. XD

Hehehe, I guess I'm not the only one:p

[CrimsonThunder]

Me again, screw this damn Anonymous stuff. XD

Hehehe, I guess I'm not the only one:p

Must have rubbed off onto me while I was rubbing on you. =P

[Ty]

Gay Straight Bi.

Regardless, your all people, and EVERYONE could be a slut. Just because your Bi instead of Gay, that doesn't mean that YOU as a person are going to be a slut. Its down to the person's personallity.


To put it simply, its like lets say women are strawberry ice cream and men are vanilla. Just because you like both flavors, it doesn't mean your going to eat all the ice cream, does it?

[biisme]

To put it simply, its like lets say women are strawberry ice cream and men are vanilla. Just because you like both flavors, it doesn't mean your going to eat all the ice cream, does it?


i like that

and biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii the way...jerr...

how many bisexual people have you met? i CAN believe that the majority of ones you have met have been slutty, but you can't pass judgement on the rest of the bisexual community becasue of the small fraction of the people you have met. that's stereotyping.

that's lik people disliking the gay community because they met a gay once who was slutty......there are sluts in every sexual community. i just think bisexuals are considered more slutty b/c people notice more because they expect them to be. they EXPECT them to be because we're "greedy and we want everyone".

[Jerr]

I know I'm just oh so slutty because I let my friend lay on me when we watch movies and I make sexual jokes.

Bad Jerr, Bad! Be cursed with the sti's of sluttitude! (So loving that word.)




Look, that is just the first impression I get when I meet someone and before I know anything else, I know they are bi.

Just like when I see mista gangsta gangsta pants 50 times to big with shirt equally big... I'm going to get the impression they are into the hip-hop or rap or whatever you young things are calling it these days.


My friend is the LEAST slutty of people. She actually... I'll finisht his later. I gotta go

[Jerr]

To continue... she feels the same way about sluttyness. I mean hell she got on to me for having sex with my boyfriend. (good times... good good times...) She has had sex... with her boyfriend of like MONTHS I mean hell they went out for a LONG time. They are no longer together but she doesn't go out and do what not with who whatever. I'm pretty sure she has kissed other people sense then but nothing big and woe...

And she is BI.

She dated a girl before the year before for a while and they broke up (still friends) and they never did like WOE stuff... I believe make out was it... wait no I know that was it. (I remember asking her about this. Teehee)



The vast majority of bi guys I know (ok all the ones I know in person) were all slutty little "emo" boys who slept with anyone willing really... They were fun to look at at least but the sti's scared me away. Good thing STI's aren't transferred by staring!

[CelebrityHead]

Bi guys are hot!

I have no idea why they get crap from straights and gays alike, I was shocked when I heard there were such prejudices residing in some gays. Maybe some people assume that bisexuals are promiscuous and hard to have a stable relationship with. Which, I do not believe, personally.

[Anonymous]

I am sorry in advance for the super long post, but I was really hurt by some of the comments made in this thread, and as a bisexual, I really am astounded to see so much stereotyping and discrimination and "bi-phobia" here in a place like EC. Could one of the moderators review this thread and consider closing it? I think any legitimate points have been well covered and not much more can be accomplished by this.

the only problem i have with bisexuals is it seems they don't know what they want and are always confused. its like one minute you leans towards girls then towards guys. its like make up your mind! AND most gays and lesbians are bisexual first. like testing the waters so most bisexuals are just curious and will end up gay or striaght. so i wouldn't want to date a girl who ends up straight. or if i did i want to make her realizer girls are better and if she dated a guy next (like actually happened to me) i feel like i'm the one who turned her towards guys

It is not fair to say that bis need to make up their mind, because a lot of people are trying to figure out their sexuality, and telling them to make up their mind will not help at all! And it is not true that most bis are "just curious" and are actually gay, lesbian, or straight. That is like saying that being bisexual is invalid, that you are probably really something else anyway. It is incredibly dismissive. And you know that you can't change someone's sexual orientation by being a good or bad date, so you have to not stress about if your ex dates a guy or girl next.

I like bisexual people a lot but I would be worried dating one because they are attracted to both men and women. Not to say they would cheat, but it would be easier for them to meet someone they liked more if it could be a guy of girl. Plus they would want a girl cuz people would accept that better. and lets not forget those ever hated stereotypes. Those are a big reason why people don't like bisexual people. While they plague gays and lesbians, they also affect peoples perception of bisexuals and that is a big part of why people don't like them. but thats just how I see it. Some of the best people I know are bisexual


Ok, the major problem I have with this is how you say that bi people are more likely to cheat just because they like more of the population. Faithfulness is an individual moral and is not based on sexual orientation. If someone does not have moral code stopping them from cheating, then they will cheat as soon as they see someone, and everyone sees enough desirable people to cheat with, so bi people being able to be attracted to a larger set of the population is irrelevant. Anyone will cheat if they don't have enough morals not to, and there are certainly plenty of people to cheat with whether you are bi, gay, or straight.

Quite honestly, at times, I'm ashamed of being bi and not gay. Most people here are fine with bisexuals, and that's great, but there are a few who really make me wonder if I even belong here. I've even been told by certain members that I'm either gay, or that I'm straight, or that I CAN'T be bi, that I have to choose. The latter hurts me the most, because that's exactly what my mother said, and I don't like her words being echoed like that.

So why do I feel that I'm unwelcome or that people don't like bisexuals? They've told me. It's as simple as that.

I can't agree more. I struggled for a very long time with my sexual identity because there is such a huge discrimination against bis, so I spent the years trying to make myself straight, and then the better part of a year after that trying to be only lesbian people are very crude and derogatory about bi's. And even here, where I least expected it, I have come across some prejudice against bisexuals. PS I hate it when people tell me I have to choose. I absolutely hate it.


I said I don't like sluts, basically and the bi boys tend to be slutty... by tend I mean they all are here. Wait no.... wait yeah. haha.

Not saying all are... I mean I have a bi female friend... SO unslutty

That's an unfair generalization even if you do cite one example to the contrary. Big whoop. So you said basically that bi people are slutty, just not all of us. Thanks. REALLY helpful and thoughtful that one.

To put it simply, its like lets say women are strawberry ice cream and men are vanilla. Just because you like both flavors, it doesn't mean your going to eat all the ice cream, does it?


i like that

and biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii the way...jerr...

how many bisexual people have you met? i CAN believe that the majority of ones you have met have been slutty, but you can't pass judgement on the rest of the bisexual community becasue of the small fraction of the people you have met. that's stereotyping.


I agree totally with everything there.

[biisme]

thank you ^ (whoever you are)
:kiss:

[Psychedelic Bookmarks]

^^^^ right behind you, all the way, anonymous. i think i may be slightly bi myself, but i've decided i'll just take it easy and see rather than stressing. and i definately agree with everything you said - hopefully ec can help people to overcome their bi-phobia and prejudices.

[Anonymous]

Quite honestly, at times, I'm ashamed of being bi and not gay. Most people here are fine with bisexuals, and that's great, but there are a few who really make me wonder if I even belong here. I've even been told by certain members that I'm either gay, or that I'm straight, or that I CAN'T be bi, that I have to choose. The latter hurts me the most, because that's exactly what my mother said, and I don't like her words being echoed like that.

So why do I feel that I'm unwelcome or that people don't like bisexuals? They've told me. It's as simple as that.

I can't agree more. I struggled for a very long time with my sexual identity because there is such a huge discrimination against bis, so I spent the years trying to make myself straight, and then the better part of a year after that trying to be only lesbian people are very crude and derogatory about bi's. And even here, where I least expected it, I have come across some prejudice against bisexuals. PS I hate it when people tell me I have to choose. I absolutely hate it.

That was me you quoted :)

And I was the very same way. For a very long time I tried to make myself straight, and more recently, I feel like I've been trying to make myself gay. I've posted before about being frustrated about not being able to change my sexual orientation, and the replies I got, well they kinda set me back on the tracks.

So thanks, fellow Anonymous person :thumbsup: your post made me feel a thousand times better! (*hug*)

[Anonymous]

So thanks, fellow Anonymous person :thumbsup: your post made me feel a thousand times better! (*hug*)

It's times like these I feel like congratulating whoever thought of Anonymous posting! :eusa_clap

[CelebrityHead]

^^ That was me, I forgot to uncheck the box ^^

[Jerr]

Look, that is just the first impression I get when I meet someone and before I know anything else, I know they are bi.

Just like when I see mista gangsta gangsta pants 50 times to big with shirt equally big... I'm going to get the impression they are into the hip-hop or rap or whatever you young things are calling it these days.

I thought that was slightly clear but uh I guess if you're one of those people who believe that first impressions are lasting... Shame on you! RUDE!

I'll say it again... it is my FIRST IMPRESSION. The one you get before you know someone personally but just know minor details about them...


You go to school... you see new kid... new kid got suspended at his last school... (oh em jay... hes a bad boy!) Then you find out he was standing up for his best friend... and other then that incident he was straight A student who had never even been to detention.

Basically the same thing. I formed an opinion of the person before I knew the whole story based off my past knowledge of people in similar situations.

So far, all the bisexual guys I've met have been sluts... so if I meet a guy and all I know about him is he is bi... I'll think to myself he is probably slutty... but I won't treat him differently or say anything about it or drill him on his personal life to find out... it will be one of those things you think about but never mention. I would never treat someone differently because of that... assuming I would is RUDE! (You gotta hear me say rude in the way I mean it. Sounds a lil uh.... "odd.")

If I meet a bi girl... I'll pretty much assume she is one of those "OMJay! I kissed a girl at the party so I must be bi!" girls. then fill in what I wrote up there to complete this.

I'm getting on Starcraft now or I would.

[Anonymous]

So far, all the bisexual guys I've met have been sluts... so if I meet a guy and all I know about him is he is bi... I'll think to myself he is probably slutty...

If I meet a bi girl... I'll pretty much assume she is one of those "OMJay! I kissed a girl at the party so I must be bi!" girls. then fill in what I wrote up there to complete this.


That is not fair. You are making unnecessary, bigoted judgments about people based on their sexual orientation. I don't know why you think that bisexual people are any more "slutty" than people of any other orientation, but it's not true. Sluttiness has nothing to do with orientation, and even if it is just a first impression, that is a judgment that you are passing that has a more lasting impact that I think you realize. And you are saying that you assume bisexual girls are probably people who are too dumb to know what a bisexual orientation is and that you are more able to determine their correct orientation based on meeting them for one minute than they are for knowing themselves. That is hurtful and I hope that you are listening to yourself.

[QUOTE=Anonymous;101327]Quite honestly, at times, I'm ashamed of being bi and not gay. Most people here are fine with bisexuals, and that's great, but there are a few who really make me wonder if I even belong here. I've even been told by certain members that I'm either gay, or that I'm straight, or that I CAN'T be bi, that I have to choose. The latter hurts me the most, because that's exactly what my mother said, and I don't like her words being echoed like that.

So why do I feel that I'm unwelcome or that people don't like bisexuals? They've told me. It's as simple as that.

I can't agree more. I struggled for a very long time with my sexual identity because there is such a huge discrimination against bis, so I spent the years trying to make myself straight, and then the better part of a year after that trying to be only lesbian people are very crude and derogatory about bi's. And even here, where I least expected it, I have come across some prejudice against bisexuals. PS I hate it when people tell me I have to choose. I absolutely hate it.

That was me you quoted :)

And I was the very same way. For a very long time I tried to make myself straight, and more recently, I feel like I've been trying to make myself gay. I've posted before about being frustrated about not being able to change my sexual orientation, and the replies I got, well they kinda set me back on the tracks.

So thanks, fellow Anonymous person :thumbsup: your post made me feel a thousand times better! (*hug*)

It's good to hear that! I love to be able to share my own experiences and help others the same way so many people on EC have done for me!

Also, I will begin signing my anonymous posts with the signature "Blue-Eyes" to distinguish myself from other anonymous posters, so please nobody else use this, and I would also like to say that it was me who made that really long post in this thread earlier as anonymous.

---~Blue-Eyes~

[Jerr]

I'm loving how you deleted the part were my opinion changes.


I think I should be the person others assume me to be. I sound nice!


*snicker* people are funny and bastard coated bastards with bastard filling. You're never shocked in a negative way if you take that view. That is why I'm amazing at customer service!

So what if that is my ...I can't say judgment because that makes it sound final like my opinion wouldn't change. Which isn't nice of you to make it sound! Ruuuuude!

How is it hurtful? It is a thought. Something unspoken for the most part. You make it seem like I go up and tell people I think they are sluts before I talk to them. Now I do believe that would lower the number of people who uh reply to me. Although it sounds like a fun conversation starter... I'll say that one day... *mental note* Thanks for the idea!

People who try to be nice come up and assume up the best ideas for funny reactions! If only I were as evil/mean as you portray me... my life would be complete.... completely full of evil that is!

Muhahahahaha

:badgrin: <-- looked perfect for the emotion I was going for!



Also, when is life fair? haha You're funny, blue eyes.

Wait confused. I mean I honestly don't care if you disagree with me... my friends do all the time. Not on every issue but just those involving *mumble* kill *mumble* old people *mumble* evil *mumble* ...but that is to be expected!

I mean what you've said I don't believe is too personal to be known. Oh well. You're choice and kudos on it!

[Anonymous]

You certainly are rude Jerr, maybe you should think before you post such hurtful comments. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

How is it hurtful? It is a thought. Something unspoken for the most part. You make it seem like I go up and tell people I think they are sluts before I talk to them.

How is it unspoken if you're telling all of us here? And yes, the way I read everything you've written, it's like you're basically telling me that I'm a slut.

[Anonymous]

while i do NOT agree with what jerr believes (i am bi) , the post was to find out why people disliked bisexuals...

[Paul_UK]

We are getting a few post reports about various posts in this thread. At this stage we have not read through this thread sufficiently to make any firm opinions, but from a quick look at the last few posts it seems that we are having a good discussion but that some posters are being rather blunt with their views and posting in a manner that is bordering on argumentative.

I am not going to name anyone nor am I going to check who any of the anonymous posters are. However I would ask everyone posting in this thread from now onwards to please:

- Stay calm.

- Consider other people's feelings when you post. Even if your view is likely to be unpopular, please take care with how you word it.

- Try to read and understand the whole of a person's post, and respond to the whole post rather than just selected parts.

- Please try to avoid the discussion going around in circles with no progress or change of direction.

-----oOo-----

My personal opinion now...

I find it rather distressing that some members of one minority group (gay men) have such a negative view about another minority group (bisexuals). As gay men we know what it is like to be discriminated against, yet some still treat others this way.

The bisexual people I know are as committed to monogamous relationships as anyone else. Although they are attracted to both sexes, if they are dating a man they do not need to have sex with a woman at the same time, and vice versa.

[Anonymous]

Thank you, Paul.

[Anonymous]

I find it rather distressing that some members of one minority group (gay men) have such a negative view about another minority group (bisexuals). As gay men we know what it is like to be discriminated against, yet some still treat others this way.

The bisexual people I know are as committed to monogamous relationships as anyone else. Although they are attracted to both sexes, if they are dating a man they do not need to have sex with a woman at the same time, and vice versa.

Very well said Paul, I was shocked when I saw some of the discrimination in this thread. Its rather upsetting that gay people can be prejudice when they face so much prejudice themselves. I really don't get it.

[Behling]

:***:ing box. I could have sworn I unchecked it. oh well, that was me ^

[Anonymous]

I don't discriminate against bisexuals. This thread was just focussed on bisexuals. I pretty much don't like most males of any orientation because of the sluttitude (loving that word) that goes on with them. I know not all are. I usually find out if a new friend is or isn't. Now I have no problem calling a friend a little whore or what not because I know they would do the same to me were the situation reversed.

Women can have their own sluttitude going on but I've never been a woman... so I don't personally know from personal experience how they get when they get a bit antsy. I know how some friends react but I know when a guy gets a (rather annoying) physical uh... reaction when he is all up n antsyness.




In case it wasn't known before... I live in the south.

The gay population is small. (at least the out ones.) The only gay/bi people who get talked about and are well known are sleeping with everyone. (Probably why I don't like very many homogays in person.)

My experience has effected my starting opinion. (As experience does with everyone... dunno why I'm the one who gets blamed as it being a negative thing that I should be able to control... but whatev.)

I've tried to get to know some bi guys... well I do recon before I talk to a guy. Ask friends who know of him and ask about him... then I go to talk to them. Usually it doesn't end well because again... the only gay/bi people that are known are known for all the wrong reasons.






Does all this mean there is anything wrong with being bisexual?

NO


Is my first impression a negative one?

YES


Is is permanent?

Hell No!


Is it rude to think it is?

Sure is. (Ok I got tired of clicking the drag down what not hoosit thingy majigger)

[Jerr]

^^^I sooo unclicked it... but I guess if you press preview post it goes back to anon.^^^

[Paul_UK]

.......but I guess if you press preview post it goes back to anon.

Yes. I posted about this (http://emptyclosets.com/forum/showthread.php?p=100948#post100948) a week ago.

[Jerr]

.......but I guess if you press preview post it goes back to anon.

Yes. I posted about this (http://emptyclosets.com/forum/showthread.php?p=100948#post100948) a week ago.

Yeah... read that AFTER I posted twice... felt bad about it to. lol I don't guess I even needed to clarify that it was me because I doubt anyone would talk like me and say all that what nots.

[Red87]

I identify myself as bi, because I find woment attractive. Unless a woman came along who was like a 100% compatible with my personality, I won't actively seek out a relationship. I'm much more attracted to guys, and I will try and form relationships with them, whereas with women, if she comes to me and we 'hit if off' just right i'll go with it, but only if she comes to me. In fact, I've never had sex with women, only guys. I just don't know what to consider myself, I don't date women, just guys, however its not to say that I wouldn't be open to a relationship with a girl in a rare circumstance.

[Anonymous]

i really don't care about orientation but my mom strongly dislikes bi's she says there greedy and are either one or the other she wouldn't care if more of my friends were gay just she cares if there bi and it gets really confusing so i don't tell her much about the friends i make because she gets into this big speech about it if thier bi :confused:

[sdc91]

I don't see a problem with someone being bisexual.

Who says they're "greedy"? They can't help the fact that they're attracted to both sexes. That word makes it seem like they're having sex 24/7 or something with whomever they can find.

[biisme]

I don't see a problem with someone being bisexual.

Who says they're "greedy"? They can't help the fact that they're attracted to both sexes. That word makes it seem like they're having sex 24/7 or something with whomever they can find.

thank you. that is exactly right.

[Katness]

I can see the discrimination coming from heterosexuals. Now I'm not singling out all heterosexual, just the few that do discriminate.

However, it is worrying that it can also come from with in our own community. I know that a bisexual person isn't any less likely to cheat, or be supposedly "greedy" like I heard on other forums from both straight and gay/lesbian a like.

And to me it is about as much the same a a certain guy who happens to be gay (on another forum I'm on) who discriminates against transsexuals.

As someone who is very interested in human rights as a whole. It is one of my pet peeves. :tantrum: