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Micah
19th Jul 2006, 06:27 AM
After discussion with a few friends about Smoking and Drinking I thought it would be good to get a similar discussion started here.

Do you either smoke or drink? If so, how did u start? What makes you keep going? When do you do it? Do you enjoy it?

If not, what's put you off? Do your friends do it? etc

Personally, I have never smoked and never plan to. I really dislike the smell of cigarettes and kissing a smoker isnt the prettiest taste in the world.

Drinking on the other hand I do. Mind you I'll only drink in the company of others; never alone. I'll usually handle it fairly well, except I get overly confident and extremly un-co (more so than usual) - but that's not exactly uncommon.

How about you guys?

Proud1p4
19th Jul 2006, 10:18 AM
A smoker? Never was and never will be. It disgusts me.

Drinking. Yes. I enjoy drinking but never enough to get drunk. When im older it'll probably get a little deeper but right now i cant risk getting drunk, my parents would freak out, obviously. I drink when i know i can get away with it. Which isnt very often. My parents are pretty keen.

I'm the only one of my friends who drinks. But two of them used to smoke. One used to do weed, the other, cigarettes.

Paul_UK
19th Jul 2006, 12:04 PM
I don't smoke and never have. Smoking (lung cancer) killed my father when he was just 64 - less than a year from diagnosis to death. I also hate the smell so I rarely go to pubs etc unless they are totally non-smoking.

I have never drunk much. I used to drink a bit occasionally, when going out or with a meal etc, but as I am getting older I am finding that alcohol (even just one bottle of beer or glass of wine) always gives me a bad headache. So I just don't bother now, and don't miss it. A nice cup of tea is much more refreshing and satisfying.

imad
19th Jul 2006, 09:21 PM
I had a cigarette once. Before trying, I promised myself that I wouldn't have one again. It burned. It's not as addictive as the everyone makes it out to be. The thing with cigarettes is that people get into them because of friends. The first few are painful, but you smoke them anyway, because it looks cool. After a few more smoking sessions, your body gets used to it, and it's not as painful. Eventually, you begin to crave cigarettes, and addiction starts. No one ever gets addicted from the first cigarette.

Every once in a while, I smoke hooka tobacco. In my country, hookas are very common, and people smoke them in groups. Apparently they are becoming popular among teenage delinquents and university students in this part of the U.S. Hooka tobacco smoke is very smooth and doesn't burn like cigarette smoke. They're less harmful than cigarettes, but still bad for the lungs. The good thing about them, though, is that they are not addictive like cigarettes, unless you smoke frequently (a relative of mine got to the point where he would smoke his hooka every day. His body got used to it, and he began to need to smoke every day. Eventually he had to go to the hospital).

I also tried cannabis once. I can't describe it, but it was a lot of fun. There are a few people where I live who have made getting high into a hobby, and I never want to be like them. If I ever smoke the stuff again, it will be a looooong time from now. It's not physically addictive.

I've never been drunk or buzzed, but I do drink for the burning sensation in my throat and stomach, and for the flavor, but mostly for the burning. I plan on trying getting drunk once also. Just once, to know what being drunk means. This won't be anytime soon though.

Those who have read this far, I hope you don't see me as an ignorant teenager who doesn't care about his life or anything like that. I just don't see anything wrong with careful experimentation. I'm a good person, despite all the stereotypes and stigmas that come with drugs. :icon_mrgr

TriBi
23rd Jul 2006, 04:04 AM
Well...I'm older than a lot of you guys, so smoking was something that most people tried when I was young.

I smoked regularly in my teens to early 20's...then started getting more into sport/fitness and the desire went down. I did stay a "social smoker" for a while - mainly the odd one (or two) when I went out - but when I got really serious about my sport I just stopped. I can honestly say that I didn't really "give up" - more a case of, as I got fitter I just lost any inclination to smoke.

Now, I am like the worst reformed smoker and hate the smell of cigarettes - tho' the funny thing is that I can still smoke one (which I do every once in a blue moon, just blow people away who know how "anti" I am :icon_wink). I must admit I do actually enjoy a small cigar (Cuban) very occasionally - outdoors!

I enjoy a drink tho' - love a beer (most often light), or a nice wine, and I have a small collection of really good Single Malts - for the "right" time - Yum!

BTW, please note that I am not advocating drinking to excess (like most most people I have done that!) - I don't enjoy hangovers...no fun!

kevinx519
28th Dec 2006, 11:55 PM
never did either of them. and i dont think i ever will. i dont find smoking the least bit appealing. and it's affected my grandfather's health enormously (possible lung cancer). drinking on the other hand, i think is fine. but i don't know. i guess the fear of me becoming an alcoholic has stopped me from ever trying it. hope none of you think im a wierdo. :icon_sad:

BaciListClostridium
29th Dec 2006, 12:34 AM
I like the smell of cigarette smoke, but I tried smoking once and didn't like it.

I really dislike the taste of alcohol. imad, I think it's funny that you crave that burning sensation b/c I can't stand it! My friends try to find me drinks that "don't taste like alcohol," to which my response is, "Then why drink alcohol at all?" I still do -- just b/c I'm afraid that refusing a drink will make the people I'm w/ think I disapprove of alcohol -- but I'm thinking maybe one of my New Year's resolutions should be to not give into peer pressure and just stick w/ the soft drinks I prefer.

suburbs_of_sodom
29th Dec 2006, 08:57 AM
never did either of them. and i dont think i ever will. i dont find smoking the least bit appealing. and it's affected my grandfather's health enormously (possible lung cancer). drinking on the other hand, i think is fine. but i don't know. i guess the fear of me becoming an alcoholic has stopped me from ever trying it. hope none of you think im a wierdo. :icon_sad:


Hey, not at all. I think it's really admirable that you can identify the possiblity of becoming an alcoholic so early on and just avoid drinking all together. My family has a long history of alcoholism which has prevented me from going out and actually seeking alcohol, but I still don't have the self-control to refuse a drink if it's offered, so kudos.

As for smoking, I will never try cigarettes. Both my parents struggled for years trying to quit. They finally did it together as a joint New Years resolution at the beginning of this year, but I don't ever want to be in a situation like that. Plus, I kind of like my lungs. Weed on the other hand, I'm not completely opposed to trying, since it's not addictive in the same way nicotine is (to my knowledge) and it's no more harmful than alcohol. Although, again like drinking, I'm not going to actively go out and buy some...plus, I don't have the money.

kevinx519
31st Dec 2006, 12:44 AM
yeah. but still, im afraid that whenever my friends offer me a drink, i might not be able to refuse them. it hasnt happened before seeing as im still too young to do such things...legally. but well see. itll be my true test.

Qu_
31st Dec 2006, 09:50 AM
If you're afraid--have an answer ready. Don't let it be brought up and you have to think on your feet.

Anyhow, I don't smoke...or drink. All of my friends drink, and about half of them drink, but it's just not me. I've done both, and proceeded to it. I guess I figure I can have fun without outside substances in my body.

Gaz89
31st Dec 2006, 10:07 AM
I smoke occassionaly(Rarely). i dont drink, never have.. never been drunk. My family allways trying to get me drunk but i refuse. I can enjoy myself without drink!!!

Jamie
31st Dec 2006, 10:56 AM
Well as far as smoking goes i've only ever had one 'fag' (british slang for cigarette) and that's when i've been really really drunk at a staff party at the theme park I used to work at, and almost everybody else seemed to have 'sparked up'.

As you can imagine from the smoking statement, i'm partial to the odd drink. But i'm not hooked. For example i've not drunk anything for about a month and could never drink again if i wanted to. As for drinking, well when at home I can often have a little drink of whisky, when eating meals I sometimes have the odd glass of wine, and when at Party's, when hitting the town with some friends or when at Work functions I'm often seen sampling everything from the bar... Although you can't beat a pint of Magners Irish Cider with tonnes of ice (mmmmm). Unfortunately it does take alot of booze to make me drunk though.

I think that it's great that some of you have no desire to drink, to be honest I said i'd never drink at one point but then realised how nice it was :). But it's great that you can stick to your guns and don't feel the need to cave in to 'peer pressure'.

mrrolemodel
9th Jul 2007, 11:03 PM
ive only smoked one cigarette in my life.
and that one took me about four times to complete.
but not gonna lie. i do love the smell of cigarette smoke.
i usually only wanna smoke a little when i feel really sad/depressed.

ive also only been drunk once.
not gonna lie. it was fun. hehe.
i only plan on drinking when im safe from getting into trouble and when im with closer friends when i feel comfortable in the situation. heh.
and NOT when im driving. :)

jayden
9th Jul 2007, 11:30 PM
i dont im to young still but mum and dad smoke and dad also drinks a bit but not a lot

CrimsonThunder
10th Jul 2007, 09:51 AM
I don't smoke. I was pressured into doing it when I was only a few years old and I spat it out straight away. Ever since then I've kinda been scared of doing it I guess.

However I drink alot. :)

davo-man
10th Jul 2007, 10:21 AM
I cannot stand the smell of smoke and i personally dont think i would enjoy smokking anything and so will never in my life smoke ...that includes normal cigarettes, cigars or pot....I couldnt even ever date a smoker cos i find the smell disgusting and couldnt stand dating someone who had to go outside every half hour for a ciggie break...Also the cost is ridiculous...honestly i just couldnt justify spending x amount of dollars (sorry i dont know how much they cost, just that its a lot) for an addiction that is bad for my health and may end up killing you....But thats just my opinion and im sorry if it offended anyone

Drinking on the other hand i think is good IN MODERATION...i think its great to have a couple of glasses of "the social lubricant", but silly to go so overboard that you forgotten what you did the night before. I dont think its worth it spending money on alcohol and then forgetting wat it made you do...(sory i went back to money, im broke atm)...Again, im not saying that my view is the absolute right thing, just that its my view

SadConfusedBandGeek
10th Jul 2007, 10:35 AM
I wil never smoke, cause its gross and...well IT CAN KILL YOU DUHHH

And for drinking i dont plan to have anything till i'm 18 (then its legal)
And i dont plan to get drunk, (I am too much fun sober;))

Red87
10th Jul 2007, 10:37 AM
I smoke casually, and I suppose I got into it because of the military. I'd say at least 70-80% of the guys in my company smoke, and you'r really the odd one out. Besides, most of the guys who'v been deployed before swear you'll want them to calm down after tense missions, so Iraq and the war definately doesn't help. I'll have a few a day (maybe 2-4). I used to smoke up to a pack a day, but I'm trying to quit, especially since it was killing me on my run times.

CrimsonThunder
10th Jul 2007, 10:49 AM
I smoke casually, and I suppose I got into it because of the military. I'd say at least 70-80% of the guys in my company smoke, and you'r really the odd one out. Besides, most of the guys who'v been deployed before swear you'll want them to calm down after tense missions, so Iraq and the war definately doesn't help. I'll have a few a day (maybe 2-4). I used to smoke up to a pack a day, but I'm trying to quit, especially since it was killing me on my run times.

If smoking 'calms you down' find a more healthier way to do it. Like chewing a chewie or something.

Kimi
10th Jul 2007, 11:03 AM
Smoking = Low life

Somehow, that's how I feel about smoking even I know that tobacco used to be a luxury item. Having a knowledge of what tobacco does to your body and still smoking is stupid.
My dad used to smoke but he stopped it about 2 years ago and I was SO surprise to see how he looks different from before and after. And he is much healthier than before and so do us. No longer need to sit to my dad who is smoking like a chimney and soaked in the smell of tobacco and getting ask if I smoke or not at school and risking my life by just breathing. It's so ridiculous that passive smoke is much more high risk than active smoke:bang: :bang: :bang:

Drinking however, I don't think it's bad at all if you can control yourself. I mean, if you get drunk and ended up passing out or sleeping on sidewalk everytime then maybe you need to stop or decrease number of drink. I heard right amount of alcohol is good for your health so as long as you don't drive after you got drunk, drinking isn't bad.

And I don't smoke and I don't drink(Well, I do occasionally...):icon_wink

24601
10th Jul 2007, 11:10 AM
Yeah, everyone I've talked to or read about in the military smokes, mostly to calm down. It's said that the military runs on caffeine and nicotine. Anyway...

I neither drink nor smoke, and I have no intentions of starting either. With my personality, I easily become addicted to certain things, and I don't want to take any chances. I'd rather not have to need a substance to make myself feel better.

davo-man
10th Jul 2007, 11:12 AM
id much rather be addicted to hugs and kisses....and cake...could never give up cake

SadConfusedBandGeek
10th Jul 2007, 12:33 PM
id much rather be addicted to hugs and kisses....and cake...could never give up cake

hahahaha:) same here

Kimi
10th Jul 2007, 12:38 PM
id much rather be addicted to hugs and kisses....and cake...could never give up cake

CAKE!!!!!!!!!! I love cake:)

Torture
10th Jul 2007, 01:14 PM
I never smoked before, and plan not to. I do drink tho, with friends (partys).

SpikySpice
10th Jul 2007, 01:35 PM
I dont smoke at all, they let me try when I was 6 years old, I was coughing for the rest of that week, my eyes hurt and stuffs
I hate smoking, I DONT like it when any of my buddies smoke, so annoying, cant pay attention on anything else.
But my ex didnt smoke, good
Non of my family smokes, but my uncle, I really hate that, he smoked 2 packs each week

They made me drink when I was...4, taht night was horrible, I threw up and got sick , really really sick
But I returend drinking at the age of 14, lol, like after 10 years

Negasta
10th Jul 2007, 02:12 PM
I don't smoke, but I do like to drink.

Absolut Vodka and Sprite is my favourite.

Corey
10th Jul 2007, 02:18 PM
yeah. but still, im afraid that whenever my friends offer me a drink, i might not be able to refuse them. it hasnt happened before seeing as im still too young to do such things...legally. but well see. itll be my true test.

A few of my close friends don't drink... and in the begining u could tell it was really hard for them to turn down drinks... but ppl will respect what u r trying to do... and they will stop asking... but stay strong if it is what u really want

SpikySpice
10th Jul 2007, 02:20 PM
Absolut Vodka and Sprite is my favourite.

Me is Vodka mixed Whiskey

jman77
10th Jul 2007, 02:31 PM
smoking to me is really disgusting... i hate the smell and just everything about it. ive been offered a fair amount of the... illegal stuff but no smoking anything is disgusting to me

as for drinking thats a different story. its fine for me as long as your not driving at the same time... its illegal for me right now... 4 more years but oh well lol i had my first when i was 15 but i have never been drunk yet... and i usually dont when there is one bottle for 75 people.. yea not the sharing type lol but i drink with friends at parties

Blue0090
10th Jul 2007, 02:41 PM
nope i dont drink nor smoke

well as i grow older im gonna be drinking occassionally

but'll never smoke

EthanS
10th Jul 2007, 04:53 PM
i smoked but only for awile cuz it dint do nethin

Sugar
10th Jul 2007, 05:30 PM
I smoke and drink. I'm not addicted to either. I usually only smoke in a social setting or when I'm nervous. I started at 15 because I was curious. Like everything else I've done it was my own decision and no peer pressure. However, in college all my friends smoked and it was hard to resist. I smoked a lot during breaks now it's only when I go out. I smoke pot regularly however, i started that at 14. And I don't usually drink alone unless it's a nice summer day and I'm tanning outside I like to have a couple of beers. But I do go all out when I'm out with my friends. I started drinking at 13.

I love drinking/smoking with my friends we have such great memories together and yah there's been a few bad ones but nothing compared to all our amazing times. That's what keeps me going.

SpikySpice
10th Jul 2007, 05:31 PM
We can come out by drinking, but not smoking

wtinal
10th Jul 2007, 06:03 PM
I started smoking when I was 11 years old. By 12, I was smoking regularly (at least 1/2 pack per day). I smoked for 18 years. I quit about a year ago. I am really glad I quit. I have tried to smoke a couple of times since then, but it is DISGUSTING. So, I'll probably never start again. And ya, kissing someone who smokes is quite gross - my friend always says "kissing someone who smokes is like licking an ashtray". Really gross thought.

Drinking - I was addicted to drinking as a teen. I actually went for treatment for awhile because of my alcohol dependence. But now, I drink occassionally in social settings or maybe once a month at home - wine.

Steam Giant
10th Jul 2007, 07:37 PM
When I'm really depressed, if it's open as an option, I will drink. I don't want to, because your problems are still there when you wake up the next morning with a hangover, but the instant gratification is very tempting. Now, for others who may do the same thing, I have one warning for you. DO NOT disregard the warning label on anti-depressants or especially anti-psychotics that say you shouldn't take them with alcohol. I discovered from experience that it makes things VERY unpleasant while drinking, and the next morning, you have next to no energy and your thoughts get kinda cloudy. Thankfully, this is a great excuse for me to stop drowning my sorrows in booze.

Miaplacidus
10th Jul 2007, 08:11 PM
I don't smoke (I think it's nasty) and I very seldom drink. When I'm depressed I do something else, equally nasty.

mrrolemodel
10th Jul 2007, 08:58 PM
Smoking = Low life


I'm certainly not here to start anything.
Or be mean or anything like that either.
But I kinda felt I had to say something about this.

Personally, I do take offense to that statement.
Both of my parents smoke, my neighbors smoke, my aunt/uncle's smoke.
My cousin smokes.
Some of my good friends smoke.
These are some really GREAT people.
It's just a little rude to say that smokers are low lives.
Just because they smoke doesnt make them any less of a person.

Maybe Im misunderstanding your definition of lowlife? :dry:

Moth
10th Jul 2007, 09:07 PM
I've never smoked or drank, and I plan on never starting. I'm hoping to be in a band someday and I know smoking and drinking and drugs are a huge part of the "rockstar lifestyle," but I've seen it destroy or almost destroy so many bands and so many individuals (including some people in my family) that I plan to never even touch it once, because I don't want that. I know if I started I'd get addicted. I'd be a chain-smoker and an alcoholic, and I don't want that. I get addicted to unpleasant things really easily too, especially bitter drinks, so I'd have no willpower against it. I've got enough addictions already, I really don't need to add to it. I can't really say I will never touch a cigarette or a drink, because I can't predict the future and while I can resist peer pressure really easily, I can't resist my own escapism as easily, so it's possible I will get tempted into it. But hopefully I've learned enough from my mistakes and will be able to resist it. (Not saying that smoking or drinking is nessecarily a mistake for everyone - I think drinking in moderation is just fine and smoking socially isn't bad either, but it would be a mistake for me personally.)

Sam
10th Jul 2007, 10:06 PM
I do drink sometimes and smoke sometimes. smoking has a way of calming me down when I'm nervous. and drinking with friends can be fun as long as you are safe about it.

davo-man
10th Jul 2007, 11:12 PM
A few of my close friends don't drink... and in the begining u could tell it was really hard for them to turn down drinks... but ppl will respect what u r trying to do... and they will stop asking... but stay strong if it is what u really want

One of my friends has a very strong stance against drinking and most people in the year level know that he thinks drinking is dumb and that no one should do it...suprisingly he's not one of those goody-goody two shoes types, but more of a Chilli Pepper's, rock guy, but anyway, we all respect his decision to not drink, but i think the problem begins when he begins telling everyone else that they are bad for even drinking in moderation...Whilst its perfectly fine to have ur own opinions, im not sure if its alright to try to force them on others...Same as my other friend James H, i migth have talked about himbefore...Hes very much against both drinking and smoking and calls anyone who does sl*ts and l*sers....now personally i think its fine that he doesnt want to drink or smoke, but it is kinda annoying because everynow and then i will engage in drinking some alcohol....His is more because this one tim ehe gots sooooo drunk that he wrecked his house, destroyed some stuff and passed out, so he never wants to do that again, but i keep telling him that like everything else, its all about moderation

Midnight Angel
10th Jul 2007, 11:20 PM
I loathe cigarettes but I do like alcohol lol

Jim1454
11th Jul 2007, 08:28 AM
I enjoy the occassional drink or two. Rarely any more (driving, kids, responsibilities, blah blah blah) do I reall 'tie one on'. And usually only when I had one of those evenings when I indulged would I ever smoke. At any other time, it never occurs to me to have a cigarette.

RomanceSlayer
11th Jul 2007, 08:29 PM
I have never smoked, and I donīt really want to start..I hate the smell
But I like alcohol...I only drink in parties but not as much as I used to, the excess caused me some problems with my family lol

jayden
14th Jul 2007, 12:30 AM
If smoking 'calms you down' find a more healthier way to do it. Like chewing a chewie or something.

i dont want to ever smoke or drink i wish my mum and dad would give up smoking also!!!

Miaplacidus
14th Jul 2007, 12:32 AM
i dont want to ever smoke or drink i wish my mum and dad would give up smoking also!!!

I've been battling their habit since I was born and they don't quit... grrr at least I don't let them smoke inside my bedroom.

suburbs_of_sodom
25th Jul 2007, 03:34 PM
I actually had my first cigarette because of alcohol. Sorry, make that my first five. I was completely trashed last Sunday and thought it would be an excellent idea to have a few of my friend's. Apparently we actually ended up making out later. I don't really remember this part, but one of my friends called me yesterday and told me because she had seen a video that my other (much more sober) friend had sent her. She also told me that I would have ended up having sex with her if I had a condom. Yes, that's right, HER. Thank GOD I was never a boy scout.

btw the cigarettes were pretty sucky, I was sick the entire night from the booze, the friend who sent the video and I are mutually pissed at one another (apparently I called her fat amongst other things when I was trashed), and I never ever want to drink again.

SOooo...the point of the story here is not don't ever get drunk, but try it. It's an experience and the only way you'll ever truly learn just how shitty it can be. No amount of 1980s drunk driving dangers videos can teach you that.

Psych!
25th Jul 2007, 04:09 PM
I actually had my first cigarette because of alcohol. Sorry, make that my first five. I was completely trashed last Sunday and thought it would be an excellent idea to have a few of my friend's. Apparently we actually ended up making out later. I don't really remember this part, but one of my friends called me yesterday and told me because she had seen a video that my other (much more sober) friend had sent her. She also told me that I would have ended up having sex with her if I had a condom. Yes, that's right, HER. Thank GOD I was never a boy scout.

btw the cigarettes were pretty sucky, I was sick the entire night from the booze, the friend who sent the video and I are mutually pissed at one another (apparently I called her fat amongst other things when I was trashed), and I never ever want to drink again.

SOooo...the point of the story here is not don't ever get drunk, but try it. It's an experience and the only way you'll ever truly learn just how shitty it can be. No amount of 1980s drunk driving dangers videos can teach you that.

basically ur saying don't smoke, and don't drink but try drinking to see that it's bad?

Jerr
25th Jul 2007, 04:27 PM
*snicker* Man... I miss my original thread.... anyone remember that? It was a wee bit more heated but I enjoyed reading others views.




Do you either smoke or drink? If so, how did u start? What makes you keep going? When do you do it? Do you enjoy it?

If not, what's put you off? Do your friends do it? etc





I don't really smoke... now I'll smoke on a hookah with friends. It is funny really... Nothing oh so strongly desired... no strong outcome from doing it... I mean I don't feel more relaxed or anything but it is funny that I have stronger lungs then my best friend and she is a hardcore singer... her family owns the hookah and really has only smoked like 5 times in her life on it. IT WAS TOBACCO.... although I wouldn't doubt it if there was some not so legal stuff on it way back when. (It is like from the mid 60's)

I've made out with smokers and it doesn't really bother me although if you smoke in your car clean out the cigarette ash trey... if you leave cigs in it and ashes in it your car will smell horrid.... I've grown up with smokers I don't mind smokers but when a car has the concentrated smell of over 1000 cigs.... (I've been in a car like that...)


I don't drink alone... I don't drink often though if I'm offered I won't turn it down (unless I have to drive.) I just refuse to drink alone and usually I don't go out to all night drunk fests lol.

GuitarGirl1350
25th Jul 2007, 06:58 PM
Hah, I remember the original thread Jerr, if I recall it got me into a spot of trouble...

Choucho
25th Jul 2007, 08:50 PM
Both my parents and most of my other family drink and smoke (and not just cigarettes) and like half the people I've ever met in my life do at least two of the things if not all three. But I don't do any of them, because I really don't see the point. I hate the smell of cigarettes and alcohol, and I hate the taste of smoke when I breathe it in, even though I've lived with it my whole life. I never try to force my opinions on other people but more often than not I have people tell me how boring and stuff it makes me, and my sister's tried to convince me into drugs on more than one occasion. If people want to drink and smoke and such, that's up to them, I just don't like to hear about it or have people who know I don't like it try to convince me I'm wrong or bug me about it. >.< *end long explosion thinger*

Isaac
25th Jul 2007, 10:11 PM
I dont drink and dont smoke. I dont think i could be in a relationship with somebody who smoked, but somebody who drnak would obviously be okay, as long as they were mature about it. It pisses me off when people just buy tons of alcohol just to drink it and taht geeling of being drunk! Being Italian (my dads side), he was given drinks at like 10/11, maybe 1/2 a glass but it was asign of maturity. He was now old enought o have some, and gradually he could have a bit more, and so he never saw it as a big thing. Me, i try the stuff but apitit out! I dont like the test, and dont want to ahve to 'drink a lot to like it'. When going to Europe kids are obsessed that there kids can drink at like age 12! But to them, like me dad, its a maturity thing.

Theyd ont buy vodka to just chug in a few minutes and the feeling of being drunk. They take sips, taste it and enjoyit. I dont drink becasue i dont like teh tase, and i would rather have someting else. I ahve a lot of relatives who are alcoholics, and one or two in my family who drink a lot so i know its in my family. Knowing that it s a problem i chosse not to do it. Maybe when im a lot older, and want to but not now, There are too many immature people who just drink their face off. People tell me that im going to have a problem in university because i dont drink! How fucking stupuid, excuse the langue!

suburbs_of_sodom
26th Jul 2007, 05:47 AM
basically ur saying don't smoke, and don't drink but try drinking to see that it's bad?

Well, I mean, if you've already made up your mind not to drink, then that's great. But if you're not sure, like I wasn't, or you want to try it, then fine, get smashing drunk, learn from your experience, and from that decide if you want to keep drinking. For me, getting drunk was the only way that I could probably ever learn not to drink, even casually.

So I guess what I'm saying is that your own experiences are really the only things that will resonate for you, so learn from them.

Jerr
1st Aug 2007, 11:45 PM
I got :***: faced on new years and vommited.... didn't mind I'll still drink.... I accepted I was going to vomit when I was drunk earlier... I chose to... I had a crap load of rum the whole night and I chose to drink a glass with crown in it*** so yeah... ended up puking... on myself because I didn't want to get it on the carpet (I'm a considerate drunk.... weird I know) but I'm fine... mom made fun of me but she just doesn't want me to drink so she was like "See it isn't so fun is it?" I was like... "I have no problem with this... I figured I would after I had that one glass of crown so whatever. I wouldn't change what I did at all and I wouldn't mind doing it again." Oh... she was pissed. lol she thought getting me shit faced would change my mind.... lol oh well pooop on her face!





***Don't mix your alcohols!!!! darks with darks clears with clears. lol

tinkerbell
2nd Aug 2007, 02:46 AM
Smoking would be my suicide because I have underdeveloped lungs. I dated a woman who smoked and tried not to be around too often when she went out for a smoke. I am also predisposed to being addicted to cigarettes faster than most people because of my genes. Smoking is not my thing anyway, so I don't do it. I do not drink because I am predisposed to alcoholism genetically and drinking is not my thing. I am also not legally able to purchase alcoholic beverages where I live.

So I engage in neither activity.

Vampyrecat
9th Aug 2007, 04:33 AM
I have never, and will never smoke. The say smoking kills, but if you survive the throat cancers that return again and again, like it did with my dad, you get a pretty good idea of how horrible cigarettes are.
Maybe Marijuana once though. But not planning to anytime soon.

Drinking.
I have gotten very drunk on more then one occasion. I am a very weak drinker. Three UDL's and a Cruiser, and I'm drunk enough to throw up then pass out.. And I didn't like that very much, so I'm not drinking like that again.
I usually only need two light drinks, and I'm drunk. I don't mind the first hour or so, where everything's a hundred times funnier then normal, but I don't like it when I start to shake and get really dizzy and feeling yucky.

ppreston9
9th Aug 2007, 12:32 PM
i unfortunately started smoking from bad friends. they are no longer friends and i no longer smoke. but, drinking i will do occasionally if there is an event like bday parties, end of school ect

Michiyo
9th Aug 2007, 03:32 PM
uhmm hoesntly for along time i wanted to but thats when i had problems and i heard that it can calm you down.

never done it

i find it repulsive now.

dousedfirepants
10th Aug 2007, 03:52 AM
It's kind of funny. A few of my friends are planning to smoke pot (with, of course, a "professional" who knows all about being high) for the first time tonight, and I had no impulse to ask to join them. I would say that I have good parents, but they really never talked to me about drugs/alcohol/sex/anything-important-except-for-money-and-academics. Heh.

I get headaches whenever my friends smoke [cigarettes] around me. So...I don't smoke.
And I hate the smell that lingers on my clothes after hanging out with people who smoke. And after hanging out at bowling alleys after ten o' clock on Friday nights.

Hm...I don't really like the taste of alcohol. My one friend said, "Wine is just fruit juice with alcohol -- only much more disgusting." I can't say I don't agree with her.
I've only tasted beer one time in my life, and the flavor was...not agreeable to my tastebuds.

I'm pretty much a drug-free person. Woot. Yeah...

Scoz
12th Aug 2007, 09:02 PM
I've just been reading the post's and its generally accepted that smoking is bad and dangerous , i mean my grandfather and many of your relatives died from it . I am a smoker , i'm not proud of it , but unless your a smoker you really dont know how hard it is to give up . It was easier for me to give up my drug abuse . I have tried to give up and i intend to try again . but it is hard . I started smoking in high school because my friends did , and i have smoked ever since . I am glad the laws have changed and its harder to smoke in public , not only will it make it easier for me to stop but it may help others not even start .

I do like having a drink with my mates , even getting drunk ( i hate the hangover ) i wouldnt call myself an alcoholic because i dont do it to escape , i enjoy the taste of beer and i like hanging around at the pub with friends being an idiot . I think the main thing is as long as your not doing it to escape or to feel better about yourself its ok , oh and yeah you have to want to , never drink because you think others will think your cool . I have lots of mates that come out with me and dont drink , i have just as much fun with them . I think my mates are cool because they make there own choices and they are themselves . I dont need to drink to have fun , one of the best nights of my life me and my mate drank water all night and danced all night , it was fantastic ( and no hangover :) ) .

Pyro
12th Aug 2007, 10:03 PM
I am a regular smoker... I tried alone and nobody ever encoureged me to some (on the contrary). I don't know... I just like it, I'm not addicted because i've had long hiatus and never became stressed but smotimes it taste very good. btw I smoke Lucky Strike

I drink only whem i go out with my friends... Fav drink Pineapple Malibu

Rette
12th Aug 2007, 10:35 PM
I'll smoke a cigar every now and then, but never cigarettes.

I do drink, though. For the most part, I'm a fairly casual drinker; one, maybe 2 beers at a time. Mostly, just because I really, really like beer. I'll binge maybe once a month or so, but such is the life of a student, I suppose.

Miaplacidus
12th Aug 2007, 11:40 PM
I drank some Martini with lemon and ice last night, lol.

wtfbrandon
12th Aug 2007, 11:45 PM
I drink when I party. I only smoke when I'm drinking, but I don't even smoke that often. I used to drink alot but not so much anymore.

Kenko
13th Aug 2007, 04:12 PM
I refuse to do anything with tobacco because my grandfather, my father, and my aunt all had a very had time giving up Tobacco. And when I compare the cost benefit against other mind altering drugs, it's pretty low. I'm surprised how many people I know are casual cigar smokers. I just politely decline if offered.

I do drink, I might drink heavily with my friends once a month or so. I try not to over do it. I like being slightly buzzed (as alcohol is a wonderful social lubricant), but I don't want to overdrink to the point where I do something really stupid, get really sick, forget the whole night, hangover, etc. Then it stops being fun. I like beer best. My mom has tried feeding me wine for years and I still hate it. Especially red. Spirits taste like they're eating away my stomach, but beer always seems to taste good, and is self limiting, which helps against getting too drunk. There's also a wonderful array of beer that goes good with any meal.

The only thing I have ever smoked was pot once. It was.... interesting. It's a shame non-smoking methods of pot aren't more popular.

My advice to everyone who hasn't smoked / drunk / etc. Don't worry. I respect people that decide not to and stick to their guns. And if you're young, don't worry about it. It's probably better to wait till you're older.

Also I don't think there's anything wrong with trying something just once. Just make sure it's in a good setting (with friends, etc).

Double Dubya
13th Aug 2007, 09:25 PM
Yuck Yuck Yuck!!! Smoking and Drinking is soo gross

Miaplacidus
14th Aug 2007, 01:09 AM
One of my uncles died due to lung cancer and I remember the last days of his life, how much he suffered and all. Morphine wasn't strong enough to kill his pain. Then he died drowned in his own bodily fluids. How nice huh?

Don't smoke, people.

Gera-Kun
14th Aug 2007, 08:49 AM
I don't smoke nor drink...figures cause i have over-protective parents which don't let me go out or anything unless it's with a friend and a parent...

Paul_UK
14th Aug 2007, 12:07 PM
One of my uncles died due to lung cancer and I remember the last days of his life, how much he suffered and all. Morphine wasn't strong enough to kill his pain. Then he died drowned in his own bodily fluids. How nice huh?

My day died of lung cancer too. He was in a hospice and woke up in the early hours of the morning coughing up massive quantities of blood. The loss of blood pressure caused a heart attack. This, combined with lungs full of blood, is how he died. None of us were there, though mum had seen him the evening before, my sister and her kids only a couple of days before and me a week or so earlier. The hospice staff were with him when he actually died (he had managed to press the alarm).

He was diagnosed only 10 months earlier. He had radiotherapy which had no effect, then just one treatment chemotherapy which affected him vary badly. He never really got over that dose of chemo, and I think it helped him on his way.

He was 64 when diagnosed, and had only retired a few months earlier, after working his whole life since leaving school at 14 (he had smoked his entire working life too). So he lost his retirement, which he had been looking forward to and planning for. He and Mum celebrated their ruby wedding anniversary (40 years) about a month before he died.

Don't smoke, people.

Agreed.

godfather
14th Aug 2007, 12:45 PM
never smoke!!!!!!!!!! urrrr
i some times have one drink at party or new year but try to live healthily!!

Behling
14th Aug 2007, 12:51 PM
Smoking and Drinking are two things I never plan on doing. I can't stand smoke and alcohol of any kind is gross.

tired_of_lying411
14th Aug 2007, 06:28 PM
I have never and will never smoke. Anything.

I have never but will someday drink... but only a little.

Gera-Kun
14th Aug 2007, 06:34 PM
I may end up drinking, but only a little, but ONLY wine. no beer. It smell gross...

Torture
14th Aug 2007, 11:52 PM
I don't smoke but I drink. I don't think I will ever smoke.

Hydrogen
15th Aug 2007, 12:49 AM
Ah.. reading some of the replies makes me sad.

As some of you know, I lost my dad at an early age. Due to this, I became very close to my Grandfather. I only got to see him on rare occasions because he lived so far away. When my dad was growing up, Grampa became an alcoholic and left my dad, his brother/sister and my Grandma. My dad and Grampa only met again a few months before my dad died. My Grampa had never been able to get over leaving his family, and after my Dad's death, and the rest of the family not speaking to him, he decided to "start over" and act like I was his "son". We somehow became friends, he told me of his days in the army, etc. However he was a three pack a day smoker.

It has been three years since I stood by that bed, as he died. Coughing, bloody, and in more pain than I have ever seen.

Then only a few months ago, I also found myself in an almost identical situation, my best friends Aunt died of lung cancer as well.

Please don't Smoke. For whatever reason I tried once, and some people I guess just have an addicting personality, as I craved another for weeks. However thanks to the wonderful people that surround me, I was able to never touch one again.

I also learned the dangers of drinking from my Grampa. I do drink, however I have learned my limits, and I'm responsible.

Today4U
15th Aug 2007, 01:02 AM
Very wise words! nice to here them coming from a person of experience. Me... well, I never have, and never will smoke or drink!