Why is the Right Wing so homophobic?

Because part of that group is very conservative and very loud at the same time.

 

Right wing isn't really the correct term, because right wing refers to liberal economics, and one can believe in that and be socially libertarian, and a left-winger can be racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic, but believe in state economics. It just so happens that the most vocal homophobes happen to be right-wing loud mouths, but I can guarantee that are homophobic socialists too, they just don't have as much voice nowadays.

 

Because of the conservative's traditional alliance with religion, particularly traditional religion, which for the most part still hates us. But its not just homophobia, the conservatives are generally more sexist and racist.

 

the left wing isn't 'state economics' any more than the right

and usually the right is where the conservatives/reactionaries are so it just makes sense

 

Conservatives, if given the chance, would be Fascists, dictating for everyone, the way they should be. Conservatives are anti democratic, anti libertarian. They see danger in people thinking freely and making their own choices.

 

In this current moment in time, the Right is associated with Conservatism and Conservatism is basically a philosophy grounded in Fear. Fear of change, fear of anything that might drive change, fear of anything or anyone that is different, etc. This is also why Right-wing conservatism and religion are so often associated together. Many/most religions are based on fear, specifically the fear of death.

LGBT people represent both difference and change right now and so drive Conservatism nuts.

This is before we get into the issue of the millions of dollars to be made in all this. Politics may come and go, but Greed goes on forever.

My 2c worth,

Todd

 

Good summation.

A lot of the conservatives became just like the extreme liberals, pushing the power of the state instead of individual freedom. I'm more libertarian myself.

 

In ideological sense they are. In Britain there is less and less of a true left wing representation in the Commons after the 'consensus' that has been formed after the relative success of Thatcherism bringing Labour closer to the Conservative Party in terms of ideology put into practice (such as the rewritten Clause IV by Tony Blair). We can't say that Labour are left wing anymore because that's not really true if they are still lauding capitalism, because the whole point of the left-wing is more state control in economics.

You can still get left-wing people who believe that wealth should be distributed between the society, but they could believe that black people and LGBTQ people are below society, therefore they get much less. That's just as socially conservative as the right wing nut jobs everyone is well acquainted with, it's just nobody gives left wing economics the time of day anymore due to the relative advocacy of Thatcherism in the media coverage (in terms of things like strivers and scroungers being banded around like chlamydia) and people tend to associate former Labour economics with 70s IMF bail outs and the Winter of Discontent. (Which of course renders their opinion pointless and misguided, apparently, despite so many of the old Thatcherite Lords mouthing off to the tabloid press against the evils of gays and Europe) So that's why we don't hear of their existence.

That was a very long winded explanation.

 

Here in the States it's mainly pandering to the religious right. Gay marriage and abortion are the issues Republicans use to get the Southerners to keep bending over and taking their failed economic policies.

These Republicans are the same people who say Barack Obama is a Kenyan Muslim Socialist Communist terrorist aimed at the destruction of America, and that the Muslim Brotherhood had used Obama to infiltrate the United States government.

They're the ones who say that everybody, no matter how wealthy or how well-off and self-made you are, that anyone and everyone who votes Democratic, which in 2012, was 65,899,660 people, lives on welfare and just refuses to work.

They're the ones that say that 47% of the American population, which is 148,612,635 people "Think of themselves as victims, and are dependent on the government."

They're the ones that spent 8 years that if you didn't support warrentless spying and wiretapping under the Bush administration that you were unpatriotic and un-American and that you should be deported. 4 years after Bush leaves office, when the same plan is continued, Republicans are now screaming bloody murder that "Big Brother is watching you!!!"

They're the ones who talk about innocent civilians being killed in dronestrikes, when the Iraq War killed 10x more innocent civilians than American soldiers.

They're the ones who say that all life must be protected from conception until natural death, and then later that day sign an execution warrant to put a criminal to death.

They're the ones that talk about balancing the budget and fiscal responsibility, when their party is responsible for about $11 trillion of the current US debt.

They're the ones that think there are certain types of rape that are illegitimate, and that women who are victim of a "legitimate rape" can't get pregnant.

They're the ones who think eggs and corporations are people and only care about those two. After you're born, you're on your own.

They're the ones that think women should exist only to be a brood mare for her husband and to spend their lives in the kitchen. "Educational troubles began, I think when both parents started working. And the mom is in the work place." -Phil Bryant, Republican governor of Mississippi

They're the ones who love Wal*Mart so much, and when a new Wal*Mart opens, blames the closing of all the local mom-and-pop shops on Obama.

They're the ones that hate immigrants and want to permanently close America's borders to anyone and everyone, legal or illegal.

And worst of all, they're the ones who hate anyone who's not a white, Christian, heterosexual male who's not a billionaire.

I am a former Republican. I liked Reaganomics to a degree, but for the above reasons, I am now a very active member of the Democratic Party.

 

but theyre not, and to say that ignores both libertarian left ideologies [even left wing market ideas] and right wing ideologies, such as fascism, that want a state controlled economy

the left wing is the people controlling the economy, not the state [in fact id say the state is the opposite of that goal]

 

Conservatives by name are afraid of change of any kind. They would rather leave a burnt out light bulb in and complain about it for votes. As you can see, I'm pretty anti GOP. It's probably because of all the Evangelicals in the party's far right.

 

Well, that depends on whether you're on the libertarian left or the authoritarian left, of course; the libertarian left want an economy which is completely out of government control but at the same time not at the mercy of bloodthirsty corportations so that they are run solely for the good of the people. I don't see Labour actively championing this. Yes, they may be fighting against the strivers and scroungers mentality, and yes they may be congratulating the Tories on gay equality, but are they actively taking on bankers, for example? They're moaning about them, but they did nothing under Blair and Brown to re-regulate the City bankers who played Russian Roulette with our money after Thatcher and Major deregulated The City of London. What did they do about Amazon when they knew they set up their headquarters in Luxembourg as a tax dodge in 2007? Nothing, they did nothing to protect the interests of the people who are really affected by these practices. They're riding the populist wave - if you look at the Political Compass, they sit in the top right quadrant, the authoritarian right, pretty close to the Tories. If you want an actual leftist party, read the Greens manifesto. The Labour Party knew they would get nowhere with a predominantly Conservative England (bar the northern cities) if they didn't move right after the Thatcher years.

(For the record, I'm affiliated with none of the parties above, so this is just me bashing everyone)

 

Because that's a natural extension of being evil.

 

In the US it's because of the religious revolution that destroyed the libertarian aspect of the former Republican Party combined with the fact that Nixon figured out appealing to people who have those views made the entire southern half of the country unloseable in an election. It started with racism but homophobia works better these days.

 

i agree w/ all of this, even though i dunno what it has to w/ what i was saying

but yeah fuck labour & their faux-'leftism'

 

What were you referring to? I think you said something like 'but they're not' and I could have understood that to mean about three different things

 

ohh i was just talking about whether or not left wing means state control haha

 

Are you a mind reader by any chance?

 

hahahaha, sorry for the extended rant then :eusa_doh: