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MeskElil · 12th May 2008, 06:47 PM

I was just going to my theology class today (at a Catholic school, with the plaid pleated skirts...ugh, I hate those skirts) and my teacher brought up something very interesting about homosexuality:

When the Bible was written, they didn't have today's science. They believed that the man carried the entire fertilized egg, and that placing it in a woman's body began to make it grow. SO the reason they opposed homosexuality was because they thought that the man was wasting lives...literally.
ALSO...
The Old Testament of the Bible only condemns sexuality among men, not women (and this is because of this fact...the woman had nothing to do with reproduction except housing the baby, according to them.)
And in the New Testament? Paul was just going off what he was taught. And that was still before modern sciences.
So since that's not true...
If the Bible was written today, it wouldn't be condemning homosexuality.

Interesting thought, huh?

I just wanted to bring that up in case anyone is really freaked about the Bible

Hope it helped someone!

simon · 12th May 2008, 06:57 PM

i found out a while ago from somewhere that the bible says more bad things about heterosexuals then it has about homosexuals.

anyway what you said makes a lot of sense. i never thought of that before but it helps me think of something better then what was on my mind.

thank you for that.

jroakwood · 12th May 2008, 07:04 PM

^well. when you think about it. heteros outnumber us, so that would be true.

and thank you for that interesting piece of information.
(im not freaked out by the bible, but it could be helpful for others who are.)

12th May 2008, 07:06 PM

That was really informative. Thank you for sharing that, it could help a lot.

Alexander · 12th May 2008, 07:23 PM

Quote:

i found out a while ago from somewhere that the bible says more bad things about heterosexuals then it has about homosexuals.

the ratio is 60:1.

sdc91 · 12th May 2008, 07:53 PM

Whoa, I didn't know that. Ow, males carrying the entire egg, lol.

LOVEjames · 12th May 2008, 11:14 PM

Dude, that's insane. Your Catholic School is pretty nice since it's not all "KILL TEH FAGULAS." and stuff.

pirateninja · 13th May 2008, 02:39 AM

I also heard that there was no word for homosexuality in the bible, that they use "men lying with men as they do a woman". They didn't consider it as a sexuality, but merely as heterosexuals raping other men for simply lustful acts.

But yes, thank you for sharing!

Psychedelic Bookmarks · 13th May 2008, 07:11 AM

In the days of the old testament they had super rigid gender roles. The whole of society was based on people "playing their part" in society. There was absolutely no space for men or women to explore their own identity, they just had to play the part they were assigned, or society would fall apart.

Homosexuality among men was a big challenge to this rigid structure and could have undermined the whole system. So it had to brutally suppressed.

Homosexuality among women was unlikely because women were so oppressed and would never have had the freedom to even imagine it. So it wasn't seen fit to even mention it, lest it put the thought in women's minds.

13th May 2008, 12:20 PM

wow cool fact.
thanks!!

12th May 2008, 06:47 PM	#1
MeskElil ♥♥EC's Resident Hippie Child♥♥ Full Member Gender: Tomboy Orientation: Questioning...still... Out Status: 2 great guys who are helping me through everything Location: Southern California Age: 20 Posts: 1,038 Join Date: Apr 2008	Interesting Religious View... I was just going to my theology class today (at a Catholic school, with the plaid pleated skirts...ugh, I hate those skirts) and my teacher brought up something very interesting about homosexuality: When the Bible was written, they didn't have today's science. They believed that the man carried the entire fertilized egg, and that placing it in a woman's body began to make it grow. SO the reason they opposed homosexuality was because they thought that the man was wasting lives...literally. ALSO... The Old Testament of the Bible only condemns sexuality among men, not women (and this is because of this fact...the woman had nothing to do with reproduction except housing the baby, according to them.) And in the New Testament? Paul was just going off what he was taught. And that was still before modern sciences. So since that's not true... If the Bible was written today, it wouldn't be condemning homosexuality. Interesting thought, huh? I just wanted to bring that up in case anyone is really freaked about the Bible Hope it helped someone! __________________ Call me Mesk

12th May 2008, 06:57 PM	#2
simon Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: paraparaumu, new zealand Age: 22 Posts: 192 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: Interesting Religious View... i found out a while ago from somewhere that the bible says more bad things about heterosexuals then it has about homosexuals. anyway what you said makes a lot of sense. i never thought of that before but it helps me think of something better then what was on my mind. thank you for that.

12th May 2008, 07:04 PM	#3
jroakwood You're My Indian Summer. Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Minnesota Age: 21 Posts: 671 Join Date: Apr 2007	Re: Interesting Religious View... ^well. when you think about it. heteros outnumber us, so that would be true. and thank you for that interesting piece of information. (im not freaked out by the bible, but it could be helpful for others who are.) __________________ "EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PRO LOVE." -BRITNEY SPEARS

12th May 2008, 07:06 PM	#4
Midnight Angel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Interesting Religious View... That was really informative. Thank you for sharing that, it could help a lot.

12th May 2008, 07:53 PM	#6
sdc91 Coop d'état Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Berlin, Germany Age: 21 Posts: 1,607 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: Interesting Religious View... Whoa, I didn't know that. Ow, males carrying the entire egg, lol. __________________

12th May 2008, 11:14 PM	#7
LOVEjames \o/ Love! Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: 4.9 Out Status: Pretty out Location: Seattle, WA Age: 21 Posts: 1,075 Join Date: Apr 2008	Re: Interesting Religious View... Dude, that's insane. Your Catholic School is pretty nice since it's not all "KILL TEH FAGULAS." and stuff. __________________ La la la la la.

13th May 2008, 02:39 AM	#8
pirateninja EC's Sailor Uranus Full Member Gender: Biologically Female Orientation: Heterosexually Challenged Out Status: Most people Location: Bath, England Age: 21 Posts: 5,853 Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: Interesting Religious View... I also heard that there was no word for homosexuality in the bible, that they use "men lying with men as they do a woman". They didn't consider it as a sexuality, but merely as heterosexuals raping other men for simply lustful acts. But yes, thank you for sharing! __________________ Holly the Pirateninja Ars Longa, Vita Brevis.

13th May 2008, 07:11 AM	#9
Psychedelic Bookmarks Helena Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Close family and quite a few friends Location: UK Age: 18 Posts: 2,195 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: Interesting Religious View... In the days of the old testament they had super rigid gender roles. The whole of society was based on people "playing their part" in society. There was absolutely no space for men or women to explore their own identity, they just had to play the part they were assigned, or society would fall apart. Homosexuality among men was a big challenge to this rigid structure and could have undermined the whole system. So it had to brutally suppressed. Homosexuality among women was unlikely because women were so oppressed and would never have had the freedom to even imagine it. So it wasn't seen fit to even mention it, lest it put the thought in women's minds. __________________ "I refuse to recognize the terms hetero-, bi-, and homo-sexual. Everybody has exactly the same sexual needs. People are just sexual, the prefix is immaterial." (Morissey)

13th May 2008, 12:20 PM	#10
Leigh Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Interesting Religious View... wow cool fact. thanks!!

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