[Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] - Empty Closets - A safe online community for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered people coming out

InaRut · 30th May 2008, 01:08 PM

So recently a little scandal has happened in our (and by our I mean my) lovely countries parliment. And the news has been all over it like flies to a bug zapper. New speculations and beliefs are reported everyday all over Canadian news net works and it makes me wonder what's worse the fact that Bernier left confidential documents in his ex girlfriends house or what the media has done to this story.

For example, according to the news, CSIS (our version of MI6- James Bond reference) might have involvement in this story. And the ex-girlfriend may or may not have given some of this UBER top secret confidential intelligence to the hells angels because she use to date a biker... HELLS ANGELS guys!

Really, it's quite funny. Apparently now other countries are embarrased at Canada because of the actions of Bernier. Canada was even on the front page of some Roman town's newspaper? WOW! That must mean like Canada and Bernier are being talked about all over the globe. Right guys?

So let me ask you, the people of EC, Who has heard about the Bernier affair? I assume most Canadians would know about it because you can't turn on a TV in this country and not hear some new speculation they have conjured. But what about some of you who are outside Canadian Borders?
Could the media be stretching the truth? I find that hard to believe.

Anyways, before I make myself sound somewhat naive: It's not like I'm saying that what happened isn't a bad thing. And I see reason for their to be caution. I respect the fact that after this came up, Bernier resigned. What I am saying is that the news is going a little to far with what they know...and what they "believe."

Beebo · 30th May 2008, 03:11 PM

I think canada is important...

24601 · 30th May 2008, 04:07 PM

I'm fairly up to date on current events, but I look more on the U.S. side of things, truth be told. So, no, I haven't heard about it. That doesn't mean Canada isn't important, though - you guys have the potential to be the world's next oil giant, what with all that oil in Alberta and all. Achieve that status, and half the world will kowtow to Canada.

Oh, and I just did a search on the NYTimes website (which is what I generally read), and there was only one really short article about it. So, to directly answer your question, I guess the Canadian media is blowing its global significance up a bit.

Bryan90 · 30th May 2008, 04:30 PM

I am paying 12,000 dollars for a semester in university, so Canada better be important...

Mirko · 30th May 2008, 04:33 PM

It is a bit of an embarrassment. But it is nothing really out of the ordinary. If you compare this to other scandals or 'affairs' in other countries in particular Italy, this one pales in comparison.

When it comes to the media stretching the truth, absolutely. The media has a talent for exaggerating facts and the course of events. After all this is what keeps people tuning into the news and keeps up the ratings. In a week or so this is going to be ancient history or as soon as the media finds another juicy story to hang on to for a few days. From what I have seen so far on CBC and CTV and read online it is all a bit hyped up and made into a huge story. Is it interesting, yeah to some extent. But it always good also to read between the lines.

Well at least it puts Canada on the map (even though the story is a bit embarrassing)!

nanoman · 30th May 2008, 04:59 PM

It's such a shame-- He's such a handsome man.

**Lexington** · 30th May 2008, 05:06 PM

It's hellaciously important to the people who live there. And isn't that enough?

Lex

SlickyPants · 31st May 2008, 11:21 AM

I'm a little embarrassed to admit it but I did not hear about this. I don't really watch TV and I guess I somehow managed to avoid this topic coming up in conversations with people.

Andrew · 31st May 2008, 01:16 PM

I havent heard about it either.. Dont worry ^^

dictionary · 31st May 2008, 05:54 PM

Canada Ey?

havent herd of it.. what is it?

InaRut · 1st Jun 2008, 10:25 AM

Hahaha I wasn't saying Canada wasn't important guys. I'm just saying Canada isn't so important in other countries as the media tried to get us to believe. That no one in the other countries really knew about hay-wire ministers and lost (the game) NATO briefs.

Steve · 1st Jun 2008, 10:32 AM

canada has a lot of snow it blanaces the lots of sand and desert here so yea its important

InaRut · 1st Jun 2008, 10:55 AM

*Glares at Rdude*

Well there isn't any snow right now in Ontario thank you very much...
Just crappy weather (southern Ontario anyways)

panda · 1st Jun 2008, 12:46 PM

Some of the lack of interest might be that this group of politicians is really boring.
In Pierre Trudeau's day Canada was known around the world.Margaret Trudeau hanging with the Rolling Stones.
Even Chretien with his mangled English had more star power that anyone current.
What Canada needs is a charismatic leader who can attract world wide attention.

InaRut · 1st Jun 2008, 02:47 PM

Such as me...

jazzrawr · 1st Jun 2008, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rdude

canada has a lot of snow it blanaces the lots of sand and desert here so yea its important

*glares*

its 20 degrees celcius today in southern Ontario, thank you very much!
*grumble grumble* snow all year round...pfft...*grumble grumble*

InaRut · 1st Jun 2008, 02:51 PM

*Grumbles along with JazzRawr as he gets out his imaginary snow shovel that shovels imaginary snow*

Bryan90 · 1st Jun 2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panda

Some of the lack of interest might be that this group of politicians is really boring.
In Pierre Trudeau's day Canada was known around the world.Margaret Trudeau hanging with the Rolling Stones.
Even Chretien with his mangled English had more star power that anyone current.
What Canada needs is a charismatic leader who can attract world wide attention.

I think it's more of the country than that of the leader... Apparently the only countries whose leaders often become the centre of attention are: America (urgh.. duh..), Russia, and UK.

We'll see, one day perhaps when America goes into a deep DEPRESSION, while the world continues to grow, one day when the saying "when America sneezes, the world catches cold" doesn't hold, one day when people start looking north towards the very diverse and welcoming Canada, and one day when Canada has a number of witty leaders (Phil?), people would start noticing us..

InaRut · 1st Jun 2008, 02:56 PM

Woo! Maybe my older brother would do a better job though. He's more pollitical :P

VOTE MELCHERS!!! For...Liberal?

C'mon if you vote conservative we'll be stuck with another Harper. DO YOU WANT ANOTHER HARPER?

panda · 1st Jun 2008, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InaRut

Such as me...

PHIL W. HEAD OF THE WALRUS PARTY

He's got my vote!!

:good luck:

30th May 2008, 01:08 PM	#1
InaRut EC's Nu-Disco Walrus Full Member Gender: IRL Yaoi Character Orientation: (｡◕‿◕。) Out Status: ㅎ_ㅎ Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 7,111 Join Date: Oct 2007	[Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] So recently a little scandal has happened in our (and by our I mean my) lovely countries parliment. And the news has been all over it like flies to a bug zapper. New speculations and beliefs are reported everyday all over Canadian news net works and it makes me wonder what's worse the fact that Bernier left confidential documents in his ex girlfriends house or what the media has done to this story. For example, according to the news, CSIS (our version of MI6- James Bond reference) might have involvement in this story. And the ex-girlfriend may or may not have given some of this UBER top secret confidential intelligence to the hells angels because she use to date a biker... HELLS ANGELS guys! Really, it's quite funny. Apparently now other countries are embarrased at Canada because of the actions of Bernier. Canada was even on the front page of some Roman town's newspaper? WOW! That must mean like Canada and Bernier are being talked about all over the globe. Right guys? So let me ask you, the people of EC, Who has heard about the Bernier affair? I assume most Canadians would know about it because you can't turn on a TV in this country and not hear some new speculation they have conjured. But what about some of you who are outside Canadian Borders? Could the media be stretching the truth? I find that hard to believe. Anyways, before I make myself sound somewhat naive: It's not like I'm saying that what happened isn't a bad thing. And I see reason for their to be caution. I respect the fact that after this came up, Bernier resigned. What I am saying is that the news is going a little to far with what they know...and what they "believe."

30th May 2008, 03:11 PM	#2
Beebo the cat what has facial hair. Full Member Gender: MAN Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Toronto Age: 23 Posts: 893 Join Date: Feb 2008	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] I think canada is important... __________________ New Song up. a rough version of "The Ghost of Adam".(I will be adding more.)

30th May 2008, 04:07 PM	#3
24601 Cyborg Overlord Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Not sure (still trying to figure it out) Out Status: Not Hiding Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Age: 21 Posts: 1,092 Join Date: Jun 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] I'm fairly up to date on current events, but I look more on the U.S. side of things, truth be told. So, no, I haven't heard about it. That doesn't mean Canada isn't important, though - you guys have the potential to be the world's next oil giant, what with all that oil in Alberta and all. Achieve that status, and half the world will kowtow to Canada. Oh, and I just did a search on the NYTimes website (which is what I generally read), and there was only one really short article about it. So, to directly answer your question, I guess the Canadian media is blowing its global significance up a bit. __________________ Haikus are easy But sometimes they don't make sense Refrigerator Last edited by 24601; 30th May 2008 at 04:10 PM..

30th May 2008, 04:30 PM	#4
Bryan90 EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 668 Join Date: Nov 2006	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] I am paying 12,000 dollars for a semester in university, so Canada better be important...

30th May 2008, 04:33 PM	#5
Mirko Molitva Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out and about Location: British Columbia, Canada Age: 35 Posts: 10,052 Join Date: Apr 2008	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] It is a bit of an embarrassment. But it is nothing really out of the ordinary. If you compare this to other scandals or 'affairs' in other countries in particular Italy, this one pales in comparison. When it comes to the media stretching the truth, absolutely. The media has a talent for exaggerating facts and the course of events. After all this is what keeps people tuning into the news and keeps up the ratings. In a week or so this is going to be ancient history or as soon as the media finds another juicy story to hang on to for a few days. From what I have seen so far on CBC and CTV and read online it is all a bit hyped up and made into a huge story. Is it interesting, yeah to some extent. But it always good also to read between the lines. Well at least it puts Canada on the map (even though the story is a bit embarrassing)! __________________ ~ Let Go of Who You Think You're Supposed to Be and Embrace Who You Are ~

30th May 2008, 04:59 PM	#6
nanoman Member Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Quebec, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 70 Join Date: Aug 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] It's such a shame-- He's such a handsome man.

30th May 2008, 05:06 PM	#7
Lexington The gay gargoyle EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Colorado Age: 42 Posts: 12,370 Join Date: Dec 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] It's hellaciously important to the people who live there. And isn't that enough? Lex

31st May 2008, 11:21 AM	#8
SlickyPants EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Age: 26 Posts: 541 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] I'm a little embarrassed to admit it but I did not hear about this. I don't really watch TV and I guess I somehow managed to avoid this topic coming up in conversations with people.

31st May 2008, 01:16 PM	#9
Andrew hugeee. Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Illinois Posts: 550 Join Date: May 2008	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] I havent heard about it either.. Dont worry ^^

31st May 2008, 05:54 PM	#10
dictionary EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Melbourne Age: 19 Posts: 459 Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] Canada Ey? havent herd of it.. what is it?

1st Jun 2008, 10:25 AM	#11
InaRut EC's Nu-Disco Walrus Full Member Gender: IRL Yaoi Character Orientation: (｡◕‿◕。) Out Status: ㅎ_ㅎ Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 7,111 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] Hahaha I wasn't saying Canada wasn't important guys. I'm just saying Canada isn't so important in other countries as the media tried to get us to believe. That no one in the other countries really knew about hay-wire ministers and lost (the game) NATO briefs.

1st Jun 2008, 10:32 AM	#12
Steve EC's Soldier! Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Sargeant sexual Out Status: whoever asks Location: Born in australia, but now living some where else Age: 21 Posts: 2,273 Join Date: May 2008	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] canada has a lot of snow it blanaces the lots of sand and desert here so yea its important

1st Jun 2008, 10:55 AM	#13
InaRut EC's Nu-Disco Walrus Full Member Gender: IRL Yaoi Character Orientation: (｡◕‿◕。) Out Status: ㅎ_ㅎ Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 7,111 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] Glares at Rdude Well there isn't any snow right now in Ontario thank you very much... Just crappy weather (southern Ontario anyways)

1st Jun 2008, 12:46 PM	#14
panda EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: A few people Location: Toronto,Canada Age: 67 Posts: 4,653 Join Date: Aug 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] Some of the lack of interest might be that this group of politicians is really boring. In Pierre Trudeau's day Canada was known around the world.Margaret Trudeau hanging with the Rolling Stones. Even Chretien with his mangled English had more star power that anyone current. What Canada needs is a charismatic leader who can attract world wide attention.

1st Jun 2008, 02:47 PM	#15
InaRut EC's Nu-Disco Walrus Full Member Gender: IRL Yaoi Character Orientation: (｡◕‿◕。) Out Status: ㅎ_ㅎ Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 7,111 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] Such as me...

1st Jun 2008, 02:51 PM	#17
InaRut EC's Nu-Disco Walrus Full Member Gender: IRL Yaoi Character Orientation: (｡◕‿◕。) Out Status: ㅎ_ㅎ Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 7,111 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] Grumbles along with JazzRawr as he gets out his imaginary snow shovel that shovels imaginary snow

1st Jun 2008, 02:56 PM	#19
InaRut EC's Nu-Disco Walrus Full Member Gender: IRL Yaoi Character Orientation: (｡◕‿◕。) Out Status: ㅎ_ㅎ Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 7,111 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: [Just Curious] Is Canada really that important? [Bernier Affair] Woo! Maybe my older brother would do a better job though. He's more pollitical :P VOTE MELCHERS!!! For...Liberal? C'mon if you vote conservative we'll be stuck with another Harper. DO YOU WANT ANOTHER HARPER?