Being Gay and Christian

I'm not touching this one, but to everybody else who comments on this one, KEEP IT CIVIL, PEOPLE. We don't need yet another religion thread to go to hell after a screaming match.

 

The only thing I can say is that it can be done. There are parts of the Christian community that are affirming. I once heard a pastor say "God made you the way you were supposed to be," referring to sexuality.

Conversion therapy does NOT work. That's why Exodus (Christian) folded within the recent past.

 

I am a atheist but I'm not going to get anti-religious because that would be unhelpful. Ask yourself a question "why would god make me gay if he didn't want me to be?". Be yourself because thats the only person worth being. Jesus teaches that no one gets to heaven except though him. Jesus doesn't mention homosexuality. Which side would Jesus be on, gay people wanting to be free to love who ever they want or people who hate gay people because of who they are. Jesus taught love not hate. I doubt he cares whether you love men or women. Forget about some old tesament verse it's about the overall message of Jesus.

 

Some people reconcile the two by analysing the Bible and saying that it is not actually against same-sex relationships as we now understand them. If you wish, I can point you to a few items written by such people. Some people reconcile the two by saying that the Bible is against same-sex relationships but that does not apply today and loving God and your partner is more important. Some people go for a mix of the two, or something else entirely (though I wouldn't know what).

 

Actually... homosexuality is not a sin. What IS, however, is lusting after someone. So, really, instead of accepting being gay, homophobes actually make us COMMIT the sin they're so scared of. Rather ironic, I think.

 

I afraid there is no I think about it. Science has shown that being gay is biological. Twins for example,even when they were bought up in different enviroments were more likely to be gay if the other was gay. That tells you two things: firstly that it's biological and second as that is true all over the world that it's was selected for. But thats another story.

 

Christianity is based on two, only two, things: Love thy neighbor as thy loves thouself and believe in Jesus Christ.
So what does it matter what gender you love? Love is love, and there is nothing wrong with love in any form towards anyone. Loving can't be a sin. I don't think God hates your homosexuality: it's what makes you who you are. It's what makes you love, and that is all that matters.

 

Stop jumping through mental hoops and drop the religion. You feel so much happier.



Good luck.

 

Ok, Here's what I believe as a gay Christian: (hope it helps a bit)
Firstly God is love and any pure love could never be a sin! God made us who we are and he loves us for it.
Secondly I believe in any question of faith the answer should be supported by the bible and there is nowhere that it in so many words state that homosexuality is wrong. (as in the intention of the passage was to stop Christians from being gay) Faith and culture have gotten so intertwined that it is not always easy to see where the one stops and the other starts. And quoting random one liners out of context is not proof!
Also check out this youtube video by Matthew Vimes (it help me a lot!!) The Gay Debate: The Bible and Homosexuality
You don't have to ever change yourself, just the way you think. Be true to yourself and goodluck! Hope you can find peace.

 

You skipped over the part about God causing a genocidal flood. But aside from that, yeah, love.

 

I'm a Christian.
and I believe that God made us all in our own special ways. If he made us like this, then how can it be a sin? And furthermore, God loves everyone equally and I personally believe that he isnt homophobic nor does he believe that homosexuality is a sin.
Also I dont recall Jesus ever mentioning homosexuals and calling them out?

 

Leviticus 18:22. "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."


Leviticus 18:22 KJV - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as - Bible Gateway

 

And yet that was in the Old Testament which was the Old Covenant to God's people. In the New Testament, Jesus brought the New Convenant, this was a New commandment which was : A new commandment, I give unto you that you love one another as I have loved you.

 

Is that how you sleep at night? Tell yourself that an entire half of your OWN religious book, doesn't count?

lolokay

 

Not at all . I just follow most of the teachings of Jesus. If Christians followed some of the Old Testaments word for word then we wouldn't be eating shell fish, pig and other things like that. Furthermore, I do not wish to get into a raging battle about my Christian belief system etc. I am just trying to help the thread starter with my opinion and views (as a Christian) on this whole "homosexuality is a sin" issue.

 

Theres a great documentary out there called "Fish Out of Water" that does an amazing job of reconciling homosexuality and biblical verses. I will attempt to paraphrase some of the points raised in there, but it's a great watch with awesome information in it.

Firstly, there are only 6 verses in the entire bible that directly mention any kind of same-sex relationship. 3 of those were written by Paul who had a very personal stake in what he was writing, so it can be assumed that at least one of those verses that Paul wrote were because he had a personal problem with homosexuality, not any kind of divine mandate.

Apart from that, it is important to know where the word "abomination" comes from in the King James bible:

While this does indicate that the bible doesn't, necessarily, approve of homosexuality, it also shows that it's not outright forbidden (as many people like to claim).

Plus I wouldn't put too much stock into the laws of Leviticus (being that they are the most quoted) unless you are trying to live a very strict and pious life. In that case, you should should stop shaving (Lev 19:27), and wear only single-fabric clothes (Lev 19:19) or even change a babies diaper (Lev 18:6). I'm not trying to be facetious here, but my point is that if you don't sweat the other laws in Leviticus then why worry about 20:13 and 19:16-24?

That's all I've got for now.

 

I'm sorry to hear. Unfortunately you're sinning right now.

Do Not Ignore Old Testament