Empty Closets Coming Out Resources and a Safe Place to Chat
Welcome Forum Chat Room Resources News Members

Go Back   Empty Closets - A safe online community for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered people coming out > General Chat > Chit Chat

Chit Chat General discussion of topics of interest to LGBT people of all ages.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 06:34 PM   #1
Down-Pour
Full Member
 
crimsonarcher's Avatar
 

Gender: Male
Orientation: Gay
Out Status: ...
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,051
Join Date: Apr 2007


Default Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Measure Would Overturn California Supreme Court Ruling!!

(from Yahoo.com news)


SAN FRANCISCO -- "The secretary of state said an initiative that would overturn a recent California Supreme Court ruling and outlaw gay marriage in the state has qualified for the November ballot.

Debra Bowen said a random check of signatures submitted by the measure's sponsors showed that they had gathered enough for it to be put to voters.

The measure would amend the state constitution to define marriage as a union "between a man and a woman."

If the measure is approved by a majority of voters on Nov. 4, it would overturn the recent high court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage in the state.

California public health officials already have amended marriage license applications and told local officials to start issuing them to same-sex couples on June 17."

Oh no, it can't be banned by an amendment!
__________________
Simple & Clean.
crimsonarcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 06:59 PM   #2
Notoriously Homosexual
Full Member
 
Nodnarb's Avatar
 

Gender: Male
Orientation: Gay
Out Status: Most people
Location: Ames, Iowa
Age: 20
Posts: 3,875
Join Date: Oct 2007


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

The last poll I saw had only 40% of California voters supporting the amendment. While I don't put a lot of faith in polls, I do think that it is a good sign.
__________________
Better to be hated for who you are, than be loved for who you're not.
Nodnarb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:14 PM   #3
PFLAG Mom
Community Liaison
 
beckyg's Avatar
 

Gender: Female
Orientation: Straight
Out Status: Out to everyone/Yes, parents come out too!
Location: Middle of Oregon
Age: 50
Posts: 7,572
Join Date: Mar 2007


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Yeah, I have faith that such an amendment won't pass in California.
__________________
"When we're free to love anyone we choose,
When this worlds big enough for all different views,
When we're all free to worship from our own kind of pew,
Then we shall be free" ~ Garth Brooks
beckyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 08:54 PM   #4
Down-Pour
Full Member
 
crimsonarcher's Avatar
 

Gender: Male
Orientation: Gay
Out Status: ...
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,051
Join Date: Apr 2007


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

let's just hope for the best!
__________________
Simple & Clean.
crimsonarcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 08:56 PM   #5
Extreme Heat Warning!
Full Member
 
Brett's Avatar
 

Gender: I am a MAN! ROWR!! =^_^=
Orientation: Homo-capable
Out Status: Out enough
Location: Weatherford, TX
Age: 19
Posts: 2,200
Join Date: Jan 2008


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

If only I could vote.....and lived in California........

I'm gonna be watchin the news for this one, but I don't think that it's gonna pass.........
__________________
Marching band: It's a religion
Trip....trip....ip on red wine!
Lady Gaga FTW! XD
Brett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 09:39 PM   #6
Tim
Psycho Glitter B*tch
Full Member
 
Tim's Avatar
 

Gender: Guy, Unless Life Was a Horrible April Fools Joke.
Orientation: Gay/Asexual/Confusing to Explain
Out Status: Armed and Fabulous! XD
Location: California
Age: 23
Posts: 7,379
Join Date: Mar 2008


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

There was much more of a YES! response to the ban being lifted as opposed to the NO!s. I have faith it will pass. I'm quite tempted to go out and vote :3
__________________
Rawr! :3 ~The Stalker User Known As Tim~ Rawr! :3
EC's Sailor Star Healer, Oxymoron and All.
Star Sensitive Inferno! Sailor Starlight, Stage On!

[Vic] 7:49 pm: I keep my pants off in public.
Tim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 09:51 PM   #7
Coop d'état
Full Member
 
sdc91's Avatar
 
Gender: Male
Orientation: Gay
Out Status: Out to everyone
Location: Berlin, Germany
Age: 21
Posts: 1,607
Join Date: Nov 2007


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Don't get so comfy there.

Old people are more likely to be against it, and they are the ones who vote. Younger people who would be sympathetic don't vote as much (although I'm not sure how that will turn out in this election since it's so popular).

If you live in CA and you can vote, VOTE!!
__________________
sdc91 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 10:00 PM   #8
Tim
Psycho Glitter B*tch
Full Member
 
Tim's Avatar
 

Gender: Guy, Unless Life Was a Horrible April Fools Joke.
Orientation: Gay/Asexual/Confusing to Explain
Out Status: Armed and Fabulous! XD
Location: California
Age: 23
Posts: 7,379
Join Date: Mar 2008


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by sdc91 View Post
Don't get so comfy there.

Old people are more likely to be against it, and they are the ones who vote. Younger people who would be sympathetic don't vote as much (although I'm not sure how that will turn out in this election since it's so popular).

If you live in CA and you can vote, VOTE!!
But... then I'd have to register... and be put up for the queue for jury duty <.< >.>
__________________
Rawr! :3 ~The Stalker User Known As Tim~ Rawr! :3
EC's Sailor Star Healer, Oxymoron and All.
Star Sensitive Inferno! Sailor Starlight, Stage On!

[Vic] 7:49 pm: I keep my pants off in public.
Tim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 10:51 PM   #9
Sam
"define normal"
Full Member
 
Sam's Avatar
 

Gender: Female
Orientation: Lesbian
Out Status: out to most, ask and I'll tell
Location: Oklahoma
Age: 25
Posts: 1,206
Join Date: Aug 2006


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Why can't people just let us be happy? Is it so wrong for us to want equal rights? I don't want to be treated like a 2nd class citizen my whole life! How is our right to marry going to affect straight peoples life? Its not! What if the shoe were on the other foot and straight people weren't allowed to get married. Maybe marriage should be banned completely for a few years and then maybe they will see how we feel!

Ok I'm done with my rant! I don't live in California but it seems like every time something good like this happens homophobic assholes have to screw it up!
__________________
Love knows no gender, it has no boundaries, it is blind yet everyday I wake up to a world of hate and little acceptance, it's sad that I'm hated not for who I am but for who I love~ me (Sam)
Sam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 2nd Jun 2008, 11:19 PM   #10
Cheers!
Full Member
 
TriBi's Avatar
 
Gender: Male
Orientation: Bisexual
Location: DownUnder
Posts: 3,893
Join Date: Dec 2004


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

I have no doubt that a lot of people will disagree with me - but this is precisely why I think that the Gay community (generally - it may vary according to country/location) would be better served by initially lobbying for 'Civil Unions' rather than 'Gay marriage'.

Reason being that a 'Civil Union' would convey the same equality of rights for gay couples - but it circumvents the BIG sticking point for so many straight people that "marriage is between a man and a woman". I just feel it would, in so many places, be so much easier to achieve than anything which combines the words 'gay' and 'marriage'. OK - so a lot of the hard liners won't agree with me - but, let's face it, if it results in equality (in all but description) that much earlier...and the hetero's see that the world doesn't end as a result, it will likely end up being changed in perception (first) and then legally a little later.

Easier to reach a goal by successive steps rather than one big jump.
TriBi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 06:07 AM   #11
PFLAG Mom
Community Liaison
 
beckyg's Avatar
 

Gender: Female
Orientation: Straight
Out Status: Out to everyone/Yes, parents come out too!
Location: Middle of Oregon
Age: 50
Posts: 7,572
Join Date: Mar 2007


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Myzou View Post
There was much more of a YES! response to the ban being lifted as opposed to the NO!s. I have faith it will pass. I'm quite tempted to go out and vote :3

Well if you live in California, then you SHOULD vote!

P.S. I just read your comment about jury duty. Well, yes sometimes voters have to serve on jury duty but I have never done it. I am 46 and have been registered since the age of 18. So, you may or may not get called.
__________________
"When we're free to love anyone we choose,
When this worlds big enough for all different views,
When we're all free to worship from our own kind of pew,
Then we shall be free" ~ Garth Brooks
beckyg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 06:14 AM   #12
EC Addict
Full Member
 
Poring's Avatar
 

Gender: Male
Orientation: Gay
Out Status: Not out at all
Location: Somewhere in Asia :o
Age: 19
Posts: 399
Join Date: May 2008


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by biloved86 View Post
Why can't people just let us be happy? Is it so wrong for us to want equal rights? I don't want to be treated like a 2nd class citizen my whole life! How is our right to marry going to affect straight peoples life? Its not! What if the shoe were on the other foot and straight people weren't allowed to get married. Maybe marriage should be banned completely for a few years and then maybe they will see how we feel!
OMG, thats exactly what they should do! Lets see how they like it if they can't marry the so-called person they 'love'. I really hope this thingy wont pass. Grrr!
__________________
rawr :3
Poring is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 06:15 AM   #13
I Can't Help You Fix Yourself
Full Member
 
Trumpetplyer23's Avatar
 

Gender: Female
Orientation: Garcons et filles
Out Status: Seriously, Everyone knows
Location: O-H-I-O!
Age: 18
Posts: 2,066
Join Date: Feb 2008


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Guys, think about this, every time that there has been an amendment banning something (for example Prohibition), it's overturned by a later amendment. There was an amendment that made it almost impossible for blacks to vote back in the day of the civil rights movement, now everyone who is a citizen of the United States and is over the age of 18 can vote.

Maybe this will cause younger people to vote, I don't know, however, if members of the LGBT community are voting, that adds votes to our favor.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by pirateninja View Post
I'm gonna go build something. With power tools. And put on a flannel shirt. And cut my hair into a mullet. And pierce my eyebrow.

FUCK YEAH POWER TOOLS!
Quote:
Originally Posted by LOVEjames View Post
I want to murder people that use chatspeak.
Good to see I'm not the only one
Trumpetplyer23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 09:17 AM   #14
Down-Pour
Full Member
 
crimsonarcher's Avatar
 

Gender: Male
Orientation: Gay
Out Status: ...
Location: AZ
Posts: 1,051
Join Date: Apr 2007


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Oh, how I wish i could vote.
__________________
Simple & Clean.
crimsonarcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 12:41 PM   #15
Tim
Psycho Glitter B*tch
Full Member
 
Tim's Avatar
 

Gender: Guy, Unless Life Was a Horrible April Fools Joke.
Orientation: Gay/Asexual/Confusing to Explain
Out Status: Armed and Fabulous! XD
Location: California
Age: 23
Posts: 7,379
Join Date: Mar 2008


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Well, I had to go apply for my ID today, and on the back was registration to vote form, so I figured what the heck, and filled it out >.>

So yea XD
__________________
Rawr! :3 ~The Stalker User Known As Tim~ Rawr! :3
EC's Sailor Star Healer, Oxymoron and All.
Star Sensitive Inferno! Sailor Starlight, Stage On!

[Vic] 7:49 pm: I keep my pants off in public.
Tim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 12:55 PM   #16
EC's Sailor Uranus
Full Member
 
pirateninja's Avatar
 

Gender: Biologically Female
Orientation: Heterosexually Challenged
Out Status: Most people
Location: Bath, England
Age: 21
Posts: 5,853
Join Date: Sep 2007


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

I've got everything crossed right now.

Why does everyone feel so threatened by the fact that we want equality? Why does our right to marry someone we love take away from them marrying someone we love?

Still, sometimes we have to settle for a compromise. Black people used to be unable to marry white people, and the idea of that not being called marriage is absurd now. As long as we keep pushing for our rights, I can only hope that it will get better in the future.
__________________
Holly the Pirateninja
Ars Longa, Vita Brevis.

pirateninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 03:46 PM   #17
Quitex
Guest
 
Posts: n/a


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Quote:
I've got everything crossed right now.
You don't, you're still a female!
/bad joke
  Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 03:58 PM   #18
♥♥EC's Resident Hippie Child♥♥
Full Member
 
MeskElil's Avatar
 

Gender: Tomboy
Orientation: Questioning...still...
Out Status: 2 great guys who are helping me through everything
Location: Southern California
Age: 20
Posts: 1,038
Join Date: Apr 2008


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

*hurries to check birth certificate*
damn.
why do i have to be 16? this is something I really care about...god, i wish i could vote...
i certainly hope that it doesn't get banned, especially now that i've finally discovered who i am.
the thing is that people are mad about the supreme court overruling the people, so they may vote in favor of banning even if they don't care about gay marriage...because of the damn "principle of the thing".
i really wish people would just wake up and smell the rainbow.
__________________
Call me Mesk
MeskElil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 04:01 PM   #19
Quitex
Guest
 
Posts: n/a


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Quote:
i really wish people would just wake up and smell the rainbow.
Skittles?
  Reply With Quote
Old 3rd Jun 2008, 04:03 PM   #20
♥♥EC's Resident Hippie Child♥♥
Full Member
 
MeskElil's Avatar
 

Gender: Tomboy
Orientation: Questioning...still...
Out Status: 2 great guys who are helping me through everything
Location: Southern California
Age: 20
Posts: 1,038
Join Date: Apr 2008


Default Re: Gay Marriage Ban Qualifies For Ballot!!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quitex View Post
Quote:
i really wish people would just wake up and smell the rainbow.
Skittles?
no...
__________________
Call me Mesk
MeskElil is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Election tomorrow greg Chit Chat 44 26th Nov 2007 12:13 PM
Why Gay Marriage Is Wrong Monique_Massacre Chit Chat 18 30th Sep 2007 11:26 PM
10 Reasons Why Gay Marriage is Wrong (sarcastic) xxAngelOnFirexx Chit Chat 31 1st Sep 2007 04:18 PM
Gay Marriage in New Jersey =] Prep x Core Chit Chat 6 28th Oct 2006 10:49 PM
Marriageless future LowestVocal017 Chit Chat 11 12th Jul 2006 10:57 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:17 AM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright ©2004 - 2012, Empty Closets. The Empty Closets name and logo are registered trademarks.

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11