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**lostinthought9** · 3rd Jun 2008, 10:22 PM

Ok, from what I understand, the primaries are over!!! BUT, I'm confused...I'm reading (on different sites) that Obama has all the delegates he needs for the nomination...but it also said that Hillary has not resigned as a nominee....so does anyone know what's going on?? I wanna know some facts!!! I really do hope that this isn't the end for Hillary...

LOVEjames · 3rd Jun 2008, 10:25 PM

Obama will be the Democratic nominee, and it's a little too recent for Hilary to have said much of anything at this point. Although I'm pretty sure that in his speech tonight, Obama said that he would welcome Hilary as a running mate.

I love Hilary, but when she didn't actually campaign in a lot of states and only focused on the major ones, she sorta messed up.

Nodnarb · 3rd Jun 2008, 10:32 PM

Obama is the nominee, Hilary just has to decide when she is going to admit defeat.

It'll be interesting to see who Obama takes for VP...

Sam · 3rd Jun 2008, 10:35 PM

Obama got it and I heard that Hilary wants VP

**lostinthought9** · 3rd Jun 2008, 10:39 PM

^^^^i heard that she wants VP too, but can they really get along? and can they be friends, espicially after a heated battle that they just went through??

Sam · 3rd Jun 2008, 10:44 PM

I know I was thinking the same thing^^^ after all the fighting I couldn't believe she wanted VP and I don't know if he wants her for VP either. It seems like they really hate each other and I don't know if they would be able to tolerate each other.

**Gerry** · 4th Jun 2008, 01:45 AM

Obama received the delegates needed to put him over the top to be the presumptive democratic nominee. Hillary did not concede her candidacy and is still in the race for the time being. Obama, much like McCain, doesn't officially become the nominee until the end of August at each party's convention. If Obama really wants to unite the party and attract all voters and win in November, he needs to make Hillary his VP and that seems like it would be a ticket that would be unbeatable. So as of now we'll have to wait and see what happens but Hillary is still in the race and Obama is only the presumptive nominee.

Jeimuzu · 4th Jun 2008, 12:02 PM

I'm glad it looks like Obama has won. I really now want him to take Hillary as the VP, because so many people are now saying "Screw Obama, I'm gonna vote for McCain!" just on principle. If Hillary's Obama's VP, all of Hillary's fans will vote him in.

**Lexington** · 4th Jun 2008, 12:22 PM

I'm not so sure.

I do think if Hillary got the nod, she would have had to take Obama on. But the people who weighed most against Obama were the rural and urban poor. These are people for whom race is still a primary factor. Putting up Hillary as running mate won't mollify most of them, as "their" candidate would still be in "under" the guy they didn't want. These people may, in fact, be unwinnable no matter who Obama takes. In that case, he doesn't have to bother trying to woo them, and can focus elsewhere on a running mate to shore up his vote count.

Lex

3rd Jun 2008, 10:22 PM	#1
lostinthought9 EC's Biggest Xena Fan EC Moderator Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Louisiana Age: 21 Posts: 2,058 Join Date: Jan 2008	who's left standing?? Ok, from what I understand, the primaries are over!!! BUT, I'm confused...I'm reading (on different sites) that Obama has all the delegates he needs for the nomination...but it also said that Hillary has not resigned as a nominee....so does anyone know what's going on?? I wanna know some facts!!! I really do hope that this isn't the end for Hillary... __________________

3rd Jun 2008, 10:25 PM	#2
LOVEjames \o/ Love! Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: 4.9 Out Status: Pretty out Location: Seattle, WA Age: 21 Posts: 1,075 Join Date: Apr 2008	Re: who's left standing?? Obama will be the Democratic nominee, and it's a little too recent for Hilary to have said much of anything at this point. Although I'm pretty sure that in his speech tonight, Obama said that he would welcome Hilary as a running mate. I love Hilary, but when she didn't actually campaign in a lot of states and only focused on the major ones, she sorta messed up. __________________ La la la la la.

3rd Jun 2008, 10:32 PM	#3
Nodnarb Notoriously Homosexual Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Most people Location: Ames, Iowa Age: 20 Posts: 3,875 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: who's left standing?? Obama is the nominee, Hilary just has to decide when she is going to admit defeat. It'll be interesting to see who Obama takes for VP... __________________ Better to be hated for who you are, than be loved for who you're not.

3rd Jun 2008, 10:35 PM	#4
Sam "define normal" Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: out to most, ask and I'll tell Location: Oklahoma Age: 25 Posts: 1,206 Join Date: Aug 2006	Re: who's left standing?? Obama got it and I heard that Hilary wants VP __________________ Love knows no gender, it has no boundaries, it is blind yet everyday I wake up to a world of hate and little acceptance, it's sad that I'm hated not for who I am but for who I love~ me (Sam)

3rd Jun 2008, 10:39 PM	#5
lostinthought9 EC's Biggest Xena Fan EC Moderator Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Louisiana Age: 21 Posts: 2,058 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: who's left standing?? ^^^^i heard that she wants VP too, but can they really get along? and can they be friends, espicially after a heated battle that they just went through?? __________________

3rd Jun 2008, 10:44 PM	#6
Sam "define normal" Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: out to most, ask and I'll tell Location: Oklahoma Age: 25 Posts: 1,206 Join Date: Aug 2006	Re: who's left standing?? I know I was thinking the same thing^^^ after all the fighting I couldn't believe she wanted VP and I don't know if he wants her for VP either. It seems like they really hate each other and I don't know if they would be able to tolerate each other. __________________ Love knows no gender, it has no boundaries, it is blind yet everyday I wake up to a world of hate and little acceptance, it's sad that I'm hated not for who I am but for who I love~ me (Sam)

4th Jun 2008, 01:45 AM	#7
Gerry We're all a little mad! EC Moderator Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Las Vegas Age: 24 Posts: 5,537 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: who's left standing?? Obama received the delegates needed to put him over the top to be the presumptive democratic nominee. Hillary did not concede her candidacy and is still in the race for the time being. Obama, much like McCain, doesn't officially become the nominee until the end of August at each party's convention. If Obama really wants to unite the party and attract all voters and win in November, he needs to make Hillary his VP and that seems like it would be a ticket that would be unbeatable. So as of now we'll have to wait and see what happens but Hillary is still in the race and Obama is only the presumptive nominee. __________________ "Everybody's journey is individual. If you fall in love with a boy, you fall in love with a boy. The fact that many Americans consider it a disease says more about them than it does about homosexuality".-James Baldwin

4th Jun 2008, 12:02 PM	#8
Jeimuzu Wreck Cognition Full Member Gender: Heterogametic Orientation: Rawr. Out Status: 99% out. Location: Middlesbrough Age: 23 Posts: 1,744 Join Date: Aug 2007	Re: who's left standing?? I'm glad it looks like Obama has won. I really now want him to take Hillary as the VP, because so many people are now saying "Screw Obama, I'm gonna vote for McCain!" just on principle. If Hillary's Obama's VP, all of Hillary's fans will vote him in. __________________

4th Jun 2008, 12:22 PM	#9
Lexington The gay gargoyle EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Colorado Age: 42 Posts: 12,370 Join Date: Dec 2007	Re: who's left standing?? I'm not so sure. I do think if Hillary got the nod, she would have had to take Obama on. But the people who weighed most against Obama were the rural and urban poor. These are people for whom race is still a primary factor. Putting up Hillary as running mate won't mollify most of them, as "their" candidate would still be in "under" the guy they didn't want. These people may, in fact, be unwinnable no matter who Obama takes. In that case, he doesn't have to bother trying to woo them, and can focus elsewhere on a running mate to shore up his vote count. Lex

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