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is being gay / bisexual a choice?

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  1. Guy88

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    continuing on from my previous threads, I recently met a guy, I've met up with him a few times. We've been intimate with each other, this weekend he travelled to see me and slept round the weekend. I really like him.

    As I like girls more than I like guys (this is the first guy I've ever liked) I want to know if people believe being gay / bi is a choice. I feel like I am choosing to be attracted to this guy and that the less I resist temptation the more I am attracted to him. I don't know if I agree that I was "born this way" because up until recently I have never been really attracted to guys. I am definitely not your typical bi/gay guy, I am also not your typical straight guy either. By this I mean I am not "ladish" I don't come out with crude comments about women, I don't really enjoy sports. But on the same hand I don't get the attraction of fem guys, I don't want to join gay rights activist groups, I don't feel like I need to advertise the fact I like guys, I don't want to have a gay pride day, I don't want to flaunt it, I am not camp or any of these other stereotypical things.

    Don't get me wrong, I am all for freedom of speech and expression and I am happy for everyone to do as they want to do. But I don't feel like I need to do this. I think rights for all to live equal lives is important but it wouldn't bother me to the point I would feel the need to protest for my rights.

    I dont think I was born bisexual, I also dont think I woke up one day being bisexual. I think this is a gradual transition and I feel like perhaps I am making an active choice to pursue a non heterosexual relationship.

    Sure there are probably some people who are born hard wired to be gay / bi / straight. But I don't feel like I was born this way.
     
  2. Aquilo

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    No.

    If you're really attracted to your friend you're at least a little bi.

    Now it may be possible you're 99% into girls and 1% into guys. Then you can call yourselves straight if you wish, sure. But being 99/1 isn't a choice. You can choose not to act on attraction to guys or girls, but that choice doesn't change who you can be attracted to.

    Edit: It's possible to suddenly realise your sexuality isn't what you thought it was. This doesn't mean that you suddenly made the choice to have another sexuality. The other sexuality was always there, but maybe suppressed and/or not noticed, because heterosexuality is the norm.
     
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    By that you could say that everyone is potentially bisexual. A gay guy who has not yet found any one girl they are attracted to, or a straight woman who has not yet found a girl she is attracted to. Perhaps some people never discover their true sexuality?
     
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    No, it's not a choise.
     
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    I can imagine so. But nowadays it's a bit less likely, people live longer, meet more people, have easier access to porn and there isn't as much as a social stigma on bisexuality/homosexuality.
     
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    I think that depends, on various things obviously.

    I can safely say that my interest is solely with guys because there is nothing that captures my attention with females besides being able to note prettiness(aesthetically really). Even before it hit me that I liked guys and was living straight I had no interest in pursuing girls(pressure or otherwise).


    Sure, you can choose whether or not to pursue a non-hetero relationship, but you aren't choosing your feelings/attraction. You wouldn't be genuinely pursuing the relationship if the feelings weren't there.

    As @Aquilo pointed out, it seems like you just stumbled on it eventually, as a lot do.
     
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    No choice involved. You mentioned a lot of stereotypes in your OP, and even labeled them as such. But stereotypes they are. Everyone is different. None of the common stereotypes placed on gay people really pertain to me. Doesn't mean that I can't be attracted to guys. Straight guys aren't attracted to other guys. You are attracted to guys, even if you're just now realizing it, because you are bi. No choice.
     
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    I had no idea I might be something other than heterosexual until my friends pointed out my disinterest in men and I was asked if I would date women. After fighting with myself for a while, I realised not only would I date women, but I only wanted to date them. I didn't want anything to do with my boyfriend once I knew that. I stumbled upon my sexuality, it was all incredibly confusing but after being honest with myself I saw that I was gay and there was no way to change that, no matter how many guys I dated.

    So no, it's not. But I also don't think love is a choice, and you can fall in love with anyone if you're lonely.
     
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    All of those things such as not liking sports or not making crude comments or not wanting to have a gay pride day, that stuff isn't what makes you gay bi or straight. Just your attraction to whatever sex does. All the stereotypical stuff doesn't mean a thing.

    And to answer you question, nah man, there's no choice. How do I know? I tried to change, and hurt a very close friend in the process. It's not a choice.

    Now, you can choose to ACCEPT IT and become more comfortable with your liking for guys, and the more comfortable you choose to be with it, then yeah, sometimes it really DOES feel like you're just choosing to be gay, but you don't choose to have the attraction, you just choose to go with it instead of repress it.
     
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    No it isn't a choice well it is but not one you make one you make without knowing you make it if that makes sense
     
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    If you have a temptation in the first place, that means you already weren't straight. Straight guys just aren't tempted by other guys. You can certainly have the temptation and deny it, then choose to stop denying it. That doesn't mean you chose to be bisexual. That means you were bisexual all along, and chose to accept yourself.

    Of course you're choosing to pursue a non-heterosexual relationship. No one gets into relationships because of their genes. You can be gay and chose to get into a straight relationship, but it won't mean you're straight. You can be bi and chose never to get into a same-sex relationship, but you'll still be bi.
     
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    Your lack of interest in joining gay rights groups have nothing to do with your sexuality. Neither does the fact that you don't fit into the stereotypes. I don't get why you mentioned that, it doesn't even make sense

    And no, who you're attracted to isn't a choice. You can DISCOVER that you find guys attractive, but it isn't a choice that you make. Whether you're bisexual or not, who knows. And to be honest, it doesn't matter. You like a guy right now, just see it as that. No need to call yourself anything
     
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    I used to be that sexually confused fifteen year old who thought I was bi and thought I could just date women and not involve myself with dating a guy or gay rights. Sure enough I realized I was gay and that I was born that way. My reason for thinking I was attracted to women was because I was confusing myself thinking a girl is beautiful so i must be attracted to her. The more I thought about a woman's body I realized that was not attractive to me. I am not saying there is no such thing as being bi I am just saying this from my perspective.

    I used to think I could change and be straight and I tormented myself with it until I got into high school I began to accept myself my sophomore year. I realized the need to support equal rights and became more vocal about it when I got older. Going to gay pride for the first time was liberating and felt so great. No one gave or my bf a second luck. We fit right in.

    Can you imagine being denied a job, marriage license, being banned from church, restaurant or even being denied adopting a child. Its our reality and that's why we all need to fight for it in a respectful and decent way and get the rights we deserve. It's not something we can just ignore.
     
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    For thirty five years I convinced myself I was straight. Then for the next fifteen years I came out as bisexual. It was all an attempt to say that my gay encounters were just a phase. Last summer I realized that I am truly gay. I'm wondering if this is truly the first guy that you have noticed sexually.
     
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    I completely agree with you, I didn't want to sound like I disagree with gay rights as that is certainly not what I meant. I fully understand and appreciate the need for these rights and I think discrimination of any group is awful. To be denied the right to marry who you love, to be denied a job or be denied access to a church is wrong. I just meant I don't personally feel that I need these rights for me to be happy. When I was in a straight relationship I didn't feel the need to flaunt said relationship in front of people, I am quite a private person and I've always kept my love life to myself its the way I am. So not being able to publicly show my affections or things like that doesn't bother me as I wouldn't want to anyway regardless of my sexuality.

    Ok let me rephrase, I have looked at other guys before and thought, he's good looking, but I've never wanted to get in to a relationship with a guy and I've never found them sexually attractive. I think like a gay man can find a hot woman attractive and a gay lady can find a hot man attractive, it doesn't have to be sexual. (if that makes sense)...

    The reason I mentioned that is not because I wanted to stir controversy but because I feel like an outsider. None of this stuff interests me, I guess having never accepted my sexuality before now as an outsider I have always seen these stereotypes. I think it must feel nice to belong.

    What everyone says about you can't choose to feel attraction towards the same gender / opposite gender and that is what defines your sexuality then I totally get that. You have valid points. I just feel that I may be choosing this because of lack of interest from girls and that mixed with loneliness. I mean the attention is nice, making someone happy is nice, having someone care about you is nice. I've been truly in love with a couple of girls before, and felt the heartbreak of having my world crash when we broke up. I am not sure if this is the same, or if this is purely lustful. But I know I am developing feelings, but I wonder if those feelings are forced. I can't explain fully but I was just trying to tell you how I feel.
     
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    How you feel about men or women is not a choice; how you act upon those feelings is a choice. Some people define homosexuality as how you feel; others define it as how you behave. Pick one definition or the other to answer your question.
     
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    That exactly. You never realize the all signs you had until you finally accepted yourself and say wow how come I didn't see that coming.

    ---------- Post added 11th Feb 2014 at 04:28 PM ----------

    Thanks for clarifying. I understand your prospective more now. thanks.
     
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    Orientation is not a choice a person makes.

    We can chose who to be in a relationship, whether romantic, sexual or both.
    We can chose to commit to one person or to not commit, but we can not chose our Orientation.
     
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    In the sense that I (so far) every day choose to remain alive and be queer rather than blow my brains out and terminate my queerness (and myself), yes it is.
     
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    There is definitely some strong opinions on this matter. I didn't mean to start an argument. I was just interested in your opinions. I think in other places I have read that it is the acting upon those feelings which makes our sexuality. But it is clear that the general consensus here is that those feelings are what makes up the sexuality and not the acting upon it itself.

    Sorry if I offended anyone!