60 Minutes.. Don't Ask Don't Tell

[EM68]

I am watching 60 Minutes (CBS) right now and they are talking about don't ask don't tell policy in the military. Thought you guys may be interested in seeing it.

[EM68]

The segment is over. I found it on YouTube incase you guys want to see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD9x3...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkuIb...eature=related

I know that I'll probably catch some flack for this, but I kind of like Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

I mean, the United States isn't Canada or Europe. If gay people were allowed to openly serve in the military, there would be mass protest from the soldiers. My cousin is in the Marine Corps and he told me what they would do to a gay person if one was allowed in his unit....

[GMSuerte]

Originally Posted by Perrygay

I know that I'll probably catch some flack for this, but I kind of like Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

I mean, the United States isn't Canada or Europe. If gay people were allowed to openly serve in the military, there would be mass protest from the soldiers. My cousin is in the Marine Corps and he told me what they would do to a gay person if one was allowed in his unit....

More things to fight about D=

[agraves]

I served in the US Air Force and I personally don't see why gays have to stay closeted. I agree with the man in the interview that said the younger generation is more accepting of gays. The people in my flight showed no bad feelings towards the people they suspected of or were known to be gay. They were accepted as just another person. I think allowing them to be open is going to be a lot less traumatic than the government thinks.

[the ry guy]

I'm currently still enlisted in the U.S. Army, and in my experience it's usually has to do with what unit your in. When I was with the 4ID (infantry division), I heard quite alot of anti-gay speech primarily because it went against someone's religion. but that was 3yrs ago I reclass'd and switch'd units and the unit i'm with now is pretty cool about it. most of them just don't care but there are a few people around though that don't like gays in the military which is why i'm still in the closet. I personally don't care about getting a dishonorably discharged from the army, its the having to pay back my $10K enlistment bonus, having to payback my mgibill, and all the money i've been using to pay for college and what not that bothers me and keeps me in the closet. I'll have been in 5yrs this september and i think that if you'd rather have a convicted murderer watching your back as opposed to just someone who is gay you got problems. convicts can serve but gays can't!? that is some seriously fucked up close minded bullshit in my opinion (sorry about the language it just really bugs the hell outa me)

[SkyTears]

I just finished high school and turned 18 so I'm getting all the military people calling me trying to get me to join. There are times when I just want to scream "I gay!" and hang up on them because they are annoying. Like they will call acting like they are one of your friends and you just forgot who the person is then when they get you attention they are like, "I'm so and so from the such and such." It doesn't sound bad but you really just need to hear what they say when they call and it will change your mind.

ps: I do like that I have the military I do and all so nothing against them. It just very annoying at times.

[Hepcat]

Originally Posted by the ry guy

I'll have been in 5yrs this september and i think that if you'd rather have a convicted murderer watching your back as opposed to just someone who is gay you got problems. convicts can serve but gays can't!? that is some seriously fucked up close minded bullshit in my opinion (sorry about the language it just really bugs the hell outa me)

That, to me, is the most awful hypocracy of all and what confuses me so much. The boston legal episode about the Don't Ask, Don't Tell policy nailed it pretty well. There's NO reason whatsoever for the policy apart from fueling prejudice. And compare it to the British Army who, if I recall correctly, actually participated in a Gay Pride parade and set up a recruitment station.

I think it's just tragic and HAS to be changed by the next president. I hope.

[the ry guy]

[QUOTE=SkyTears;264121]I just finished high school and turned 18 so I'm getting all the military people calling me trying to get me to join. There are times when I just want to scream "I gay!" and hang up on them because they are annoying. Like they will call acting like they are one of your friends and you just forgot who the person is then when they get you attention they are like, "I'm so and so from the such and such." It doesn't sound bad but you really just need to hear what they say when they call and it will change your mind.QUOTE]

the reason that happens is because they get a $2,000 bonus for each person they get to enlist and ship off to basic. the army reserve even started a recruiting assistance program which everyone had to sign up for, and they were like we'll give you $4k to screw your friends over and get them to enlist and ship out to basic. The whole gay topic aside i've seen and had enough of the army's BS so when my 8 yrs is up i'm not re-enlisting, I'd only recomend the army if your life was really in the gutter. one of the things they tell people is we'll give you a 4yr contract but then not tell you your actually obligated for 8yrs. Hell if you want i could give you questions to ask them to make them feel really awkward.

http://www.armytimes.com/legacy/new/...25-1307714.php


like how the hell do you "accidentally" send 20,000 defective body armor vests to the troops on the front lines? which is kinda what sparked the whole debate between dragon skin and the army's body armor in the first place, that and there was a body armor shortage back in like '03' i think not sure on that one