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| PFLAG Mom Community Liaison ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Straight Out Status: Out to everyone/Yes, parents come out too! Location: Middle of Oregon Age: 50 Posts: 7,572 Join Date: Mar 2007 | PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE JOHN MCCAIN ANNOUNCES OPPOSITION TO ADOPTION RIGHTS FOR LESBIAN AND GAY COUPLES "MCCAIN WOULD DENY LOVING HOMES TO CHILDREN WHO DESPERATELY NEED THEM," SAYS PFLAG WASHINGTON, DC – In an interview published in Sunday's New York Times, Senator John McCain (R-AZ), the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, announced his unequivocal opposition to adoption rights for lesbian and gay couples. "I think that we've proven that both parents are important in the success of a family so, no, I don't believe in gay adoption," McCain, who with his wife Cindy is a foster parent, told the paper. "In a country where more than 125,000 children are waiting for foster parents, Senator McCain would deny loving homes to children who desperately need them simply because of an outdated prejudice about what a family may look like," said Jody M. Huckaby, executive director of Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG). "We are disappointed and saddened that a public leader who is himself an adoptive father would deny the children in America's foster care system the opportunity to thrive as part of a welcoming family. Love makes a family, but short-sighted positions like Senator McCain's can certainly tear families apart, too." According to the American Academy of Pediatrics, "A growing body of scientific literature demonstrates that children who grow up with 1 or 2 gay and/or lesbian parents fare as well in emotional, cognitive, social, and sexual functioning as do children whose parents are heterosexual." The AAP has also noted that, "Overall, there are more similarities than differences in the parenting styles and attitudes of gay and non-gay" parents. Children raised by same-sex couples "seem to develop normally in every way," the group has reported. "In fact,," the Academy has said, "growing up with parents who are lesbian or gay may confer some advantages to children. They have been described as more tolerant of diversity and more nurturing toward younger children than children whose parents are heterosexual." "Senator McCain's position is out of synch with the research and science and out of step with what is in the best interests of children waiting for a home and a family," Huckaby said. "PFLAG knows the pain inflicted upon families due to misinformation about LGBT issues. We implore Senator McCain to take a serious look at the overwhelming evidence and listen to the stories of the countless children raised by loving lesbian and gay couples. The evidence is clear: children should not be denied access to the loving homes of gay couples." # # # Parents, Families and Friends of Lesbians and Gays (PFLAG) promotes the health and well-being of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender persons, their families and friends through: support, to cope with an adverse society; education, to enlighten an ill-informed public; and advocacy, to end discrimination and to secure equal civil rights. PFLAG provides opportunity for dialogue about sexual orientation and gender identity, and acts to create a society that is healthy and respectful of human diversity.
__________________ "When we're free to love anyone we choose, When this worlds big enough for all different views, When we're all free to worship from our own kind of pew, Then we shall be free" ~ Garth Brooks |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Far out Location: Mannheim, Germany Age: 62 Posts: 488 Join Date: Mar 2006 | Here is what I posted to the Advocate website when I saw the story. Back to topPost a CommentName: Lorenz Date posted: 2008-07-15 5:00 AM Hometown: Mannheim, Germany Comment: The timing couldn't be better. Finally, McCain is showing his true colors and an astounding level of narrow-mindedness. If there were any gays even thinking about voting for McCain, their eyes should be opened by now. Any person or couple who has the love and financial means should be able to adopt a child. It's time that the archaic concepts of "family" according to Bush, McCain, and organized religions is relegated to the history books where they belong. Now if Obama can stand up for gay adoption, that should be worth another 5 points in the polls. Thanks, McCain for showing your ignorance and bigotry. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
__________________ Lorenz "Why can't they have gay people in the army? Personally, I think they are just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd you call a faggot?" Jon Stewart |
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| Administrators EC Tech Admin ![]() Gender: Male Location: Germany (old europe) Age: 30 Posts: 799 Join Date: Dec 2004 | Isn't gay adoption already a reality in the US? That's quite a statement he did there .. let's hope also mass-media will feature that. |
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| Psycho Glitter B*tch Full Member ![]() Gender: Guy, Unless Life Was a Horrible April Fools Joke. Orientation: Gay/Asexual/Confusing to Explain Out Status: Armed and Fabulous! XD Location: California Age: 23 Posts: 7,379 Join Date: Mar 2008 | Wow, he's just digging himself in a bigger and bigger hole o.o
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| PFLAG Mom Community Liaison ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Straight Out Status: Out to everyone/Yes, parents come out too! Location: Middle of Oregon Age: 50 Posts: 7,572 Join Date: Mar 2007 | Quote:
http://www.hrc.org/documents/parenting_laws_maps.pdf
__________________ "When we're free to love anyone we choose, When this worlds big enough for all different views, When we're all free to worship from our own kind of pew, Then we shall be free" ~ Garth Brooks | |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | He makes me sick...hopefully this older then dust man who has never even used the internet will either wake up or not get elected. |
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| EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Montreal Age: 21 Posts: 636 Join Date: Dec 2007 | Yeah, I saw that comment (on Perez Hilton :P ). Just reinforces the fact that I would *never* vote for him... even if I could. |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Most~ Age: 19 Posts: 666 Join Date: Jan 2008 | i still dont get why any gay people would vote for him o.o even if they don't plan to adopt kids or get married |
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| Banned ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Parents, aunts, grandma, counselor, online friends Location: Central Alabama Age: 18 Posts: 2,360 Join Date: Jan 2008 | I can see that some LGBT voters would choose note to vote over a single issue, but this is becoming ridiculous. I didn't think any potential president could be less sympathetic to the issues slung at the LGBT crowd than Bush, but then McCain came along. I couldn't like him, look up to him, or support him if I tried. |
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| ♥♥EC's Resident Hippie Child♥♥ Full Member ![]() Gender: Tomboy Orientation: Questioning...still... Out Status: 2 great guys who are helping me through everything Location: Southern California Age: 20 Posts: 1,038 Join Date: Apr 2008 | Quote:
Anyway... Yeah, I really think he's making BIG mistakes talking about his views on gay rights. I mean, we're a significant part of the community...and he's kinda rejecting some votes there. *sigh* I really hate politics.
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| "define normal" Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: out to most, ask and I'll tell Location: Oklahoma Age: 25 Posts: 1,206 Join Date: Aug 2006 | I saw this on the advocate today. McCain has already dug himself into a hole and now he is burying himself with this new comment. First gay marriage and now gay adoption it hurts me that someone would just keep putting us down like this. It's people like him that keep us from progressing. It's 2008 it's time to start acting like it! I WILL NOT be voting for him.
__________________ Love knows no gender, it has no boundaries, it is blind yet everyday I wake up to a world of hate and little acceptance, it's sad that I'm hated not for who I am but for who I love~ me (Sam) Last edited by Sam; 15th Jul 2008 at 11:25 PM.. |
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| Psycho Glitter B*tch Full Member ![]() Gender: Guy, Unless Life Was a Horrible April Fools Joke. Orientation: Gay/Asexual/Confusing to Explain Out Status: Armed and Fabulous! XD Location: California Age: 23 Posts: 7,379 Join Date: Mar 2008 | Well, there's still McCain supporters on EC, so prob. not best to say anything bad about GLBT voters who are voting for him o.o;
__________________ Rawr! :3 ~The Stalker User Known As Tim~ Rawr! :3 ![]() EC's Sailor Star Healer, Oxymoron and All. Star Sensitive Inferno! Sailor Starlight, Stage On! ![]() [Vic] 7:49 pm: I keep my pants off in public. ![]() |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | oh dear ![]() |
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| Member Regular Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Everyone except for some family Location: Waterloo,Iowa Age: 19 Posts: 17 Join Date: Jul 2008 | Personally,im not a McCain fan. I respect myself far too much to support conservatives. The LGBT community is generally attacked far too often by the conservatives.McCain is in too deep of a hole with the majority of the LGBT's to get out now. He needs to learn respect for the people that make up 10% or more of the population-hes gotta know hes loosing votes.
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Most~ Age: 19 Posts: 666 Join Date: Jan 2008 | Quote: ![]() | |
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| Banned ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Parents, aunts, grandma, counselor, online friends Location: Central Alabama Age: 18 Posts: 2,360 Join Date: Jan 2008 | Like I said, many people feel that there are issues more important to them than LGBT rights, and some feel that McCain's stances on other issues outweigh his negative stances on LGBT related material. I'm not one of those people, I could never bring myself to vote for someone who would deny such basic rights to people because he doesn't approve of them, but there are people who could. That's up to them. |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Red Hook NY Age: 19 Posts: 2,736 Join Date: Dec 2007 | I never thought that someone who used the term "The Google" could be very astute. Point proven. |
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| Resident Gun owner Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: A few people Location: Chicago, IL Age: 27 Posts: 388 Join Date: Jul 2008 | I'm actually surprised McCain is even allowed to run for president, technically he can't apply for any federal government jobs anymore because of age restrictions. if the federal government says he's to old to work for them, why is he allowed to try and run for the most important job in america? ![]() |
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| Resident Gun owner Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: A few people Location: Chicago, IL Age: 27 Posts: 388 Join Date: Jul 2008 | Quote:
However, on the flip side I'm also a civilian (weekend warrior) and I'm gay, so from a civilian standpoint Obama has more to offer me than McCain does, that and I've also had a pretty crappy experience in the military and have no intentions of re-enlisting which is why I'm going to vote for Obama cause i for one would like to see some changes. | ||
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| EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Totally out, except for extended family Location: Minnesota Age: 20 Posts: 314 Join Date: Dec 2007 | I think it's interesting how the article brought up that he too was a foster parent and yet would deny the right to same-sex couples. Tsk tsk :[ There is one thing to keep in mind, however. Although John McCain may not believe in or support it, I don't think he would actively move to ban it. Same-sex adoption and/or foster care is already legal in most states. However, say if Florida were to lift their ban on same-sex adoption I'm sure he would endorse the fight to keep it banned. |
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