Otherkin and spirituality

Agreed.

 

Like totems?

 

Respectfully disagreeing is fine. This is very situational. Some otherkin bring it on themselves. You see the worst of it on Tumblr. I wouldn't advise anyone to learn about otherkin OR trans on Tumblr! There are people that treat trans as a game. I see it time and time again. It drives me up the f**king wall. I'm a trans guy and this isn't something fun. I want nothing more than to be a cis guy. How do you think an otherkin would feel when they see their spiritual beliefs treated as a roleplaying game? Enraged and sometimes a little amused at the sheer nerve of someone claiming to be a god kintype or changing kintypes every month. There are more trans otherkin than you think. The last thing they want to do is make it difficult for themselves to transition.

As EC knows; knowingly misgendering a trans person is disrespectful, unless they tell you otherwise. For example you might be their friend and they have to present as another gender somewhere. Outting a trans person is dangerous. Referring to an otherkin as a person... is still respect. Depending on the context, I might refer to an otherkin as their kintype, but they shouldn't expect everyone to do that 100% of the time. If an otherkin flares up over being called human; they're almost certainly playing a game with you. I'd say it's more similar to calling christians, uh, human.

There's ignorance and misunderstanding on both sides. I consider transsexualism to be a medical condition. I consider otherkin to be a spiritual thing. The latter shouldn't cause serious distress. They're both quite complex, and few people understand both. Hell, not even all people agree on the definition of trans or otherkin, for that matter.

Many trans people are upset by otherkin. This I can understand. They see it as an attack on them. A problem is that some otherkin do claim they're oppressed. Otherkin cannot experience social dysphoria -- unless they are also trans and thus being otherkin isn't the cause of it. I'm skeptical about 'species dysphoria. Too many people believe that otherkin actually want to transition into another species. This physical shifting nonsense about otherkin... it has gone too far. A responsible wolf therian isn't gonna abandon the human life they built up, especially once they learn they get to live longer, enjoy video games, and so on. Sooner or later, the wiser ones come to terms with it. If someone wants to run away and live with wolves to escape their life... something is wrong within their lives.

Otherkin or not, almost everyone experiences life as human physically/psychologically/socially, and develops a human psyche -- physical evidence is the BRAIN. There is no excuse to bite people and blame it on an 'involuntary mental shift'. There are idiots within almost every community.

Children raised by animals... that's not otherkin, that's an entirely different, fascinating topic. That's yet one more reason we need to educate people about trans. Joe public will then point and laugh at otherkin or respectfully disagree with their beliefs. Trans shouldn't cross their mind.

Next episode - dissociative identity disorder vs systems. Or maybe not. Systems are either roleplaying or it's how they deal with DID. I personally believe that it is impossible for a human to 'contain' more than one soul. Personalities, yes, but not multiple souls! If you don't know what I'm talking about... don't worry. Now, how we should treat DID, is yet another topic.

 

What is up with all the other-kin talk lately? =/

First we have a big fight about other-kin, then someone who says they are other-kin makes a thread, and now we're making another thread.

Is this like the 'issue of the week'? =P


In either case since there are people hanging around the forum who identify themselves as other-kin I'll happily stay uninvolved from the side-lines this time around. :3

 

My soul is really a goldfish (I was switched at birth with a goldfish won at a carnival. He died and now I'm stuck in this body and can't switch back) and therefore, as a goldfish, I am attracted to other goldfish like myself, so it is totally a sexual thing that should be categorized under LGBT. I think your discrimination is utter carassiusism and it won't be tolerated on a liberal forum such as this.

 

Not sure why there's a rise on otherkin threads...but okay.

 

Maybe because the first thread ended up hostile and locked, leaving questions raised and then unanswered.

 

Possibly.

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So you're sexually attracted to goldfish?

First things first...and I hope you won't take any offense to this, but...you aren't just trolling are you?

I mean this seems like it could really go either way.

A woman's married the berlin wall so I don't see goldfish being out of the question, still at the same time it's not something you hear everyday and I could pretty easily imagine someone who was trolling picking something obscure and spontaneous like a goldfish.

 

Otherkin are physically human with a human brain. If they believe otherwise, they're deluded or playing games. They should be into humans, or asexual. If they're attracted to animals, that's a separate issue, and should NEVER be tolerated. I would slowly lower animal abusers into acid.

Spirituality does not equal LGBT. I probably hindered more than I helped, but it seemed that EC was dying to learn about an obscure topic. Otherkin week. I'd really rather end it there.

 

Well I don't see it ending now that the question has been raised ^^"

Besides, regardless of how 'touchy', 'awkward', or just 'disturbing' a subject is it is always a positive to understand it. I mean even something like serial killers, our understanding of their minds and how they work has been a benefit in helping to deal with them. ( no I'm not comparing the two, I'm simply stating that unpleasant isn't an excuse not to understand ). It helps to understand why people do what they do, think what they think, and feel what they feel. The more we know the better prepared we are to help them.

 

This is the best thing that has been said on this topic. I could not have written it better, and would probably have written something far more polarizing. Thanks, Chip!

 

I also agree with Chip. And as I mentioned in the other thread, if you're "really" a horse, I don't think you'd be talking to anyone in human language. Anyone can do what they want, within reason, but any wish to be part of the LGBT+ community on those grounds is rather ridiculous and delegitimising.

 

Just out of curiosity, how does that cat in your profile pic feel about your species?

 

I can't say I disagree that someone who feels this way isn't going through some sort of problem. I mean it seems that would make the most sense, and I'd likely be inclined to think they should seek a therapist to discuss it with.

I don't think we should let this issue speak for or again us, however, instead we should just acknowledge it as its own issue. I don't feel like actively trying to include it or actively trying to distance from it does anyone any favors. Instead, we should address the issue as the issue it is and seek to help whomever is dealing with it.

That's just my take anyways.

Also...and this is just a hypothesis ( which is basically just a glorified name for a guess ) but couldn't it be possible ( at least in some cases ) that these people associating so strongly with animals and rejecting their own humanity could potentially be some sort of coping mechanism for body dysphoria? (please note: I'm not saying they are an animal trapped in a humans body, I'm saying perhaps they are experiencing body dysphoria and this is some sort of strange method of dealing with it? The mind's done weirder things. ) <--- waits to die for suggesting this.

 

I have not come out to her yet.

 

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