Is the United States paranoid of the possibility of an European superstate?

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This is just one example of quite a few from the American media which portrays the European Union in a bad light.

I mean just look at that video, such propaganda.

So yeah, whats up with that lol.

[Austin]

I've never heard of it. If it was a HUGE scare I would have (such as economy etc) The news likes to blow things out of proportion.

[panda]

CNN is a source of much misinformation . But think about it. The USA is in the worst shape that it's ever been.
Bankrupt.
Mortgage screw up.
Iraq horror show.
Totally inept White House policies.
We can only hope that Bush doesn't bomb Iran.

It's not a huge stretch of the imagination to think that a Europe United would want to step into the vacuum that Bush's policies have created.

Well, speaking for myself, I don't care what Europeans do. If they want to sell off their individual sovereignty, I say by all means let them have at it.

America is WAY more concerned about China just fyi.

[Bryan90]

(excuse me for my lengthy post, I couldn't resist
disclaimer: the following lengthy post contain absolutely no quotable/academic facts)

Dear America,

The dream that is America once existed sometime ago when America was a land of equal opportunity unlike their European counterparts where the class system was still strongly embedded in their societies. This dream that once existed, (along with other events like the WWII, and fall of the Soviet Union) has given birth to the American hegemony for the past 50 years.

However, today, the world has changed, my dear America. You have not only lost much of your soft power due to the destruction and hostility you imposed on many other sovereign states with your hegemonic power, you have lost your sole rights to the dream that is America.

The European Union is renowned for their structural funds, among other characteristics, where wealthy countries of the EU donate a certain amount of money to help the less wealthy states in EU. (Britain actually received a great amount of these funds back when they first joined EU and was very poor). If only you would start looking at your poorer states and your very own poor citizens (and various other issues), instead of worrying about who and who is about to steal your hegemony away and instead of worrying how to impose your culture across the universe to maintain your hegemony, you would have been a much more respectable state. And with this error, your reputation has dwindled and so has your soft power.

Yes, you still have the largest economy in the world. But look at the greed that possess your people, and blinds their judgment. (Even my dog could get a mortgage, if I had a dog.) Bubble after bubble due to deregulations after deregulations(dot-com, housing), how many bubbles more can you take before you drag down the world economy?

The only might you have left is military power, but what can that do in today's world which is dominated by global civil society. The Europeans are doing their best to prevent the very same tragic in Europe (I hope) by building up an European community (through labour mobility), by elevating everyone into an equal plane (through welfare) and by regulations on the greedy and malevolent (through more power to the state/EU parliament). And instead of reflecting on your current position, you choose to criticize everybody and worry that they wish to "check" your power.

My dear America, I was once a boy living across continents, hoping that I would one day hop onto you, to live the American dream. Alas, the "American" dream is now more evident in many other states than it is in America itself.

My dear America, not only elect the right President, but let that president know how much you still care for the dream that is America, for it is a beautiful dream that the world would love to see in America once again.

Yours sincerely.

(End of lengthy post.. lol)

Mmmm, I can tell that this thread isn't going to last very long, just by the limited amount of posts so far. Y'all need to keep this thread on track, don't let it turn into a bashing session.

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Lol I could give a damn less if a European superstate emerges. I have no reason to be paranoid. What people don't get about me is that my love for America is unconditional. Nothing can happen that will change that, I'm always going to love America and love being American. It's not like I'm worried that if a European superstate emerges that they're going to be better and everyone's gonna want to go there or something.

[Lexington]

The United States is paranoid of absolutely everything.

Except China. They're cool. For some reason.

Lex

[Bryan90]

Originally Posted by Lexington

The United States is paranoid of absolutely everything.

Except China. They're cool. For some reason.

Lex

Haha are you sure? China has like a HUGE foreign reserve of American currency. Do you know sometime ago, I read this article saying that all the enemies of america (including china) is secretly saving American dollar reserves to bring down the American economy... if that is not paranoia.. I don't know what is!!!

[acorn7]

Ugh, that report is so presumptuous. Oh no, someone's going to challenge "U.S. global leadership"!

[Amy]

yea...we're paranoid of everything. especially california.

someone brings a spork to school? *boom* detention. too much white on sundays? *boom* youre arested for suspicion of dealing.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by amyleona

yea...we're paranoid of everything. especially california.

someone brings a spork to school? *boom* detention. too much white on sundays? *boom* youre arested for suspicion of dealing.

Our high school gave out suspensions if you wore all of the same color for one day, they automatically said you were in a gang. So, I had Grey/blue shoes on, blue jeans, and my blue vest on one day, they tried to suspend me, and I showed them my shoe, pant and shirt size and they said sorry <_< (Hard to find clothes my size =P)

[hoping]

Ceratin people could get pissed off with what im about to write but i dont really care.
The us is just into looking after its own interests after bush was caught out on lying about wmds in iraq he changed it to oh we did it for humanitarian reason, well if that suddenly means killing 500,000 iraqis, making 3 million leave their country, increse rapes, murders, even though saddam hussien was an evil bastard remember who put him into power oh it was mr george bush snr. and yet now in darfur the us government does nothing. The international criminal court was made to prosucute war criminals and yet it only got allowed after american soldiers got immunity so now in the case of a 14yo iraqi girl who was raped and killed and then her family was killed by 4 us soldiers they either just got discharged or with light sentances or in the case of one of the main ones was just discharged and let go.
The us just doesnt like when other countrys get some kind of power that they want and its been that way since 1945, when the us gained the superpower status they wanted the power and now they have it.

[Cheese Love]

The US shouldn't be so flattered as to think its only purpose in forming is to "challenge the US world leadership".

[Amy]

about the whole "the american dream is just that, the dream of americans" thing

i live in one of the most diverse cities in the area. there are people in terrible areas that are just flat out scary, to the wine families who have more than many could dream of, to the scientists and engeners who work for the labs. none of these people have "the dream". the financialy unfortunant who never know what is coming next. the material-rich who always have to look and act presentable. the latter, who may be doing what they love, but are at a constant risk of being fired. trust me hen i say this, all three are very emotionaly and psychological damaging.

the dream will never be possible. complete happiness is less likely than teleportation. just my thoughts.

Originally Posted by Myzou

Our high school gave out suspensions if you wore all of the same color for one day, they automatically said you were in a gang. So, I had Grey/blue shoes on, blue jeans, and my blue vest on one day, they tried to suspend me, and I showed them my shoe, pant and shirt size and they said sorry <_< (Hard to find clothes my size =P)

haha...niiice.

my friend got a week of detention for wearing a white bandana in her hair on a wednesday(or maybe it was thursday. which ever one is the ultra-paranoid day for drug selling :-P ). i must saw, it was quite amusing. "miss, please take out your bandana" "no" "yes. it is against school policy to wear gang and drug parifinalia" "really?" "yes" "too bad, because its not" "dont make me write you up" "no. it matches my bra"

[the ry guy]

Originally Posted by hoping

Ceratin people could get pissed off with what im about to write but i dont really care.
The us is just into looking after its own interests after bush was caught out on lying about wmds in iraq

Actually lol your going to get a kick out of this, he didn't lie about that, and the wmd's, and the reason why we knew the had them and why it won't ever be on the the news is a few decades back when the US was allied with Iraq and Iran invaded Iraq WE GAVE THEM NUCLEAR, BIOLOGICAL, AND CHEMICAL Weapons to use against the Iranians which they did, so it would be kind of embarassing to see wmd's found and then on the side of the barrels property of the US government oh how did that get there, they don't teach that stuff in schools anymore which is one of the reasons why people don't know that, if you watch the movie Jarhead the part where they got to swollow (i butcherd that word i know buts 4am so i don't care) some vaccine pill is so that they aren't as supceptable supcept supsomething like that to gas attacks,in dessert storm/shield they didn't destroy the stuff so were doing it now, also I don't believe America is a super power anymore, it hasn't been for a long time, economy aside, what do we export...nothing, whats made in America...nothing we immport everything, GM vehicles are Made in Mexico and are partially assembled in America, clothes and what not are immported through China, electronics through Japan, the only thing we still make is crops, for obvious reasons, and oil we immport, not to mention the US dollar ain't worth much anymore, and as for having military dominance I wouldn't be too sure about that either, we may have the most technologically advanced air force yes but army, marines now ground troops don't get squat, when my unit was deployed for our first tour we got M16A1's from vietnam, the gun was older than I am and had seen more combat than most people in the service see in there lives, germany has the most technologically advanced military i'd say, why else would the U.S. army rangers, U.S. special forces, and Navy seals, be buying weapons from Hechlor & Koch (HK is based in germany, by the way Have OUTSTANDING weapons i've personally tried out some of their weapons and know for a fact that their weapons are better than ours)
not to mention there were shortages on ballistic armor and some of us had to buy our own. not to mention most military vehicles, armor and weapons (M9 pistol (italy, FN 249, 240B,MK.19, some M16's all made in belgum i prolly mispelled that too, the orginal M16 was designed for jungle warfare not desert) are all imported last time i was in our arms room our ammo was imported from yougoslavia or something and were not going to invade Iran (god i hope not, the president can bite my ass if we do) reason being Iran HAS THE LARGEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD with like 70% of their population in the military were talk'n tens of millions if not hundreds, and right behind them is China with like 40% of there population is in the military, and then we look at america the entire U.S.military combined makes up LESS THAN 1% of the population in america. reason being we have a volunteer military where as Iran it's mandatory, we would get are ass kicked six ways from sunday, the only reason we would get involved is if they attacked us first then maybe. but the economy in america is in the gutter most american's i'm not saying everyone just most, feel like there entitled to something, i don't have to do that why doesn't someone else, and then when someone does they bitch. that illegal alien is stealling jobs from amercians, ok jacko why don't you quit your job and take his place, they won't. most americans are also lazy, americans love to complain, well i do atleast. but in the end it comes down to most people, MOST people just don't like what they don't understand. thats the cold harsh truth, case inpoint some anti-gay guy i talked to once told me he didn't like gays because of his faith, well after i blew his religion out of the water (i'm an athiest and a politcal science major, i can rip most people a new one when it comes to religion), his excuse was he thought it was disgusting, well during 1600 AD in america most Americans thought African americans were disgusting (i dont think i need to go into further details, 1600's what did EVERY American have slaves. and who said they weren't human oh the catholic church, you would think that african americans would some of the most understanding people, after having been enslaved for what 400years the then having to fight for freedom, then equal rights. but there not, not in my experience anyways.) after which he just said he didn't like gays but didn't know why and couldn't explain it. people don't like what they don't understand. as for the european treaty or whatever MEH! don't care, i don't live there so its not my problem (and America needs to stop meddling in other peoples affiars its more harm the good, case in point vietnam, and the korean war) so long as it has on direct or long lasting effects on me or my life in general i don't care (another problem with america most people just do give a shit anymore).

I'm really sorry, if this seems more like a rant than a well thought out something, but it's 4am and just got done working a double shift and i got work at 10am i'm really tired but i can't frick'n fall asleep!

That superstate thing is so NOT true.Europe only wants peace and serenity.They want to gather European states because countries as mine(Serbia) are too poor and if all countries would work together we could live better.Imagine that USA is not one country than 50 independent country...a chaos!

[matt3208pc]

Of course anything that could challenge the US is automatically 'anti-American', according to the media anyways. People need to remember that everything on the news is bias, no doubt some conservative is behind this story. The EU joining has helped the smaller countries considerably, and if these kind of benefits are 'anti-American', then these media people are either full of hypocricy or smoking joints. I don't mean to bash the people of American, more the media and government who think that any rise of power is a direct threat against them.

I laugh every time I watch that video :P

SECRET DEAL lmao

[hoping]

ry guy thanks for putting that in, i always leave that out, yeah it seems the us loves giving its own wmds to countries, like its gives depleted uranuim shells and chemical weapons to isreal and god knows what else. In queensland the us has a base there and they use depleted uranium shells so now there are many women having miscarraiges and deformed babies and it pisses me off that all these us backed governments in australia and other places support us propaganda saying depleted uranium isnt dangerous and then they say they dont use it and on top of that cluster bombs that isreael dropped on lebonon by the thousand during the recent conflict there were supplied by the us and the us refuses to sign the ban on cluster bombs and land mines, its such bullshit and then people defend the us military torturing people it pisses me off, the us claim to be the good guys and yet they use the tactics of nazi germany and stalins russia.
the nazis used mass propaganda, as do the us, they kept saying about freedom, as do the us.
The nazi propaganda minister josef goebbels said this'' propaganda should be used in a way so cleverly that the people must not know that it is propaganda'' and that is what people like fox news do bombard with their over the top patrotism.

The united states is becoming and has been for a while a total global dictorship and evidence is everywhere in australia right now i believe has around 45 000 troops here and in japan, germany , belgium , holland, italy , england, kazakstan, iraq, afghanastan, saudi arabia,turkey, south korea, guam, bulgaria, chcek republic and many more, let me ask you this why does the united states need a base in the centre of australia that only monitors australians, txts, emails, phone calls. it is a facility at pine gap in australia, the australian government and us governments say its for missle dection but that is bull, its just another way of the good old us of a taking more control.