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Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by what827, May 26, 2014.

  1. what827

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    Why is it that same-sex female romance seems to be stigmatized, but same-sex male romance is becoming more accepted? Do you think it is because women are generally more accepting, but not about their own gender? Just some phycological questions here :eusa_danc
     
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    Part of it is probably because gay women are associated with pornography and as women in general are viewed as sexual objects, so some believe that gay women should exist only for the pleasure of the men as do other women. Also lesbians are often approached by men who claim they can 'screw us straight' whereas gay men rarely if ever get that from females.

    Overall I'd say it's because men still have a bit more privilege and tend to be taken more seriously.
     
  3. It's called Male Privilege.

    ---------- Post added 26th May 2014 at 05:27 PM ----------

    I was also going to mention that.

    Basically, men are threatened when we don't need their approval to feel complete.

    [Please refrain from saying "Not all men"]
     
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    I've actually noticed the opposite -- where I live, anyway. I've always thought that people were more okay with seeing lesbians in public and in the media than they were with gay men. That might be traced back to the idea that relationships between two women are not taken seriously and therefore don't really bother folks as much.

    I also feel like it's more common for a lesbian to have straight same-sex friends than it is for a gay man to have straight same-sex friends.

    These are just generalities, of course.
     
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    I've noticed the opposite as well. Males have always been thought to be nasty if they are gay, but lesbians are accepted. Sure, some is sexism, but how do you explain all the guys who accept and adore stone and hard butches, who are not in pornos? It is usually us Femmes that are in porns, and not even Femmes(because we would be with a Butch not another feminine lesbian) but the lipstick lesbians.
     
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    I would say any stigmatisation is usually the result of morons.

    Happy days :slight_smile:
     
  7. Fallingdown7

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    I think It's more because we aren't taken seriously and we exist only to be a man's sexual pleasure.

    However, gay men don't have it any easier.
     
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    It really depends on the region and the people. Like my extended family would be furious if I, the first born and only child to my parents, didn't take a wife and continue the line, verses the third daughter of my aunt liking girls and it being okay since the "line" would go on. That's just my weirdo, hyper religious family on my dad's side.

    Also, lesbians are more widely accepted then men where I'm at, mostly because people will notice two guys holding hands vs two women. Again, it's going to be different where I'm at vs other areas
     
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    This is completely bizarre to me. And I certainly don't mean that as an attack at all.

    It's bizarre because it seems like a fair number of gay men come in here and say just the opposite, which is "man, it's so HARD to be gay, and everybody LOVES lesbians."

    And there's a shitstorm when somebody says that, predictably of course, because generally gay dudes who say this kind of ignore this thing called... wait for it:




    The sexual objectification of Women, Including lesbians And multisexual women, who are supposed to be available to males at all times, because males own them.




    My view of the matter is pretty simple: it's hard for EVERYONE to be queer. Men and women who are queer face different challenges. Women are still treated like marketable property by straight dudes, and this gets mistaken as "acceptance." There are dudes who jack off to lesbian porn and still vote against marriage equality, so let's not kid ourselves here. Men are treated as defectors to the side of "women," and are seen as "girly" for liking receptive anal intercourse.

    In both of these scenarios of homophobia, the incredibly obscene misogyny is clear as day.
     
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  10. Fallingdown7

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    I love you Pret, thank you so so so much.

    Lesbians have a lot of problems that sometimes gay men do ignore, however it would also be wrong for me to say I have it "worse" compared to a gay man (Because I absolutely don't). I just wish people could understand that we all have unique struggles.
     
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    I don't know why some people think a straight man jack off the lesbian porn is acceptance and even hitting on lesbian. Pret is right all the way