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From gay to bi

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by the prince, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. the prince

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    Hey all :smilewave

    Is it possible to a gay guy to develop romantic and sexual feelings towards girls ?

    Why therapists/psychiatrists are so confusing some say that that is impossible and the others disagree?

    And I find it really annoying :tantrum: when people generalize and say all gays were born gay, why they don't say that some of them become gay because of their environment just like me ??!!!
     
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    what do you mean you became gay because of your environment?
     
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    Why did you clock on that and forgot the other questions ? :dry:
     
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    I do believe that nothing is impossible, I think its very very rare though.
    I can find my female friends as pretty and sexy but I've never had the thought of being in a relationship with them. :3
     
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    thats the only thing i was not sure about, lol sorry and it is possible for you to be attracted to girls sexually and romantically, but um was this sudden?
     
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    finally some positivity :slight_smile:, thanks chi29
     
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    well you responded fast, lol had to read your post over was confused, k now um answer my question, lol
     
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    Not sudden I am planning to develop these feeling towards girls to make my life easier to live :icon_sad:.
     
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    oh so, your TRYING to develop the feelings, like making yourself get a gf, for eample
     
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    I'm actually really curious about Peacemaker's question, just because I've never heard anyone positively assert that their environment made them gay. I've heard people say they are open to the possibility that environment was a factor--I myself am open to it as a possibility--but I've never heard anyone say of themselves that they are confident that's what did it.
     
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    I can't really know your experience, because I'm a bisexual. I feel like this would be mislabeling, and self-confusion. Pretty courageous self-confusion though, because it often goes the other way around.

    Because psychology is a scientific field, and sometimes scientists disagree (but are always informed by studies based on empirical evidence).

    This thesis is a bit difficult to defend. We think that we know what we're thinking, but we don't always know.

    I can say that the scientific evidence does not support the thesis that homosexuality is environmentally determined. It appears to be due to epigenetics.

    I used to think that I programmed myself to be bisexual. But that's not really what happened. Rather, I affirmed myself and accepted my bisexuality, rather than hating myself.
     
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    ya sorry " planning to try" :grin:, not exactly I want to be more masculine; my masculinity is 2% :dry: I think that's well help me a lot because a big part of my gayness is being girly
     
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    oh you tend to display a feminine side rather/more than a masculine side, interesting but, having attractions to girls and/or guys does not make someone feminine, straight guys can be that as well
     
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    Okay I'll tell you.

    When I was a child I didn't see my dad a lot because he was at work and when he returns he often goes to sleep, he's feminine and really nervous; that's why he rarely took us outside the house.

    So my point is there wasn't a masculine element in my house to gain masculinity and I developed girls' feelings because I am always with my mom and used to play with girls way more than I play with boys.
     
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    ohh, that ok that makes sense hmm

    ---------- Post added 3rd Jun 2014 at 09:31 PM ----------

    well do you ACT feminine? it could just be that you appear more feminine
     
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    Thanks Pret Allez for your usual good points :slight_smile:, I don't know what to say but do you mean that it's not possible to be gay because of childhood environment ?

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    In home I usually act feminine but outside (school) no I dislike to act feminine near my male friends I'll feel silly and ridiculous and probably they will know that I am gay :dry:.

    To make things clearer :
    I am sure I am 100% sexually gay but my romantic feelings are the same of typical/classic straight girls feelings, I hope that makes sense.
     
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    I don't know that feminine influences can make you gay but they could make you more feminine in the way you walk/talk/move and/or more in tune with women's needs and feelings (which would actually be a huge benefit if you're straight).

    If lack of a masculine role model was the cause for gayness then all guys with two 'traditional' parents would end up straight, and all guys with a single mums and/or lots of sisters would end up gay, but it's not the case.

    As for "turning bi".
    If you've been around women all your life, then there's a good chance that you understand them better than you understand men (including yourself), so a sexual curiosity about women would be expected, even if you're gay.

    Sorry if that's no help.

    Peace be with you.
     
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    ^ I think we define femininity in the same way :/ so this is how I see it :
    over feminine = girly = gay I mean if a man has 20-50% femininity it won't be a problem but having more than 80% it would make him like a girl and girls are attracted to men.

    In my society most or some boys with a single mum or lots of sisters end up femme gays.

    That was helpful thank you :slight_smile:.
     
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    I've known completely feminine guys and butch girls who are as straight as an arrow. And masculine men and femme girls who are as queer as someone can get. Just because someone doesn't adhere to gender roles does not make the queer.
     
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    ^ Right but still not a general rule :/ .