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Are lesbians the one of least respected group in the lgbt community ?

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  1. stocking

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    Now I know I know your gonna say how straight men find lesbians attractive but that's not really support it's because they sexualize us and see us as walking pornos and not as human beings .
    Let me know what you guys think and please do not turn this into the who has it worse debate .
     
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    It depends on who you ask and the context. In a male dominated workplace or line of work, I'd say lesbians might do better than gay or bisexual men, all else held constant. My 2 cents. Then, within lesbians, it would depend on whether they are lipstick, soft butch, or butch, both among straights and even among lesbians themselves. There is no correct answer here. The same scenarios apply to gay or bi men. It depends on many factors.
     
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    Meh, I dunno... I think bisexuals and trans people are even less respected, even within the LGBTQ community itself.
     
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    Be wary with such questions. This seems to me like nothing more than one of those "we have it worse than everyone else" threads.

    Each group in the LGBT.... Spectrum have their own common as well as unique issues to be addressed.

    If I must give an answer though on the who is least respected issue, you could argue no, as at least your acknowledged as existing. Many have argued that bisexual men don't even exist. You can't get less respect than denial of your very existence.

    However, I as I said, I don't want to really get drawn into a who's got it worse argument as I don't actually feel I have it worse then anyone else and there are plenty out there that have it much worse thsn I.

    Happy days :slight_smile:
     
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    I said one of many not the only one and I've been told as a lesbian like you a bisexual man that i was not real and had to had some attraction to men or something was wrong with me many times but in many men minds we lesbians have it easy don't we:rolle:
     
  6. Jay47

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    Actually, in regard to liking girls, I've had it pretty easy.
    In regard to not conforming to gender stereotypes, I've had a tough time. If a girl catches me looking at her, she smiles. Haven't ever had a bad reaction to that. (Guess I'm just cute :wink: ) but when an old right wing man sees me with my 90's boy haircut, plaid shirt, cargo shorts, etc, I have had said men rant at me for not being ladylike enough. Or when I speak my mind. Or sit with my legs not crossed because my shins stick together in 100 degree heat.

    In conclusion, the trans spectrum and bi people deal with the most discrimination. People believe in all of them as much as Santa.
     
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    It seems to me that lesbians and gay guys are the most respected within the LGBT community.
     
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    I certainly think so, from what I've had to go through anyway.

    There's pressure to fit into the stereotypical butch/femme relationship, femmes and lipsticks are looked down upon and seen as air-headed, sexual objects, etc...

    These are big reasons why I don't have much respect for the "lesbian community," and I honestly wish I could change my orientation.

    ---------- Post added 17th Jun 2014 at 11:30 AM ----------

    Also, apparently I'm the only lesbian in the world who doesn't drink or smoke, and has no desire to be in a relationship with someone who does. *gets shot*
     
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    This. :slight_smile:
     
  10. Fallingdown7

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    I think trans people are probably the least respected in our whole community, if you're asking for my opinion.

    But I agree that lesbians are not respected; we are told that:
    - Our sexuality is not "real", It's just a show to impress men
    - We will eventually want a man and that we need a dick
    - That we are still virgins until we endure rape by men
    - We have higher sexual assault rates than straight women (however, trans people have higher overall)
    - We're just "experimenting"


    I would say that the violence isn't as high, but the general support is lower. Gay men have it worse in the social scene, but they're also treated better and more accepted by the LGBT community itself. Lesbians don't have it -as- hard or have to live with as many threats socially, but lesbian misogyny and heterosexism is committed against us by homophobes, straight allies, AND LGBT people.
     
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    I don't even think you can group all lesbians under one category, since you have working class lesbians, women of color, transsexuals, etc. That, on top of each group having their own struggles, which often coincide.
     
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    Only when you fit the lesbian and gay stereotype but when you don't you get less respect
    I'm going to make a more detailed thread on this be right back
     
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    Misogyny.

    I believe that's an important factor in the mistreatment of gay women. Others play a role, of course, but I won't really get into that lest this thread escalates into an argument.

    I completely agree with Radioactive Bi, by the way. I am a trans man - part of the spectrum people have claimed to have it "worse".

    That's very debatable.

    When I came out to my mother, she said, "I'm actually happy. I always wanted a boy. I just don't want you to hurt like this. Please don't feel like you have to be a boy just because I wanted one."

    That's so sweet. It's so sweet it's suffocating.

    But, my mother isn't very gay-friendly. She's dissed them plenty of times, and I think I can comfortably label her as a homophobic parent. She probably would've acted a lot worse if I came out as lesbian (little does she know I'm not entirely straight either; ha).

    Having that said, it really depends on who you're talking about. Gay people may have more awareness, but transgender people can score a lucky one with people who just think a certain why. I heard a story about a trans woman being accepted in her family because her mother wanted a girl instead of a boy - so it works two ways.

    And that's my two cents.
     
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    Transgender for sure.

    No question.
     
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    I agree it really depends on the type of lesbians , but I do think bisexuals and transsexuals have it worse this is why I said one of the least respected not the only one . I'll make a more detailed one
     
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    I think that if you expand that in to LGBTQ, the queer people have it pretty rough considering nobody has any clue what it means. People don't even think it's a real thing, they think you have to be LGBT or straight. Sure a lot of people don't respect lesbian as an identity, but even less people respect queer. I do agree that lesbians get a lot of trouble, but I think everyone who isn't straight and cisgendered will have some sort of unfair treatment.
     
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    nope. i'd say they're hold equally in "high regards" with the gay community. i think it's just depends on how you view it.
    for me, all kinds of groups have pros and cons, and the lgbt community is not any different
     
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    No, Not at all.
     
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    In my opinion, the bisexuals have the least respect. People say they're greedy and just want lust, can't commit to one person, or that they're just gays in denial. That's just me though.
     
  20. Fallingdown7

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    I think we can't really compare because everyone has a different kind of struggle :/
    I can agree that some groups do have it worse; but saying lesbians have it the easiest is also wrong and erases what we go through.