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| EC's Biggest Creep Full Member ![]() Gender: Guy Orientation: Gay Out Status: Ask and I'll tell Location: California Age: 26 Posts: 246 Join Date: Jul 2008 | I dunno if this topic has come up before but... Yesterday, I was speaking with a gay friend of mine and the topic of marriage came up. Even though he's gay, he would still like to have a 'normal' family, that is, he would like to get married to a woman and have kids of his own. I was puzzled and I asked him if he would continue to live a gay life secretly. He said yes and I was kinda surprised. He said he would just be discreet about the whole thing to his family while he's secretly out having affairs with men. I told him I could never live with myself if I had to fake my whole marriage. He said its the only way he would have a normal family and pass on his genes. So my question to you gay guys/gals out there this... Would you marry the opposite sex just for the sake of having a traditional family? I would love to start a family too when the time is right but not like this... |
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| Well Known Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: gay Out Status: whoever asks (which oddly is hardly anyone) Location: new jersey Age: 20 Posts: 165 Join Date: Jan 2008 | nope i could never lie like that. and besides, the traditional family is less dominant now, what with single parents, adopted kids, gay parents, etc. |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | If I were gay I probably would just for the sake of wanting to be normal. Although idk I might feel bad about just using a woman. I would still probably do it though. |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | Having a family is a big responsibility. I dont think it would be the right thing to do. Ive heard few stories about one parent leaving the family and I think the kids would get affected by it the most if it happens. |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Pansexual Out Status: Out to everyone Location: B*Town, Ohio Age: 22 Posts: 449 Join Date: Jul 2008 | Eh. While I'm only half gay... :P My thing is if the guy is really set on passing his genes on, don't start a family just for that. Donate his sperm to one of his friends whose willing. They can do that through...what's it called...in vitro? Where they basically have him fill a cup with it, take a syringe, and squirt it into the girl. Simple. I mean, if passing on his genes is all he wants to do, thats the way to do it. And he could keep in touch with the kid. It wouldn't be annonymously like at a sperm bank or whatever. |
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| Banned ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: All but some family Location: Az Lake Havasu Age: 22 Posts: 231 Join Date: Jul 2008 | I could not do this...It seems like it would get tiring honestly |
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| The gay gargoyle EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Colorado Age: 42 Posts: 12,371 Join Date: Dec 2007 | I have never ever understood the "pass the genes on" thing. I mean, I understand that some people want to have kids. That's totally cool. It's when the only reason that they want kids is "I have to pass my genes on". Why? What's so superior about my genes? So there'll be "part of you" still living when you die? I can't really wrap my brain around that mindset. Lex |
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| We're all a little mad! EC Moderator ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Las Vegas Age: 24 Posts: 5,542 Join Date: Jan 2008 | No absolutely not. That's something I couldn't do. Not for anyone.
__________________ "Everybody's journey is individual. If you fall in love with a boy, you fall in love with a boy. The fact that many Americans consider it a disease says more about them than it does about homosexuality".-James Baldwin |
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| EC's Biggest Creep Full Member ![]() Gender: Guy Orientation: Gay Out Status: Ask and I'll tell Location: California Age: 26 Posts: 246 Join Date: Jul 2008 | well i could understand why he would feel that way. there's immense pressure from his parents, he's closeted to his family, and in our culture (we are both of the same ethnic background), being homosexual is completely taboo. still i know it's wrong and told him so myself but he says he will still follow in the lifestyle he has planned out despite knowing his potential marriage to a woman will all be a sham. i wish i can change his mind... of course, if he could find a gay woman... |
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| OMG a Gay Smokey Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Florida Age: 23 Posts: 408 Join Date: Apr 2007 | There is NO way I could ever do that...
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| يَناير Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: France Age: 22 Posts: 849 Join Date: Aug 2008 | I think that it's a BIG disrespect for his 'wife' and kids.
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| Guest Posts: n/a | No I'm Bi and would tell my wife long before marrying her. But who knows I might marry a man someday. |
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| Procrastination Queen Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: 30(ish) friends, but mostly closeted. Out to mum Location: UK Posts: 1,009 Join Date: Nov 2007 | I don't believe that this is ethical. The only way it could possibly be ethical is if he explains that he is gay and exactly what he is doing to his wife and she for some unknown reason is happy with it. I think that there is a massive difference between getting married (to someone of the opposite sex) when you are in the closet to yourself, perhaps staying married to someone once you've finally come out to yourself, and entering a marriage when you already know you're gay. If you already know you're gay - or rather, concerning anyone who doesn't love their spouse-to-be - and you don't love the person, you shouldn't marry them! If I ever get involved with anyone, I will let them know from the start that I am bi (and will perhaps have to explain that this doesn't mean I'll cheat *sigh*) |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | I would NEVER cheat on someone...but I will surely donate the sperm,I never liked children,but some people dream of children,why not make their life better... |
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| EC's Sailor Uranus Full Member ![]() Gender: Biologically Female Orientation: Heterosexually Challenged Out Status: Most people Location: Bath, England Age: 21 Posts: 5,853 Join Date: Sep 2007 | No. I could never do that. For one thing I'm a terrible liar, so I'd suck at the discreet thing. Plus, I couldn't live with a husband and kids. It's precisely what I do not want so I couldn't go through with it. I feel sorry for the guy if he's willing to go through all that just for the sake of appearing "normal".
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| EC 'Dad' EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Toronto Age: 41 Posts: 7,445 Join Date: Mar 2007 | Quote:
Society had me conditioned to believe that I would get married, have kids (and the obligatory dog - as mentioned above!) and that's what I did. It never really occurred to me that I might actually be gay - even though I enjoyed watching gay porn! ![]() But when it became obvious that I was gay, it really didn't make sense to stay married. Am I glad that I have kids? Yes. Am I glad that I had those 10 years with my wife? Yes. Am I sad that I've caused them pain by breaking up our family? Yes. But would I have gotten married knowing I was gay? I don't think so.
__________________ Jim "It is never too late to be what you might have been." | |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: All but family Location: London Age: 29 Posts: 712 Join Date: Aug 2008 | Is it so wrong that i have considered this. Im not in any relationship at the moment but for the last 25 years of my life i have dreamed of having kids. (2 boys and a girl). Now i suppose this is all part and parcel of dealing with being gay but it is smething that has crossed my mind. Although i know that ethically i couldnt lie to my 'wife' because i couldnt forgive myself for that. It is a really intresting question though. |
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