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Thoughts on contradictory fantasies

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  1. Straight ally

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    Something i thought about after a conversation with a friend.

    Why do some lesbians and straight guys enjoy watching same sex porn between two men?, how can people fantasize about impossible thing they have never seen in real life? Why do sometimes, perfectly peaceful and empathic people enjoy watching gore? How can some get aroused on the idea of rape( either receiving it/giving it) , while they hate when it happens in real life? Why is causing havoc in grand thef auto so exhilarating? Why do we go to a theater to get scared with an horror movie?

    Maybe rules of the fantasy world differ from those in the real world, maybe it is that fantasies of awakened hours are as full of metaphors and hiperboles as the dreams we have when we sleep, maybe they mean something, and the meaning is not obvious, the misterious wordless words of our subconscious, blind images, loud silences.

    Maybe is human curiosity, a way of exploring new feelings and emotions without being in real risk, without having to feel any guilt. Or it might just be how we exercise our ancient primal parts of the brain, those we share with snakes and crocodiles, the limbic system.

    We break rules, we get outside the routine, we reach catharsis. Its a way of resting of yourself, i mean, i have always been me, im always me, i'm always going to be me, so its nice to be something completely different for a little while.

    And you ? What do you have to add o this topic ? What explanation /theory you have about this?
     
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    No one can punish you in your head. There are no restrictions. You can do anything that makes you feel good in your fantasies.
     
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    Alan Watts had a lot to say about the inner life of Mankind but on a written medium of communication this seemed apropos:

     
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    Primal images cause primal emotions. Doing dangerous things stirs primal emotions and adrenaline.
     
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    Um, good advice from alan
     
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    I believe some lesbians prefer gay male porn because it is more realistic, whereas lesbian porn is usually aimed at straight males and is not realistic at all.

    As for rape fantasies - I guess some people get of on the idea of 'having their way' with someone, likewise some people get off on the idea of being 'used against their will', but nobody is actually raping anyone in these scenarios, and nobody is actually distressed, so it's definitely not the same. I guess it's kind of like people who partake in BDSM - they get turned on from being whipped or handcuffed, but if they were really kidnapped, tied up and tortured, it wouldn't be very nice.
     
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    I think that if you indulge too far in stuff in your head it might show up in your life.
    Not necessarily soon or in a direct way but it might show.
    Like watching too much violence and getting indifferent...

    Thats why I think keeping a healthy balance is important.
    Indulging in fantasies but not too far.


    Also there is some kind of curiosity for certain stuff... but if you are really true you have some kind of inner voice warning you that you don't need that... I think heeding that in the right moment is a good thing.
    There are lots of harmonious things that if followed bring joy and peace in your life... instead of an unhealthy spike after spike of distatsteful sensations.

    If watching certain pictures I have flasbacks of them up to a day later. Thats why I keep that out of my life.
     
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    Fantasies tend to either be blatantly obvious, as in a gay guy fantasising about sex with a guy, or representative of something else in life, sexual or otherwise. They're not plans, not always realistic, and shouldn't be taken as such. Someone might have a rape fantasy, but that doesn't actually mean they want to be raped. I suppose fantasies are in some ways an exploration of the subconscious.
     
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    I have tons of fantasies that I could never really act out. I mean, I'm unlikely to turn into Beast Boy, and then fall in love with Robin and remain cartoon Teen Titans FOREVER. Or meet a friendly tentacle monster.

    Then again, there's a lotta stuff you can pretend to have happen, cos-play, puppy-play( as in where I'm the pup!)...I tend to have a kinda creative sex life, one might say, I like to explore being different people/animals/creatures, and play around with the typical roles, mix them up a bit.

    But I guess these really aren't contradictory, per se, just a few things that could never happen in reality, for the most part.
     
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    As for the gay male porn thing, I only like it because It's more realistic. I actually don't care for the visuals; just the scenery, and I can easily change the gender of the participants in my head. Most lesbians don't like lesbian porn because It's unrealistic and aimed toward straight men; It's actually kind of offensive to watch since usually a man is invited in, or the girls don't even look like they're enjoying it. What a turn-off!!!

    Rape fantasies have more to do with power. I sometimes fantasize about 'raping' someone, but am I a terrible criminal that would actually hurt someone? Hell no. I'm actually a huge activist against rape culture. My rape fantasies can be practiced upon in a consensual BDSM relationship.
     
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    Yes the subconcious is clearly participating in this, and they dont reflect literaly what you want. There is a girl who is friend of mine and she sometimes watch gory stuff, violent movies etc, but i have never been scared of her hurting me, actually she is tender and supportive... Now, You know what is interesting? Observing not only your fantasies but also paying attention to the pattern and how they get affected by life events.

    For example, i have always had violent fantasies, but they become more calm and pacific everytime my life becomes better, or when im particularly stressed they become more recurrent, so i realized that this fantasies where a way of releasing stress and acummulated anger and frustration. Now every time i get w violent fantasy i enjoy it and all but after i finish fantasizing i ask myself 'what is making me frustrated/angry/stressed right now? Is kind of therapeutic both because it helps releasing stuff but also helps detecting problems.
     
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    I like gay male porn because it looks real and it isn't fake like lesbian porn with all that over screaming and just plain bad acting . It seem like most lesbian porn were made for straight males to enjoy and not lesbians .
     
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    And i dont even like it that much..ok 4 boobies is nice but, the acting ruins things, this is why i prefer images, animated gifs and erotic literature.... Or even better... Imagination, at least on days my mind is not tired.
     
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    Erotic literature is way better when you want to enjoy sexual stuff about lesbians .
    But sometimes you want to watch people, have sex and when you do you look for the ones who seem to be really enjoying it .
     
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    Expanding on that erotic literature is just better in general.
     
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    I quit porn recently and now I just read erotic literature , but I do read manga that are mostly lesbian stories and occasionally some heterosexual ones even with sex scenes if the story is good .
     
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    I'm the same way, I like manga a lot, but only sometimes the hetero ones. I kind of like yaoi, but a lot of them are ridiculous with the whole seme/uke thing.
     
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    Yeah that's why I don't read yaoi I can't stand the seme /uke stuff .:dry:
    Wuggums do you know the one for lesbians ?