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Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Hexagon, Oct 7, 2014.

  1. Hexagon

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    Ther's something that has been irritating me today. What do the members of EC consider the appropriate response to a totalitarian dictatorship to be?
     
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    Well, it's in the title itself.......a Dictator who has total control over everything and every one.

    Pretty simple.
     
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    Depends on how you define dictator. I have friends accross the political spectrum and some are more accomandating on figures who I would consider Dictators.
     
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    Personally I think the best way to deal with a dictator such as Kim Jong Un would be to organize exodus efforts from their country. It might take military force or an underground railroad-style op, but if we could help the population who don't want to be there to leave the country (in NK's case it's probably everybody) then we wouldn't have to go through the motions of either taking him out for somebody else to assume power afterward, or letting his unspeakable cruelty go unchecked.
     
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    Kim Jong wakes up one morning and finds out everyone has left his country.
     
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    I once wrote in a piece of homework that it was the population's duty to overthrow a totalitarian dictator. I think my views on this are obvious.
     
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    Ability to overthrow a Dictatorship depends on the populations ability to be armed. Most Dictatorships do not have a 2nd Amendment.
     
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    Well as it is, NK is sort of a prison country where refugees have to sneak out through extremely intensive avenues. With a little foreign military aid, I'm betting Kim would lose control of his populace pretty quickly.
     
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    The historical reality is that Dictatorships usually only end because of war or the Dictator has a change of heart, example Spain.
     
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    The US has helped overthrow dictators of foreign countries many times and usually it doesn't help
     
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    De Oppresso Libre motto of US Special Forces, To liberate the oppressed.
     
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    Dictatorships are awful, I find them historically interesting (the USSR is the coolest part of history in my opinion) but I feel it's the worlds responsibility to try and get rid of dictators.
     
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    UN sucks at getting rid of Dictators. Also unfortunately what you and I describe as Dictators many in the UN would see no problem with. Communist China, North Korea, Cuba, etc
     
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    Depends, Is the dictator a good one, Like does he use his absolute power in order to help people or is he a cunt like most of the worlds dictators?
     
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    be their right hand man

    ---------- Post added 7th Oct 2014 at 09:51 AM ----------

    then EAT THEM
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    That is a very dangerous statement as many would say oh Stalin was a good Dictator or Hitler or Mussolini was
     
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    I was thinking more along the lines of Fidel Castro who did a fairly good job in retrospect.
     
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    Castro??? only murdered thousands and imprisoned thousands more.. True less then the 23 million Stalin killed or the 40 million Mao did but mass murder even on a small scale is mass murder. Yet he made nice schools for the survivors.
     
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    it depends on the nation in question and the historical context.
     
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    Castro was quite allot better than the corrupt government he replaced plus Cuba seems to be doing alright after him.

    Castro took over government after a massive economic recession created by his predecessor and he chose to favor a socialist society, modeling it after Russia and on a Leninist model. He took a bankrupt country, and despite multiple sanctions against his government (mostly by the USA might I add) he managed to increase the economic stability and created a boom.
    Castro is a great leader not because he has caused the death or internship of countless individuals, he is a great leader because he did what he felt he had to create a stable government to give the people as much as they deserved. Under Fidel, and now Raul Castro, Cuba has a literacy rate of 98.9%, a infant mortality rate of 6.1 per thousand, complete with universal health care and education; which is significantly more than what the USA has got. If a little country like that can make so much prosperity, why can't they do that with such a big country like the USA? He advocated to free other countries from their rulers, primarily South Africa, and South America (i.e., Bolivia), and constantly has government doctors sent over to third world countries that are in need of medical aid.
    He supports an entire country and its populace with as much as he can give them based off the revenue of nickel, cobalt, and tourism.
    I don't exactly condone his methods, but that's a great leader if I've ever seen one.

    Sorry I didnt write that but it makes some very good points, besides doesnt the USA and Cuba have a fairly rocky past? Im not trying to condone the deaths but instead trying to say that a good dictator might be possible under the right circumstances.