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Why must we be surrounded by constant ignorance, in regards to orientation, etc.

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  1. C P

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    Just as a note, this is more of a vent type of thing, that was sparked to memory because of recent happenings.

    I'm going to warn you though, prepare for a lengthy read. :badgrin:

    It's just ridiculous and frustrating sometimes how much of this still surrounds a lot of a us on a daily basis.

    My brother's cousin was visiting the other day and we had both hung out and decided to stay at a family friend's place one of the nights. At one point my charger cord was laying partly across my leg and when I said he could use it, he took it and was like 'no homo'. My fam friend had briefly said huh and her boyfriend, a cousin of mine, had said 'that's what all guys say so that stuff like that doesn't come across the wrong way'. It was annoying, but I was just like whatever.

    The real thing that irked the hell out of me was when I had woke up the next morning, not all all the way awake at first, and my brother's cousin(the one visiting) had gotten ready and he was on the phone with his girlfriend. They were talking about regular bf/gf stuff at first but sometime briefly after the topic switched to some bi person. He was leaving out right that moment but I did not forget the bullshit he said as he was going out the door:

    "It's not that I don't like gay people, just let one of them touch me or something. I will knock them so hard that they'll be wishing they were straight." ....talk about someone's blood boiling. :***:

    Just earlier, I was visiting an aunt and she was talking about a tablet and it reminded me of an incident recently with her son. I had laughed and brought up how he's started to take an interest in porn(I noticed the google search tabs for 'porn'/'boobs' on one of the iPad minis after he used it). So of course, after she mentioned that she guesses he's at that age, she had to throw in the comment that she did:

    "Well at least he isn't looking up something like two guys doing stuff. That's when I'd be worrying." After which my other aunt had to chime in with an 'ew'.

    If anyone remembers my recent thread about the whole 'what is this, random kindness week?', well I had mentioned all that to yet another relative. It reminded me of Valentine's Day earlier this year(I made a thread about this at the time), when I was at Starbucks, and how the guy who rang me up told me not to worry about it and apparently I got it free/he paid for it. They, of course, had made this absolutely disgusted face and said 'I bet you were all like I do not go that way...' Yeah, because I shouldn't be amused at the fact that it was a free drink; I should be concerned about it being a guy who gave it to me...>_>

    And this is just a couple more recent and notable examples. If it isn't them, it's some random others, like the guys who were playing football in the field the other day who got into an argument about something and threw some homophobic comments around.

    If you've read this far, you get my point by now. It's so freakin' annoying and, as anyone else who is still closeted or has had this kinda thing happen knows, can make for some really awkward/uncomfortable moments.

    Can we get away from this nonsense for one minute?
     
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    I know exactly how you feel! I always go home in a bad mood because every other conversation I have includes some sort of anti-gay slur! Those made me mad even before I considered myself trans or bi-curious because some of my best friends were bi. Why can't people just grow up and accept that LGBT happens? >.<'
     
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    I understand, there is also ignorance towards trans people which I am faced with every day
     
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    Yeah. I don't tell people for that very reason. People get weirded out when I cosplay as a girl, and I think it'd just get worse if they knew. >~<'
     
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    Yeah, these are just main recent examples that came to mind and why I added an etc. I don't recall hearing anything transphobic recently, but I have heard some things in the past. The only one I remember off the top of my mind though was a comment someone had made about Chaz Bono.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear this. I know it's frustrating - there are times when I really want to punch people, but then I remember that I'm in a position to show them that gay people are normal. I've found that the best way to educate people is with a smile and a laugh. Stay strong - one day we'll get there.
     
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    Sorry to hear that. Those comments really left a bad taste in my mouth, and unfortunately, they are everywhere.
     
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    Because people are borderline evil sometimes just plain evil.
     
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    Sometimes I wonder that...
     
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    I get your frustration. I do.

    However, I kind of like the open ignorance. The biggest reason being, it almost immediately tells me, if I could be a serious friend to somebody, when they open their mouths, and say something asinine.
     
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    I agree with this! It really shows you who you can trust to be a friend/support, and who you can't.
     
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    So you're 22. Your location is some great mystery. And you sit and listen to this tripe from " friends and family " ? Why not say something ? All my life I've gotten in trouble for saying SOMETHING . I'm not even 22 yet . I guess you can b & m about it or take a stand if it bothers you so much .
     
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    As I had mentioned in the other thread, get them around more LGBT people and they MAY change. Being that I'm very "straight acting"(ok hate the phrase, but whatever), I hear a lot of stuff. The stuff that was said about trans. people at a recent local council meeting regarding a non-discrimination ordinance was disturbing. One trans. woman was saying she couldn't use the bathroom anywhere except a few places that had unisex restrooms, so she had to buy a camper and urinate and defecate in a bag. A few speakers later, this old woman(I want to use a different word, but I don't use that word) said, "I don't care if you have to go poo-poo or pee-pee in a trailer. Suck it up." But it did make me more of a fighter for trans. rights. Like I already was since learning and becoming educated here, but I get pissed when people in my community can't even use the restroom at a McDonald's ffs.
     
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    Not sure what you're getting at here because I pretty much don't know anyone around who's lgbt, nor do I go to anything related, so there's nothing really to 'get them around more'. Not that I'd want to waste my time anyways.
     
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    I'm sorry. I assume that it's because don't care or bother to learn about people that aren't like them. They choose to be ignorant.
     
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    I think the problem with people like this is that they are so stupid that they have no idea how stupid they are.
     
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    One of my friends is an openly bi' person. When one of his friends said omething, he said the my bi' friend is a ljar because he was straight, then he was bi'. I mean, have you ever heard of coming out. Plus, he never id'ed as straight.
     
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    I don't know how I missed this reply, but mind me asking what age has to do with anything(or my location being a mystery, for that matter)? People discover this kinda stuff at different points and don't react the same way.

    If someone says something about marriage or that 'no homo' nonsense(little stuff I just consider irksome), I'm just whatever or chime in with a 'why does it matter'-like comment. If someone talks like how I've mentioned/quoted though(when it seems more...indirectly personal?), then it just makes for an uncomfortable/shitty moment, what with how I still feel about myself in that regard. About anything else and I would've said something because, like you, I've gotten in plenty of conflicts in the past because I tend to not let stuff just slide.

    The only reason I hadn't said anything to my brother's cousin is because he had left out at that exact moment and I wasn't going to chase after him over something stupid like that. Had he still been in the house, then, yeah, I would've said something.

    I just don't understand why it is so much of a focal point. Like the drink thing, she just zoned in instantaneously on the part that it was a 'guy' who rang me up and supposedly gave me the drink; forget the fact that it was free or that I was just continuing on my little list of random good stuff that happened. But of course it was oooh so sweet when I talked about that cashier girl at the pizza place who gave me free wings and placed a few dollars towards my order.
     
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    Folks are just mad, you're too sexy, and everybody wants to get you free stuff. You just tell them, their envy is cute.

    LOL.
     
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    The one thing I will say is that in my experience the main thing you can do to not be subjected to that sort of thing is to come out. I used to hear a fair amount of that sort of thing--OK it also was twenty, twenty-five years ago--but really don't any more, at all, ever. Haven't for years...