San Francisco?

Like a gay Mecca? :roflmao:

 

No. It's gotten obnoxiously corporate and gentrified, and a lot of the young gay people (and nontraditional people in general) have been priced out. Don't get me wrong, it's still very progressive, but it's not what it was 20 years ago.

 

We were there recently and loved it--not even in any particularly gay way but just everything about it was amazing. We are even looking at possibly trying to retire there but it will seriously add at least a half a million to our retirement budget--it consistently comes in as one of the three most expensive US cities to live in. We're still considering it though--it just had a certain feel to it that was amazing.

 

I went there two years ago and I don't think I'd live there if I could even afford it. It's so crowded and foggy and cold, not to mention the insane rent/house prices. It's a fun place to visit, and I'm hoping that I can make a trip out there specifically to sightsee in San Francisco (as the last two times I was there, I flew into SFO and drove through the city to the Golden Gate Bridge on the way to where my aunt lives).

 

I suspect that it's no longer as portrayed in this beautiful song, then:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=[YOUTUBE]mJ_WG3d3GL8[/YOUTUBE]

 

I heard a lot of gays and lesbians are leaving San francisco .:dry:

 

I wish they would all come to Melbourne. We need more here.

 

I want them to come to Connecticut too

 

Just because there's lots of gays there, does not make it any more amiable than any other large, stinking, dirty, corrupt city.

I have been there a few times, for work related reasons.

It's a big, dirty, stinking city. Literally. Garbage blowing all over the place, and it smells nasty.

The Embarcadero is a nice long walk, but nothing is really on it but a very few shops and places to eat.

Market Street is a long walk too, but is loud and filthy. Hell, I walked past a homeless guy taking a SHIT in the middle of the sidewalk, with TWO police cars passing by that did NOTHING!!!!

If you go for shopping, then Union Square is pretty nice. Lots of upper scale stores there.

Other than that, it's just another vile place that I never want to go back too.

And I have heard SO many horror stories about living there.......

I despise California all together as it is. Only two kinds of people there......
ones that want to steal from you, and ones that want to kill you.

 

de gustibus non est disputandum

I don't think you could pay me enough to live in Texas, but there are some very silly things you've written here about California. I mean, really.

There's 30 million people here, this nonsense about "two kinda of people here" is just remarkably insulting.

 

Wow, that has to be one of the stupidest things I've ever read on this site.

 

You could just shorten it all to "I don't like California." and leave it at that. I don't like California either, but it doesn't have just two kinds of people.

Does something have you in a rotten mood MisterSparkles? I've never seen you type like this.

 

My friend from Iowa interned at a famous church over there and thoroughly loved Orange County. Several of my professors went to Pepperdine, then went to my school, and later moved back there to teach. I'd say other than South Central LA, it seems like a great place to live just lots of $$$. Of course, full disclosure, never been there. My aunt, uncle, and cousins loved S.F. though.

 

It's a city

Meh

 

This.

It's a mecca for entrepreneurs, corporate types, and trust fund types. The chasm of the very rich and the "poor" (meaning those who cannot even afford living modestly) has widened.

I once lived in its far flung suburbs that felt nothing like the city or its surroundings. It was like a non-experience.

I like going for a visit as a tourist. I don't like it for any extended period of time. I don't like the vibe. Those who end up in the Bay Area either dig in if they have the money, dig in and tighten the belt to make it work, or leave.

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I think you're right. They are leaving San Francisco for a lot of different places. There's no set pattern.

 

I've been there thrice and I think that it's an amazing city and definitely one of my favorites in the U.S. I could really see myself living there.

 

I'd definitely agree. And as it continues to do so, it's also growing less liberal, in various subtle and not so subtle ways.

But the main problem, is that it's becoming another playground for the rich.

A nice place to visit, but there's many other gay friendly cities I'd choose first. Plus, I found the people there to be a bit on the shallow/flaky/superficial side, and they seemed very image obsessed. Or $ obsessed. (no, not everyone, but it seemed to have that vibe) Seemed like a good place to find hook-ups, as opposed to relationships. Not for me.

Also: I never saw so many stereotypical gays in my life. For all the crowing about 'diversity', it seemed pretty cookie-cutter in the gay areas.

Go to Berlin, instead.

 

True about better LGBT cities than S.F. There are many others, even in the U.S.

True about shallow/superficial and obsessed with image or money ... more so than not.

True about the hook-up vibe.

True about the diversity being fairly homogenous. There was a term "the Castro clone" and some people still embrace that "look."

No thanks to S.F. as far as wanting to live there.