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Penis-in-vagina sex is always rape

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Straight ally, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. Straight ally

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    TRIGGER WARNING

    No, i don't actually believe this, but the people at this blog, do believe just that.

    https://factcheckme.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/its-just-piv/

    Is not like everything they said is wrong, they got me thinking, but they went to extreme... And if you read the comments, that is when you really see the radicalism

    Just loo at some some comments
     

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    Just look at some comments.
     

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    That article was so disjointed I could barely understand it
     
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    Reminds me of the time someone on another forum told me that having a penis makes you a "potential rapist".

    There should be a trigger warning in this thread.
     
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    The fuck?
     
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    Radical feminists are just as ridiculous as radicals from any other group. Not surprising. But I can't really take anything said in that article seriously; these views are a small minority of people and they're just as insane as people who think the world is flat.
     
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    Goodness, trigger warning for this thread.
    That whole article is a bunch of confusing non-sense in my opinion.
     
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    Ok, i will add it, but first, what kind of trigger you mean? The rape topic?
     
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    um... What the....
     
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    Forget, it i just added TRIGGER WARNING... As 2 poster have already asked for a warning.
    That is enought reason to add a trigger warning
     
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    Yes, and thank you. :slight_smile:
     
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    As a radical feminist, I disagree. I've defined sex and rape elsewhere.

    I also think it's important to engage with people's views rather than make assumptions about their views from the label they adopt. That's pretty intellectually lazy.
     
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    I take offense to the statement the article in the OP makes.

    All women I've been with with in my life seemed to be intent on forcing my cock into their vaginas, often before we had even discussed this critical topic! They way they demanded that I be their tool of satisfaction and inside them scarred me for life!

    .... I kid.
     
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    They got a point: heterosexual intercourse is riskier for women than to men... But saying that all men do it to harm women is waaay exagerated... Anything that is not celibacy or certain safe sexual acts is risky for both participants, in any case you can accuse men of being too reckless, but saying that they do it with the purpose of dominating or hurting women is... I dont even have words...

    I want to have vaginal sex for one only reason... A secret reason that no one would guess in a million years... But i will reveal it today.... I want it cause its pleasurable! and if done both correctly and consensualy it is supposed to be enjoyable to both participants!

    Also this sort of school of thought belittles real issues that women have to confront... Like ummm... Actual sexual harassment, violence against women and all that...
     
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    #NotTrueFeminist.
     
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    while this argument isn't valid anymore (in the West), it was historically valid at one point, specifically when wives were considered property and chattel as opposed to agents and ends in and of themselves. There are periods in history (and if you really want to you rpobably can argue this argument is valid in certain areas in the world) when PIV was rape.

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    for example, I don't think anyone would dispute that the "relationship" between Thomas Jefferon and Salley Hemmings was one in which Jefferson raped Hemings because Jefferson owned her. In historical contexts in which wives are owned by their husbands, the same line of reasoning applies.

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    while I have my own issues with 2nd wave Rad-Fems (specifically TERFs) I do have to agree that dismissing an argument because you're assuming their position is of the radfem you're being intellectually lazy
     
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    Ridiculous! - there, I've said it

    if it's consentual, then it's clearly not rape.
     
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    I think the women who wrote this hate men , and I don't think Penis in vagina sex is rape , some women in fact enjoy .
    The only thing I don't like about the whole penis in vagina sex thing is it's considered, to be the only sex you can have or considered to be real sex ;While everything else is not sex that doesn't include a penis in the act that's,and the only thing that bothered me about how society put it on a pedestal .

    But I'm a feminist ,and I can't stand radical feminist they gave the feminist movement a bad name and they were also the ones who made feminism get the bad image it gets to today . With there whole political lesbianism nonsense . :tantrum:

    I get the feeling some of them might be lesbians by choice .
     
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    Sounds like the author hasn't gotten laid in a while...