Should Vapes Be Allowed on Public Transit (or everywhere?)

Vaping smells. Granted, I'm fairly sensitive, but it can get intense especially in an enclosed space. Also, the smoke from e-cigs DOES contain harmful chemicals. It's not as bad as regular cigarettes, but it's not good.

Study: Second-hand smoke from e-cigarettes contains toxic metals | Fox News
E-Cigs and Second-Hand Vaping | Bill Chameides
Smoke from E-Cigs Still Poses Some Second-Hand Risk | TIME.com

So no, vaping should not be allowed on buses, in schools, cafes, or other public places.

 

Yes, vaping should be allowed in private places. It sucks when I can not vape in a restaurant. Yes, they have chemicals but the real danger of getting second hand smoke from vape is virtually non existant. It is very unlikely. Not nearly as bad as tobacco smoke. It is unfair! And I don't think it affects people with asthma. I could be wrong on this last point.

 

What gets me is not the amount of smoke people blow but the amount of money. A friend of mine bought a 2 piece gold set for $200..... I mean geeeez

 

Yeah you can spend a lot of money on vapes. And the ones that produce big clouds can be annoying... so that might be a big reason for all the bands. But the small ones are actually cheaper than cigs. I bought a kit for $30. And I usually buy vape juice and coils every two weeks. And I only spend $12 for three juices and $10 for a pack of coils every 2 weeks. So I'm not out that much money.

 

Ehhhh. I know someone ridiculously sensitive to smells due to allergies, and vapes in an enclosed space give her migraines. But so does cologne, so that's not really a sticking point. But I'm going to say no, they shouldn't be allowed.

'Increased levels of toxic metals' in e-cigarette secondhand smoke - Medical News Today

For anyone that doesn't want to click through,

So, sorry smokers, nope. This isn't your safe alternative.

 

I'm of the unpopular opinion that e-cigs/e-hookahs should be banned from the same areas that regular cigarettes are banned.
To me, it's not about the smell or the chemicals.
Some of them look very similar to regular cigarettes, and staff in bars, on public transport etc.. have enough to do without worrying about whether someone is smoking an electric or a real cigarette.

Also, for people who choose to quit without e-cigarettes, they find it difficult to be around people who are performing that "smoking movement". Especially in a confined space.
Often smokers are just as addicted to the movement of smoking as they are to the nicotine.

I'm totally fine with smoking in general though, as long as people can get away from it if they don't like it.

 

I'll come out and say it: I'm a giant pothead.

That said, no, vaping should not be allowed in public spaces. Good chron danks hardcore, and vapourizers are not carcinogen-free. Your friend is not considering anybody else--from those who have asthma or young children to those travelling to a job interview.

It's also straight up pathetic. How long could the commute possibly be? 90 minutes? You can't even make the argument in that period of time that he would require it medicinally.

I'm a big fan of the social contract. You should not do something in public that somebody else cannot remove themselves from comfortably. If you're riding a bus and having a vape session, you're a juvenile, delinquent fuck regardless of what the law says.

 

I'd also say it should not be allowed. It really seems similar to smoking to me.

 

I personally find vaping in confined public spaces to be rude.

Simply put, I'd rather not be breathing in other people's second hand vapor. If I'm smoking/vaping something, I'd rather it be my choice, not chance.

 

I posted 3 links on how 2nd hand smoke from vaping is harmful. Keep your toxins away from me, thanks.

 

I hate to say it but no, I don't think so. I haven noticed that vaping has become quite popular but I still do think they should remain outdoors unless the facility is okay with it.

 

No, it's called common courtesy. People shouldn't be subject to second hand smoke just because they have to ride the bus. People can wait until they get outside to smoke.

 

I vape, but I don't think it should okay for use in buses, restaurants and the like. Bars, sure. Designated vaping lounges? Sure. I wouldn't use my e-cig in a classroom or, if I worked, in an office. Then again, I am using it to reduce regular smoke us and quit altogether. I'm lowering the nicotine dose until it's zero and then I'll wean myself off the habit.



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But also, this:
"The metal particles likely come from the cartridge of the e-cigarette devices themselves - which opens up the possibility that better manufacturing standards for the devices could reduce the quantity of metals in the smoke. Studies of this kind are necessary for implementing effective regulatory measures."

 

I think vaping, e-cigs, e-hookas, pot cigaretts and any other similar drug ingested by smoking or vaping (yes they are ALL drugs) should be banned anywhere tobacco cigarettes are banned.

 

True. My point was that currently, they aren't safer. And good luck with yours Can I ask, why vape instead of nicorette?

 

Fox News and Time aren't really reliable sources. Idk what your other source is. I'll have to check out the credibility. Whoever posted the link to medical news... that sounds possibly credible. So I'll check that out. I could do some more research on newer studies, that is true. As long as they are credible sources, though. But even if there is a chance of getting second hand smoke (it is vapor anyway, not smoke, but second hand vapor....) it is still a lot less than getting second hand smoke from cigs. I'm not saying, no way, you can't breath in any chemicals ever... and I'll do more research to see if this has changed. But it is less of a threat than cigs. But you do have a valid point, if you don't want to be around vape, you shouldn't have to be.... But sorry to say, I'll keep vaping in restaurants that do allow it. I don't make a fuss if they don't allow it. I just really don't see much of an argument against them though. Again, I only believe reliable sources.

 

My friend vapes in the car with me all the time; I end up breathing in a lot of it. It definitely can create a lot of odor and second-hand "vapor" in the air. That is just in the car with the two of us. In a crowded mass transit situation, no way, I would never agree to that. People can leave their drugs until after they get off. That's why long bus and train rides and such sometimes have smoking breaks--it should be confined to that. It's bad enough having to smell other people on the bus (I sat next to a guy on the train who had just come back from lacrosse practice and had to smell his BO for 2 hours), inhaling smoke/vapor is taking it too far.