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Dazed · 13th Nov 2008, 03:42 PM

well it seems to me that gay guys get the worst of the homophobic actions when it comes to being open about themselves in public. i understand girls get hated on too but most people think gay girls are hot. all my guy friends "dont like gays" then turn around and say two girls together is hot. are they just stupid or is there some double standard that i missed.. i for one find boy love very cute. :]

musican · 13th Nov 2008, 04:40 PM

I think that's true too. Gay guys (at least in my experience) seem to be treated worse than gay women. I think it's because of the strong social idea that guys have to be masculine. I think that social standards arent as strong for girls as they are for guys; guys have to be athletic and masculine, but for girls it is acceptable to be feminine or athletic.

13th Nov 2008, 04:42 PM

Oh it's definitely true. But like has been said, gay girls are hot. It's a societal double standard.

BlueRose · 13th Nov 2008, 05:18 PM

It's because the men who find two women hot vastly outnumber and/or overpower women who find two men hot. Combined with the fixed societal roles for men vs the more fluid ones for women.

Beth · 13th Nov 2008, 05:21 PM

i must say its my male gay friends who encounter the most abuse tbh.
what i find when it comes to lesbians is its the more butch ones that get given grief

Level N Human · 13th Nov 2008, 05:24 PM

That's true, the butch lesbians get grief for being "gross" or something. But there is a double-standard and many straight men are more accepting of gay women just because it's "hot" and seems to serve a purpose to them.

I actually think two guys is pretty sexy too.
But straight couples don't seem to elicit a response from me.
Go figure.

13th Nov 2008, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Level N Human

That's true, the butch lesbians get grief for being "gross" or something. But there is a double-standard and many straight men are more accepting of gay women just because it's "hot" and seems to serve a purpose to them.

I actually think two guys is pretty sexy too.
But straight couples don't seem to elicit a response from me.
Go figure.

Me too.

13th Nov 2008, 05:47 PM

here in the upper peninsula of michigan its the same. two girls making out in a bar is hot to the straight males that are mentally still in high school.
but two guys just scares them because you know that all gay men in the area want them.......

Kryz · 13th Nov 2008, 09:53 PM

It's a fact.

I think it's bcoz of the masculine world we live on...

n8i2c7k · 13th Nov 2008, 10:19 PM

I think most of the grief goes to the gay guys because most of the grief comes from STRAGHT guys. Thinking about all the testosterone in guys it kinda makes sense that guys would do it more because theyre more aggressive. They need to assert themsellves and look macho and all that jazz.

So looking at it from that prosepective it does make some sense. Straight guys find girls attractive so the more the merrier. Guys think that two girls making out is hot because girls making out in general is hot. So they have no problem with lesbians unless, like other people said, the ones who are more butch get grief.

Straight guys dont like GAY guys because well, they dont think guys are attractive. Because of this, seeing two guys making out is...uncomfortable. They dont like guys making out with each other and stuff. It could also be due to fear of their own homosexual tendencies or potential, the fact that it could happen to them maybe?

I dont know. Im gay. I cant speak for the straight, close-minded, idiotic homophobes. But mainly i think straight guys are more prone to giving grief to gay GUYS and not women because its gay guys are of the same gender.

Kimi · 14th Nov 2008, 11:23 AM

True.

But living in Japan, you'll realize whole "gay" thing is ignored.
No one really talks about it...

And straight jp guys aren't that into girl-on-girl actions...

ProfessorLepus · 14th Nov 2008, 12:26 PM

When I went to that weirdo Christian "school", I saw this all the time. My guy friends who didn't know I was gay would talk about how gay guys are icky or whatever, and sometimes how they're all going to be thrown into a pit of fire when the new white Jesus comes along to bring all right-wing nutters up to the clouds with him.

Mention 2+ chicks in bed, and their hands disappear and they ask to hear more. Weirdos.

And if you want to say, "Oh, they must not be real friends!", that is utter crap. Of course they're friends, but like any human being, there are certain things I could tell them that could cause my relationship with them to disintegrate. They're idiots, but I love them.

kramer362 · 14th Nov 2008, 03:52 PM

It's just guys trying to be macho and fit in, in that way. Sure some might find it hot, but a lot probably aren't particularly turned on by lesbians. It's like an unannounced competition certain types of guys are constantly having, seeing who can one-up all their friends with how masculine and alpha male they sound. Gotta bench the most, get the most ass, have the same conversation about how disgusting fags are a hundred times, point out the really fucking obvious when they see a hot girl and go into detail about what they wanna do to her, etc.

In a perfect world, people wouldn't have to put on this stupid act just to fit in with their friends. You're supposed to be yourself around your friends...

With that said, I think it looks better when two women kiss than a guy and a girl. Of course I'm gay, so two guys is my first choice... I think I just like same-sex relationships in general.

bleep · 14th Nov 2008, 05:05 PM

Definitely true, for all the reasons given. Gay guys tend to cop more here (Australia) than gay girls.

Dazed · 14th Nov 2008, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimi

True.

But living in Japan, you'll realize whole "gay" thing is ignored.
No one really talks about it...

And straight jp guys aren't that into girl-on-girl actions...

i should move to Japan. :] anytime ive ever kissed a girl people stare..it kinf of makes kissing in public a thing i tend to avoid.

annd i love love love your signature.

thespanishheart · 14th Nov 2008, 06:06 PM

I have to say that I've seen a lot of guys take some crap for being gay, or for being suspected of being gay. It's just stupid and I hate it. Why can't people just worry about themselves?

I also find boy love to be one of the cutest things on the planet

killthedirector · 14th Nov 2008, 06:52 PM

there's definetly a double standard.
and it works both ways.

guys will think two guys are disgusting whilst two girls are hot.
girls will think two girls are disgusting whilst two guys are hot.

and i guess it's because they're afraid the homosexuals of their gender are going to come after them.
because we're everywhere.
lol.

George · 14th Nov 2008, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kimi

True.

But living in Japan, you'll realize whole "gay" thing is ignored.
No one really talks about it...

And straight jp guys aren't that into girl-on-girl actions...

日本 is truly a haven...

TheRoof · 15th Nov 2008, 01:23 PM

very true,
gay girls are more tolerated by people i think
than gay guys, tho idk the real reason.

15th Nov 2008, 01:37 PM

This subject came up in our health class once lol - although it was one of the idiots asking for a joke the teacher gave a pretty decent answer. He said that for alot of straight guys their ultimate fantasy is to be with two girls at once and two chicks together kind of represent this to them, but no way are they going to want to be with two guys at once unless they are gay and then all this isn't an issue.
Also majority of straight girls don't want to be with two guys at once so they don't' find gay guys as hot as guys find two girls together.

Hope that makes sense I seem to be rambling a bit.

13th Nov 2008, 03:42 PM	#1
Dazed Banned Gender: ladyfella Orientation: MaddyBensexual Out Status: out to all :] Location: Richmond VA Age: 24 Posts: 2,189 Join Date: Mar 2007	is this true for you... well it seems to me that gay guys get the worst of the homophobic actions when it comes to being open about themselves in public. i understand girls get hated on too but most people think gay girls are hot. all my guy friends "dont like gays" then turn around and say two girls together is hot. are they just stupid or is there some double standard that i missed.. i for one find boy love very cute. :]

13th Nov 2008, 04:40 PM	#2
musican EC's Resident DJ Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: "I wanna kiss a boy" Out Status: family and facebook Location: (Not the city), New York Age: 20 Posts: 3,832 Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: is this true for you... I think that's true too. Gay guys (at least in my experience) seem to be treated worse than gay women. I think it's because of the strong social idea that guys have to be masculine. I think that social standards arent as strong for girls as they are for guys; guys have to be athletic and masculine, but for girls it is acceptable to be feminine or athletic. __________________ How I miss our love when the winter surrounds me icicle teardrops.

13th Nov 2008, 04:42 PM	#3
Midnight Angel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is this true for you... Oh it's definitely true. But like has been said, gay girls are hot. It's a societal double standard.

13th Nov 2008, 05:18 PM	#4
BlueRose Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Georgia Age: 21 Posts: 197 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: is this true for you... It's because the men who find two women hot vastly outnumber and/or overpower women who find two men hot. Combined with the fixed societal roles for men vs the more fluid ones for women.

13th Nov 2008, 05:21 PM	#5
Beth EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Everyone but extended family Age: 21 Posts: 281 Join Date: Aug 2008	Re: is this true for you... i must say its my male gay friends who encounter the most abuse tbh. what i find when it comes to lesbians is its the more butch ones that get given grief

13th Nov 2008, 05:24 PM	#6
Level N Human Deluxe Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Fag-ette. Out Status: Most friends Age: 22 Posts: 816 Join Date: Jul 2007	Re: is this true for you... That's true, the butch lesbians get grief for being "gross" or something. But there is a double-standard and many straight men are more accepting of gay women just because it's "hot" and seems to serve a purpose to them. I actually think two guys is pretty sexy too. But straight couples don't seem to elicit a response from me. Go figure. __________________ If we hit that bullseye the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards... checkmate.

13th Nov 2008, 05:47 PM	#8
greyundrstndng Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is this true for you... here in the upper peninsula of michigan its the same. two girls making out in a bar is hot to the straight males that are mentally still in high school. but two guys just scares them because you know that all gay men in the area want them.......

13th Nov 2008, 09:53 PM	#9
Kryz EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: 95% gay 4% lesbian 1% polyester. Out Status: 7 friends and my mum. Location: Mexico City Age: 23 Posts: 659 Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: is this true for you... It's a fact. I think it's bcoz of the masculine world we live on... __________________ Nobody wants to be alone, everybody wants to love someone... ♪ Glitter and be gay... That's the part I play... ♫ It's SO not a choice. But if it were, I would choose to be gay.

13th Nov 2008, 10:19 PM	#10
n8i2c7k Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few friends Location: Hawaii Age: 21 Posts: 192 Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: is this true for you... I think most of the grief goes to the gay guys because most of the grief comes from STRAGHT guys. Thinking about all the testosterone in guys it kinda makes sense that guys would do it more because theyre more aggressive. They need to assert themsellves and look macho and all that jazz. So looking at it from that prosepective it does make some sense. Straight guys find girls attractive so the more the merrier. Guys think that two girls making out is hot because girls making out in general is hot. So they have no problem with lesbians unless, like other people said, the ones who are more butch get grief. Straight guys dont like GAY guys because well, they dont think guys are attractive. Because of this, seeing two guys making out is...uncomfortable. They dont like guys making out with each other and stuff. It could also be due to fear of their own homosexual tendencies or potential, the fact that it could happen to them maybe? I dont know. Im gay. I cant speak for the straight, close-minded, idiotic homophobes. But mainly i think straight guys are more prone to giving grief to gay GUYS and not women because its gay guys are of the same gender. __________________

14th Nov 2008, 11:23 AM	#11
Kimi EC's Biggest Horndog Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Japan Age: 22 Posts: 3,017 Join Date: Feb 2007	Re: is this true for you... True. But living in Japan, you'll realize whole "gay" thing is ignored. No one really talks about it... And straight jp guys aren't that into girl-on-girl actions... __________________ AMAZINGLY, I GET HOTTER WITH MY CLOTHES OFF

14th Nov 2008, 12:26 PM	#12
ProfessorLepus Colgate Rabbit Dentist Full Member Gender: Mail Orientation: Ghey Out Status: I don't lie. Location: Austin, TX Age: 20 Posts: 445 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: is this true for you... When I went to that weirdo Christian "school", I saw this all the time. My guy friends who didn't know I was gay would talk about how gay guys are icky or whatever, and sometimes how they're all going to be thrown into a pit of fire when the new white Jesus comes along to bring all right-wing nutters up to the clouds with him. Mention 2+ chicks in bed, and their hands disappear and they ask to hear more. Weirdos. And if you want to say, "Oh, they must not be real friends!", that is utter crap. Of course they're friends, but like any human being, there are certain things I could tell them that could cause my relationship with them to disintegrate. They're idiots, but I love them. __________________ Anonymity I can not run forever Google will find me

14th Nov 2008, 03:52 PM	#13
kramer362 EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: western new york Age: 26 Posts: 400 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: is this true for you... It's just guys trying to be macho and fit in, in that way. Sure some might find it hot, but a lot probably aren't particularly turned on by lesbians. It's like an unannounced competition certain types of guys are constantly having, seeing who can one-up all their friends with how masculine and alpha male they sound. Gotta bench the most, get the most ass, have the same conversation about how disgusting fags are a hundred times, point out the really fucking obvious when they see a hot girl and go into detail about what they wanna do to her, etc. In a perfect world, people wouldn't have to put on this stupid act just to fit in with their friends. You're supposed to be yourself around your friends... With that said, I think it looks better when two women kiss than a guy and a girl. Of course I'm gay, so two guys is my first choice... I think I just like same-sex relationships in general.

14th Nov 2008, 05:05 PM	#14
bleep EC Addict Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Queensland, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 305 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: is this true for you... Definitely true, for all the reasons given. Gay guys tend to cop more here (Australia) than gay girls. __________________ "What do you mean you don't believe in homosexuality? It's not like the Easter Bunny; your belief isn't necessary." ~ Lea DeLaria

14th Nov 2008, 06:06 PM	#16
thespanishheart EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Not out at all Location: Tampa Bay, FL Age: 22 Posts: 417 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: is this true for you... I have to say that I've seen a lot of guys take some crap for being gay, or for being suspected of being gay. It's just stupid and I hate it. Why can't people just worry about themselves? I also find boy love to be one of the cutest things on the planet

14th Nov 2008, 06:52 PM	#17
killthedirector n00b of death Regular Member Gender: female, but flexible. Orientation: queer. Out Status: everyone, pretty much. Location: rvk. Age: 21 Posts: 30 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: is this true for you... there's definetly a double standard. and it works both ways. guys will think two guys are disgusting whilst two girls are hot. girls will think two girls are disgusting whilst two guys are hot. and i guess it's because they're afraid the homosexuals of their gender are going to come after them. because we're everywhere. lol.

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TheRoof True Blue Full Member Gender: genderqueer Orientation: I like who I like. Location: NY Age: 20 Posts: 1,452 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: is this true for you... very true, gay girls are more tolerated by people i think than gay guys, tho idk the real reason.

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Hidden Angel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: is this true for you... This subject came up in our health class once lol - although it was one of the idiots asking for a joke the teacher gave a pretty decent answer. He said that for alot of straight guys their ultimate fantasy is to be with two girls at once and two chicks together kind of represent this to them, but no way are they going to want to be with two guys at once unless they are gay and then all this isn't an issue. Also majority of straight girls don't want to be with two guys at once so they don't' find gay guys as hot as guys find two girls together. Hope that makes sense I seem to be rambling a bit.