Homosexuality and the Bible

Thanks for the link. Looks like a good read!

 

This is a really cool website, a great thing for people who come out to their christian parents to share with them! Thanks for posting!

 

This is a nice website, very informative for all Christians and also is a great resource for LGBT Christians who wish to share this information with ill informed parents.

 

The thing about the Bible is, it's been rewritten so many billions of times over, nobody really knows what the original really said.

Every time its rewritten, words get changed, sentences get added or cut, and paragraphs get reshaped.

So, for all any of us living in the here and now know, the Bible could have been a propaganda tool for pure evil.


Oh, wait.......it still is.

 

To each their own.

 

Thanks for sharing. Though I am familiar with many of these ideas it is good to review them again.

 

Outlier, I have to be completely honest with you. As a Christian who struggles with homosexual attractions myself, I have studied the matter deeply. I've seen these arguments before, and I honestly cannot buy into them. They require way too much gymnastics and a way too many leaps of logic to make the Bible say something other than it really does. It should not be that hard or require that much effort to debunk what the Bible says about homosexuality being a sin. In my estimation, homosexuality is clearly defined as sin in the Bible. Now, no one has to believe or accept that, and I won't judge anyone whose beliefs differ from my own. But I just think we as Christians need to be honest with ourselves when it comes to the Bible, even when it comes to the parts of the Bible we don't like. Instead of trying to change the Bible to fit our lives, I think we should be trying to change our lives to fit the Bible. If not, it loses all authority to guide us.

 

I'm a christian but I don't take the bible word for word because it was written by man

 

Responding to Zane7's comment. Christianity is one of many religions. As I was standing and reflecting at a Buddhist shrine in Thailand, a man standing next to me, said, Christianity is a desert religion, young and still evolving. At a tea house he told me about Buddhism which fosters acceptance and love.

 

IT is but sadly there is no way to change their minds even though it is well done research and organization it still does nothing to them. TI is like the need to hate and divide people gives them more pleasure than reality. I am not attacking Zane7 with that comment I am just talking about homophobic christians in general. I don't deny things in the bible to make myself feel good and I wouldn't deny homosexuals acts were a sin if I truly believed that.

 

Outlier, you are right. It comes down to trust. I trust that the Bible is the inspired Word of God, and I trust that God was present during its various translations throughout history. If God could get the inspired words down through his agents, then He could also maintain the sanctity of those words during the translation process.

 

This why i don't believe in any kind of church however I do have respect for some ministers and their churches who speak the truth. I think we are better off doing the real research ourselves. Like I said before I don't deny things in the bible to make myself feel good it is because I believe alternative evidence and take it to heart.

 

1 Timothy 3:16 says all Scripture (ALL of it) is God-breathed and inspired by the Holy Spirit. I believe that when it comes to the Bible, God did not allow humans to tamper with his message. Many surely tried, but I don't think their contributions ever made it into final scriptural canon. God himself is equated His Word in John 1. God is not going to allow humans to corrupt His message to mankind. He might as well allow them to corrupt His very nature. If we cannot trust the Bible, then we are a sad people indeed.

 

Whether or not the bible is homophobic, the people who wrote it would have been as it was written centuries ago. Tbh it's says lots of shit in the bible that people ignore. If your going to be a christian you might as well be one of those nice Christians who believe in the principles of Jesus like giving to the poor etc... Instead of taking every verse as law and trying to promote bronze age values.
(I tried to make this as least offensive as possible, please don't ban me from this thread)

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There is many assumptions there:

1). The bible is the word of god.
2). People can understand god's message.
3). God cared about how it was translated.
4). People listened to God.
5). People didn't change what god told them.
6). People who did not hear God change the text after it was written.
etc....

and if you trust that god stop all of these. Why? Why would he?

 

The thing about any English version of the bible. All of them word the sentences differently. Wouldn't that be enough to question it's accuracy. I think it would. The point is not whether we question how God's word it is that we question man's interpretation of God's word.

Anyway whether homosexual sins is a sin or not we have to think of how educated people were back than on issues relating to women and homosexuals. If something does not seem natural to them they may be have been biased towards it. Christianity is a complex subject and and honestly it would takes years of debate and study that we probably would be gone by the time we succeeded. Another truth is there are so many old testament laws out there that it would be easy for anyone to break them. Another question would be why is homosexual acts not included in the ten commandments if God really condemned those acts would they be in there.

 

Dano, wording a statement in a different and completely subverting the original message are two totally different things. You say people back then were less educated than they were today, and you imply that scriptural truth could've suffered because of that deficit. The problem with that mindset, however, is that it focuses first on man's influence on scripture while marginalizing God's. There is no denying that imperfect people penned the Bible, but the miracle is that God was able to work perfectly through imperfect people via the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. If we can say that the Bible is flawed in regards to homosexuality then such faith becomes a slippery slope where the Bible can be made to say anything with a little maneuvering. That kind of wishy-washy faith just doesn't sound appealing to me.