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Straight boy mentality: Lesbians are hot, Gays are gross...

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by MotelGuy, Mar 31, 2015.

  1. MotelGuy

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    I'm sick of having to encounter this double standard...A lot of straight boys like to see two girls kissing, and say that it's "sexy", and when they see two guys kissing, they call it "gross"...Many of my co-workers are like this, they even have lesbian porn on their phones...Of course that's a straight boy's point of view, a straight girl most likely thinks differently...Anyone else notice this? And how do lesbians feel about it?

    I hope this doesn't sound like I hate lesbians, because I don't...It's those damn straight boys that piss me off...
     
  2. Gandee

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    Yes, naturally, I noticed that too.
    I always feel uncomfortable when I have to watch a movie with a gay couple with my straight friends, as if their homophobia is contagious.
     
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    What about gay guys who think guys kissing are sexy but find lesbian kissing icky?
     
  4. Well, from what I've heard, some straight girls like seeing man-on-man (the thought process: 2 hot guys > 1 hot guy), but most really don't because they know there's nothing to really get out of it ('I can't really put myself in one of their shoes'). A lot of straight guys, on the other hand, think there's something to get out of woman-on-woman ('I wanna join in') when there isn't. Plus, many straight guys don't necessarily respect lesbians as people insomuch as they sexualise them.

    As for lesbians, I can't really vouch for them. We need a lesbian perspective in this thread.

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    Well, to be fair, a lot of lesbians don't find lesbian porn sexy because of how contrived it is and how its target audience is straight men.

    I don't know if gay guys necessarily think two girls kissing is 'icky' insomuch as there's nothing really there in terms of getting hot and bothered. But for the ones who do, that's...equally as crazy and, dare I say it, narrow-minded.
     
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    Yes I noticed this and edited my post before your response was posted xD. I noticed this is more about kissing than porn. How the mind wonders.... I don't think most gay guys find lesbian kissing gross but may find lesbian porn gross but I realize that's not the topic so never mind :slight_smile:!
     
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    Individuals like this, typically do not respect a woman's sexuality, and assume that she can off and do whatever she wants, but when it is time to be available to him, she had best be ready.

    Femininity is exploited, masculinity is prized. Two women being together, it provides a stimulation or pleasure. Two men being together, well, this distorts the whole masculine image.

    That's about as condensed as I can make it, without getting elaborate.
     
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    I thought it was a lot more simple than that. I thought that because it's usually heterosexual males making these remarks, they are ok with lesbians because they are attracted to the women and not ok with gay kissing because they are not attracted to men. I never took it as any deeper homophobia or anything?
     
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    For some, it may be that simple. In general though, whether or not anybody realizes this, it all seems to go back to sexism. Homophobia, much of it, is influenced by sexism, especially the emphasis on traditional gender roles.
     
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    Because straight guys are all "expected" to be gross out that isn't what they see as masculine or the "nature" of what straight guys should find attractive. Straight guys have the most sensitive egos out there. Have you ever asked who their favourite Disney Princesses are? They'd be all defensive lol.
     
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    That's a really interesting perspective on it. Thank you :slight_smile:
     
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    I agree that it is disgusting and offensive. It would be strange indeed if women fetishized gay men as much as men fetishize lesbians.
     
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    They have lesbian porn instead of straight porn so they don't 'accidently' get turned on by the guy.

    Basically they get to treat two women as sex objects instead of one.
     
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    The reason this is ok for homophobic straight guys is that women's sexuality is not treated seriously: lesbians are 'hot' because what you see in porn are not lesbians, but two straight girls who are sooooo frustrated without a man that they resolve to 'play' with each other.

    And because of that portrayal lesbian sexuality is not treated as serious and real. Lesbians are 'accepted' because given that they are just 'frustrated without a man', they still perceived as approachable by straight men.

    For an actual lesbian this means that her sexuality is fetishised and objectified.

    Gay women who are not visibly available to be objectified in that manner: more boyish or masculine face a homophobic reaction: not based on the fact that what they do in the bedroom is 'gross', but because they have made themselves unavailable to be hit on.


    I have read somewhere that the reason why gay men as seen as 'gross' is because really straight men fear being treated by other men, the way they, themselves threat women.
     
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    Because straight, lesbian, or even Bi women are the sex objects of men; men are straight forward with their sexuality, boobs and butts in lingerie or nothing at all set off a man's desire. It doesn't even have to be lesbian porn, a girl can be in a bikini posing with a beer bottle and any guy can easily get off on it because that's a straight guys norm. It is bothersome but some guys can be homophobic pervs, I'm sorry you have people like that as coworkers, I wouldn't dwell on them just go on about your life.
     
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    There are in fact women out there who think guy on guy is hot(Yaoi, anyone?)...I remember when I had my first kiss, my best friend looked overly excited when she saw me and the her other Gay friend lock lips...Or maybe she was just very happy for us...Also, one of my aunts(Who doesn't know that I'm Gay, as far as I know)likes to watch Gay porn...

    I do hate it when some Gay men are grossed out by lesbian things...There's a Gay Youtuber(Who's name I won't say)that does this constantly...Whenever my co-workers show me lesbian porn, I don't say: OMG!! Ewwwww!!...In fact, I don't really think anything about it...

    Are any of the performers in lesbian porn actually lesbian? If they are, then they must be payed a ton of money in order to convince them to perform in porn that they know mostly attract straight boys...
     
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    If QFT were still a thing, I'd Q this FT.

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    Just remember that definitely not all straight guys are like this. Especially after they grow up a little... and experiment ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
     
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    Actually, those straight guys would hate if those girls were strict lesbians and not interested in them (as some bigots call "man-haters"). They just are sexual perverts.
     
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    Sounds like you might have a case of "heterophobia." Just because those guys find lesbians "sexy" but don't find gays "sexy" because of their orientation doesn't mean it's justified to pursue this feeling you have against them. What they like should not in any way be discriminated. How you feel sounds really similar to homophobic statements. This is not a double standard, it's simply their preference, just like how it's not a double standard that homosexuals like the same sex but not the opposite sex, it's simply a preference. What seems like a double standard here is your dislike towards straight guys who prefer lesbians kissing over gays kissing while at the same time you might view it being the opposite for yourself. I encourage you to find out why you think this way and why you feel like you should dislike them. It's best to eliminate unwanted and unneeded hate so you can be as accepting and open-minded as possible. You just need a little bit of perspective is all. :thumbsup:
     
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  20. Fallingdown7

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    I don't think typical straight guys as you describe respect any gay person. They think gay men are gross, call them slurs, want to beat them up....but with lesbians, while they think It's "hot", they also want to rape them and convert them to the straight side.