Straight hating gays?

The one thing I don't like is the idea to "turn" straight guys to gay relationships.

 

probably because its lgbt not lgbts

 

Well, the majority of hate crimes directed against gay men are from straight men, and a lot of the sexual abuse and entitle towards women's bodies also comes from straight men (although gay men and bi men are also responsible).

Not that I approve of hate against any group. I couldn't isolate myself from 75% of the population, even if they do frustrate and hurt me at times. Much better to educate them and make new allies.

Straight white cis men = "The Man"

 

I agree wholeheartedly. The majority of people, regardless of their sexual orientation or gender, are just ordinary and don't pose a threat to anyone.

I could hate a lot of people based on past experiences, but I don't, because those people do not represent everyone else.

Plus, if it wasn't for my sexuality, I'd be the very person everyone on here seems to dislike so much, since I have so much white and male privilege.

 

No, she's not. She specifically said "not all straight men". I don't hate straight men in general either, just for being straight men, but I do hate those who think my sexuality is some "challenge" for them to overcome by converting or raping me, like fallingdown said. Most straight men I've met aren't like that, and we get along just dandy.

 

I don't hate straight people, I just don't understand them very well, and I dislike the way heteronormativity works. It subtle, but it bugs me.

I totally understand that sexual attraction is not something that people can choose -and I don't have issues with the orientation as such- its like any other, buy I do have issues with comprehending some aspects of the culture. If the culture was different I would not have any feelings about straight people at all.

Eg, gender roles, cultural acceptance of the 'hierarchical' gender structure: not so long ago we had a dude here who got banned and who asserted that 'men are the leaders'- 'women like to be submissive' etc. Just the mere fact that women put up with this crap whilst also complaining about it, grinds my gears.

There are many men who are not like that- but some are & they still find partners who will complain, but not seek out better people for themselves.
The amount of nonsense women are willing to put up with from men, whilst always complaining about them is staggering. The way some straight women present men, makes me really struggle to understand what do they like about them. - hence I don't understand how straight attraction works.

I hear straight women complaining about sexism, inequality etc and at the same time accepting all this treatment - *this* is the part I don't get- why would you keep doing something that makes you unhappy?

Eg. I had a straight 'feminist' acquaintance complain about how bouncers at a certain club are 'sexist' because they don't allow women in flat shoes- you only have to wear high-heels & don't even allow you to change into flats, at any time you are in the club.

I am not high-heel wearing person, & I simply cannot understand *why* somebody would comply with such a demand, it just seems so wrong on all levels & yet she seemed to both complain about 'sexism' and take it when it was dished out to her, because she kept returning to those places, even though there are plenty of other options- I would have simply not let this happen to me, and I struggle to understand anyone who does.

 

Well said.

 

Of course, but I am not even entirely sure that 'sexism' is a useful term in general, because it kind of leads to each gender accusing the other of being more sexist.

I don't think hate is a productive emotion to feel- it is good temporarily to galvanise ppl to change things, but not in the long term.

 

We also had a woman here recently who insisted that she wants her men to be leaders, and they should spoil her, and pay for her. You see, it goes both ways - some men expect women to be subservient, but some women expect men to take a leading role. They want independence and want to lead their own lives, but at the same time, expect men to take care of them, and pay for nice dinners.

Nothing will ever change when both men and women think the way they do.

 

Hate, is a strong word, I prefer dislike...Here's the thing about straight boys:
They love to drool over two girls copulating, yet they are grossed out by two guys copulating...They've hated us forever, so a lot of us will most likely hate them back...They think they're better than us simply because they like vaginas, and we like penises...They've killed, tortured, and beaten a lot of us simply for not being like them...I don't believe in the Gay-straight alliance, I prefer a LGBT rights group that involves people who are actually LGBT, not straight boys who go around saying:

"Hey look, I'm pro-Gay! I'm a good straight boy because of it! Gays love me! But I'm not Gay, I love pussy! I just support Gays!"

And a lot of them are celebrities who want to get a good reputation for their own benefit...So yes, I dislike straight boys...Sorry, really I am...

 

As usual, people use their bad experience with certain members of a demographic and turn it into a negative generalization of the entire demographic.

Most homophobic people I've met have been straight men. I post on a political site where anti-gay posts come up all the time. 9 times out of 10, the anti-gay posts are posted by middle-aged straight men. But that doesn't mean that most straight men are homophobes and it isn't fair to judge a whole huge demographic by the few bad experiences we've had with members of that group.

 

Well I don't hate anyone solely based on sexuality or gender and though there might be a connection between sexuality and opinion I think it goes way deeper than that rendering sex etc. irrelevant.

I personally like to hate people based on their actions rather. Just generally though I can't say I think gender roles are of any use and I think the way sex is portrayed by society is very limiting.

I'm somewhat petrified by few of the posts in this thread. I find that a lot of arguments are unfounded or just plain ridiculous. Some are outright scary leaving me less hopeful about what the outcome of LGBTS issues will be.