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**Martin** · 27th Nov 2008, 01:19 PM

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I'm not convinced.

-Michael- · 27th Nov 2008, 01:21 PM

He persuaded me!

pirateninja · 27th Nov 2008, 01:23 PM

Ironically enough, I'm going to borrow a quote from Miss Shirley Phelps Roper.

"Just because you say that, it doesn't automatically make it so."

Wander · 27th Nov 2008, 01:27 PM

I believe he later corrected himself to mean that the attitude towards homosexuals in Iran is not the same as it is in America.

There most certainly are gays in Iran, just not as visible or outspoken because of the abuse they get.

-Michael- · 27th Nov 2008, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pirateninja

Ironically enough, I'm going to borrow a quote from Miss Shirley Phelps Roper.

"Just because you say that, it doesn't automatically make it so."

Becuase we all know what you'd like to do with Shirley don't we holly.

pirateninja · 27th Nov 2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by -Michael-

Quote:

Originally Posted by pirateninja

Ironically enough, I'm going to borrow a quote from Miss Shirley Phelps Roper.

"Just because you say that, it doesn't automatically make it so."

Becuase we all know what you'd like to do with Shirley don't we holly.

Mmmmm mmmmmm.... DAYUM! Yes....

ProfessorLepus · 28th Nov 2008, 02:55 AM

"I don't know who told you that we do have homosexuals, but we don't!"

That guy is so full of shit. Anyone ever see that Dateline special about gays in Iran?

excuseyou77 · 28th Nov 2008, 12:12 PM

You know, I've been called a lot of things in my life, but never a phenomenon.

Paul_UK · 28th Nov 2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Wander

There most certainly are gays in Iran, just not as visible or outspoken because of the abuse they get.

This is how Iran treats it's gay teenagers

One was 18 and the other 16 or 17. Before being hung they had spent 14 months in prison and received 228 lashes.

There is more information here http://www.ukgaynews.org.uk/archive/2005july/2101.htm and here http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050815/kim

28th Nov 2008, 03:22 PM

I hate muslims.....

28th Nov 2008, 03:30 PM

It's illegal to homosexual in Iran, right? However I think there obviously gay people there, it's just that they're all concealing it. Not just because they want to, they must in order to not get killed over there.

squirrel · 28th Nov 2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by excuseyou77

You know, I've been called a lot of things in my life, but never a phenomenon.

yeah I thought that choice of words was weird too.

Swamp56 · 28th Nov 2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Face Smasher

I hate muslims.....

Not all Muslims are like that :/ . Don't forget what you are; and realize that hating is something that you put up with think about that.

28th Nov 2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Swamp56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Face Smasher

I hate muslims.....

Not all Muslims are like that :/ . Don't forget what you are; and realize that hating is something that you put up with think about that.

Ah you're right. I said that out of pure anger after seeing that picture and now I realize how irrational that comment was.

**EM68** · 28th Nov 2008, 04:06 PM

In Iran it is the religious leaders that run the country Ahmadinejad is mainly a figurehead. As stupid as his comments he says are, most of the time he is speaking to the Iranian people as propaganda.

MedGuy211 · 28th Nov 2008, 04:26 PM

Swamp is right. The branch of Islam that is represented by Iran, and Saudi Arabia is only one tiny interpretation of Islam. Less than 100 years ago less that 1% of Muslims believed in this ideology (the exact figure isn't known, but it's tiny). Fundamentalist Islam began in Saudi Arabia, as the practices of a single small tribe. Unfortunately this was the tribe that first found the oil.

They rose to become today's Saudi royal family and used their billions to spread their reactionary beliefs throughout the Muslim world. Blame the fundamentalists, they're no better than the Nazies, but don't say Islam.

I hate to lecture, but generalizations piss the hell out of me. Though I've gotta say, I don't think a picture has ever made me more sad.

Ty · 28th Nov 2008, 05:00 PM

Ahmadinajad has a cool name. It's funny seeing Sarah Palin use him in a debate also, as she hasn't a fucking clue what shes on about.

Meh, it's not worth worry about, the middle east's fundamentalist regieme will collapse when the last drop of oil is gone. You'll see.

Mickey · 28th Nov 2008, 07:43 PM

Wow...that's a very disturbing picture. It's friggen sick!
If I lived there,chances are I'd be hung,too. I just can't sit there and shut up.
My whole heart goes out to those boys and everyone else that has to deal with this.
While we may think we have it bad here,in America,(prop8,gay marriage fight,etc...) we don't have to worry about dying!
All I can think of is...OMG!

crimsonarcher · 28th Nov 2008, 08:13 PM

I've seen enough hangings-

it's hard just to wrap my head around that at one point in the beginnings of America, people literally hung people that were accused of witchcraft(even 2 dogs were hung),
but this- how is this even tolerated? Did people just stand there and watch them get hung? Did the photographer just stand there? Just what goes on in that part of the world? UGH, ahagajauijakoljlemtlrtjmkl, i'm just mad.

is there anyone in EC that's in the Middle East at all?

string3343 · 28th Nov 2008, 10:31 PM

I am just thankful that I don't live in a society where that is acceptable!

27th Nov 2008, 01:21 PM	#2
-Michael- Been gone a while. Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: DragonPhoenixLightningAwesome Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Middlesbrough, North-east England Age: 20 Posts: 2,198 Join Date: Jun 2008	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... He persuaded me!

27th Nov 2008, 01:23 PM	#3
pirateninja EC's Sailor Uranus Full Member Gender: Biologically Female Orientation: Heterosexually Challenged Out Status: Most people Location: Bath, England Age: 21 Posts: 5,853 Join Date: Sep 2007	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... Ironically enough, I'm going to borrow a quote from Miss Shirley Phelps Roper. "Just because you say that, it doesn't automatically make it so." __________________ Holly the Pirateninja Ars Longa, Vita Brevis.

27th Nov 2008, 01:27 PM	#4
Wander Banned Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Parents, aunts, grandma, counselor, online friends Location: Central Alabama Age: 18 Posts: 2,360 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... I believe he later corrected himself to mean that the attitude towards homosexuals in Iran is not the same as it is in America. There most certainly are gays in Iran, just not as visible or outspoken because of the abuse they get.

28th Nov 2008, 02:55 AM	#7
ProfessorLepus Colgate Rabbit Dentist Full Member Gender: Mail Orientation: Ghey Out Status: I don't lie. Location: Austin, TX Age: 20 Posts: 445 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... "I don't know who told you that we do have homosexuals, but we don't!" That guy is so full of shit. Anyone ever see that Dateline special about gays in Iran? __________________ Anonymity I can not run forever Google will find me

28th Nov 2008, 12:12 PM	#8
excuseyou77 EC Addict Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: my mom, few friends Location: Duluth, GA Age: 26 Posts: 834 Join Date: Oct 2007	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... You know, I've been called a lot of things in my life, but never a phenomenon. __________________ "I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does."

28th Nov 2008, 03:22 PM	#10
STK Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... I hate muslims..... Last edited by STK; 28th Nov 2008 at 03:25 PM..

28th Nov 2008, 03:30 PM	#11
Mick Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... It's illegal to homosexual in Iran, right? However I think there obviously gay people there, it's just that they're all concealing it. Not just because they want to, they must in order to not get killed over there.

28th Nov 2008, 04:06 PM	#15
EM68 Happily Married! :) EC Moderator Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out and about. Location: Stoughton, Massachusetts USA Age: 43 Posts: 4,288 Join Date: Jun 2008	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... In Iran it is the religious leaders that run the country Ahmadinejad is mainly a figurehead. As stupid as his comments he says are, most of the time he is speaking to the Iranian people as propaganda. __________________ I'm beautiful in my way, 'Cause God makes no mistakes I'm on the right track, baby I was Born This Way -Lady Gaga

28th Nov 2008, 04:26 PM	#16
MedGuy211 Member Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: family and like a dozen friends Age: 26 Posts: 50 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... Swamp is right. The branch of Islam that is represented by Iran, and Saudi Arabia is only one tiny interpretation of Islam. Less than 100 years ago less that 1% of Muslims believed in this ideology (the exact figure isn't known, but it's tiny). Fundamentalist Islam began in Saudi Arabia, as the practices of a single small tribe. Unfortunately this was the tribe that first found the oil. They rose to become today's Saudi royal family and used their billions to spread their reactionary beliefs throughout the Muslim world. Blame the fundamentalists, they're no better than the Nazies, but don't say Islam. I hate to lecture, but generalizations piss the hell out of me. Though I've gotta say, I don't think a picture has ever made me more sad. __________________ "...Everyone wants to know they're not alone."

28th Nov 2008, 05:00 PM	#17
Ty Mints ribbed for her pleasure Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Oxford, t'South, UK Age: 19 Posts: 305 Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... Ahmadinajad has a cool name. It's funny seeing Sarah Palin use him in a debate also, as she hasn't a fucking clue what shes on about. Meh, it's not worth worry about, the middle east's fundamentalist regieme will collapse when the last drop of oil is gone. You'll see.

28th Nov 2008, 07:43 PM	#18
Mickey Older and bolder! Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Massachusetts Age: 50 Posts: 1,775 Join Date: Aug 2008	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... Wow...that's a very disturbing picture. It's friggen sick! If I lived there,chances are I'd be hung,too. I just can't sit there and shut up. My whole heart goes out to those boys and everyone else that has to deal with this. While we may think we have it bad here,in America,(prop8,gay marriage fight,etc...) we don't have to worry about dying! All I can think of is...OMG! __________________ We don't choose to be gay...we're CHOSEN!

28th Nov 2008, 08:13 PM	#19
crimsonarcher Down-Pour Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: ... Location: AZ Posts: 1,051 Join Date: Apr 2007	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... I've seen enough hangings- it's hard just to wrap my head around that at one point in the beginnings of America, people literally hung people that were accused of witchcraft(even 2 dogs were hung), but this- how is this even tolerated? Did people just stand there and watch them get hung? Did the photographer just stand there? Just what goes on in that part of the world? UGH, ahagajauijakoljlemtlrtjmkl, i'm just mad. is there anyone in EC that's in the Middle East at all? __________________ Simple & Clean.

28th Nov 2008, 10:31 PM	#20
string3343 Member Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: to my brother!! Location: United States Age: 19 Posts: 80 Join Date: Jul 2008	Re: Iran does not have any homosexuals... I am just thankful that I don't live in a society where that is acceptable!

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