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Not enough smart men for smart women to date

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Simple Thoughts, Jun 12, 2015.

  1. Simple Thoughts

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    And the other 50% of smart men are gay :lol:.
     
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    I'm swimming in witty, intelligent male company through IT and writing. Maybe they'd like to take some off the market? Only one is gay.

    If we're speaking solely about certain levels of higher education, then yes--perhaps there's an imbalance. What I'm always hearing though is complaints that we need more women studying STEM. Interesting to see it from another perspective.
     
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    Educated men will be like men in a nursing home -- in short supply for all the women!
     
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    It doesn't sit right with me that girls performing better than boys is okay because girls are deservedly taking their place, but the situation reversed is considered a social travesty.

    Heck, in the UK, women in their 20s and 30s now slightly out earn men - surely a reflection of girls performing better academically.

    Men and women are equal in intellectual capability. If boys are falling behind, it would be better for everyone to find the reason why and find a solution. Maybe a one size fits all approach is wrong - men and women are fundamentally not the same and acquire information differently.
     
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    Everyone's stupid. The end.
     
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    Having read the article, it doesn't seem to make very strong claims. It just says more women are graduating from college, and they tend to prefer people who are similarly educated.

    I would love to see financial access to education increased so that we can get more men into colleges and universities graduating.
     
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    Well, the logical solution is that the educated women should just marry each other if they want a spouse of similar educational achievement then.
     
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    May I just point out the horrible character of the author here?

    First they openly admit to their being a problem with the educational system that disadvantages men and casually talks about how the sytem covered it up, than proceeds to say that it's men's own fault ( I dunno if victim blaming applies outside of rape, but this feels like it'd fit the bill ) and that there is no reason to fix the broken system ( that the author admits is broken ).

    I find this person to be a horrible person.

    also completely entitled.
     
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    Intellegence != level of education.
    That is all.
     
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    The thing that annoys me more than anything though, is the attitude - oh no, I couldn't possibly date down - I mean, a woman with a certificate in Home Economics can marry a professional businessman, but if a man wants to marry up instead of marrying down, well, that's just wrong.

    These women are going to remain alone for a long time with that foul, off-putting attitude - and they deserve nothing less. If women are going to replace men as the higher-earning sex, then they will also replace men as the breadwinners, and men will marry up instead of marrying down. Can't have your cake and eat it I'm afraid.
     
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    Haha good point. The author says that the educational system is more suited toward the way the average female learns, rather than males, and blames average males for not being able to compete?
     
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    The problem isn't that men are getting stupider, it's that the education system is no longer working to males' advantage. They've drastically cut down on competitive events, recess (guys need physical releases for pent up energy), math is now littered with language (men excel better with numbers, but fall short in language), and are routinely punished in school for being boys. There's a mountain of research coming out (Warren Farrel is one such academic looking at the subject) where schools are working for girls and leaving boys behind. It's not an intelligent difference, it's that schools are teaching to girls' advantages.
     
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    Nah, they're too "weird."
     
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    Maybe it's just a trend that more men per capita are wanting to immediately enter the workforce after graduating high school instead of going to college? Perhaps there are also more men that will go to Technical Colleges and schools that specialise in STEM fields?
     
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    I have noticed at my high school that in the honours and AP classes, they're almost exclusively female, with only a few guys in each class.

    I don't think the level of education someone has necessarily correlates with their intelligence though.
     
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    Women have been dominating the educational system for awhile, and men have been falling behind.

    No one cares though because they aren't women and thus you can only be misogynistic if you do anything to help them.
     
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    This... is pretty close to what I was going to say.

    Only thing I'd add is, some folks associate "smart" with the job you have. If you're working at McDonald's, even if you splice atoms, you have more of an uphill battle than, say, the mediocre kid whose parents forced them to barely pass, allowing them to get a better occupation.

    Not everybody has the time to improve their education, especially when you take into account many men are told to work as soon as possible, and to make money or else they're practically worthless and less appealing. I could mention how many men are also slapped with child support payments which can financially cripple anyone, and going to school would take away time from those payments, so you're stuck where you are.

    That's just two examples of possible data distortions.
     
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    Hey I have two masters degrees.
     
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    Sounds to me like selection-bias.

    There is a very informative song by Billy Currington, "Like My Dog":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wa8LpP-GlQg

    Culturally, men are not taught to value intelligence. It's not that they are taught that intelligence is a bad thing, but it generally isn't included in their bases for selection.

    Men have much greater expectations regarding traits that are associated with wealth, including their level of education, so highly educated, affluent men get snapped up pretty quickly, compared with highly educated, affluent women. There are a lot of good reasons for a woman to pursue higher education. Getting laid ain't one of them.

    Until our culture changes, this will continue to be an issue.

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    I just read something from Pew Research Center, and yeah, women are making considerable gains in the education system. Cool:

    Gender gap in college enrollment | Pew Research Center

    It seems that a fair amount of the disparity is among hispanic and black students, which is quite peculiar.

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    Behavioral problems among boys in college. Now, that is something that I can verify based on experience. I have a serious sensory integration problem, you know that thing associated with people going into weird, dangerous rages, yeah, I have that. ANYWAY, while I was trying to survive living on-campus, I found that the boys, particularly in the freshman dorms, had very much the Animal House type of mindset, and they were drinking beer, partying all night, smoking marijuana constantly, and being absolutely freaking outrageous, and the real problem is that they really don't understand what "I have an exam at 8:00 a.m." actually means. They make a point of avoiding actually having to wake up before noon. They are there to party, not to actually make anything of themselves.

    And the real problem is that those of us who are trying to go somewhere with our lives often have serious challenges to dealing with that kind of environment, and often many of us who have tremendous potential and are otherwise highly motivated end up washing out anyway because of the sins and lack of consideration of others. I had to change colleges and start my entire college education off from ground zero due to this kind of crap. I was learning a great deal, but I would always be too fuzzy due to stress and lack of sleep to actually succeed, particularly once I got to junior-level courses.

    I'm going to venture to say it's absolutely behavioral problems. Boys in college are behaving like stupid children. Look at these statistics. This is what you're doing to yourselves, boys.