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Opinions on no such thing as Bi?

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  1. MissMonster

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    So I read an artical earlier today that I havent been able to get off my mind, and I wanted your opinions on the issue.

    Basically scientists took men and women and monitored their "physical sexual reactions" to watching different styles of porn: hetero and homo.. And they ask them
    Beforehand if they identify as gay or straight.

    What they concluded is that while men who cited themselves as being bisexual actually had an immense preference for the opposite sex or the same sex.. And not in the middle.

    While, females were more fluid entirely.. Basically a majority could be described as bisexual even when they cited they were straight.

    Somin conclusion, they decided when a man says he is bisexual.. He really only hasnt come to terms with the reality of his preference and is mentally holding onto an ideal that has been placed on him since birth.. But in reality he is homosexual and only subconsciously afraid to be fully that way.

    What are your thoughts on this?
     
  2. Cider

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    I think it's bullshit. :lol:

    I've been attracted to both sexes and find both attractive, so I consider myself bisexual, and no one can change that.
     
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    I feel the same about it! There are many ways to be aroused by someone and its not always physical.. Its entirely possible that men's bodies dont respond the same way in hetero as they do with homosexual porn. ALSO.. Who is to say they are even into porn to begin with? Or maybe that particular one wasnt cutting it for them.

    I cant see a way for this to be determined by their "scientific" methods.
     
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    Can somebody say b-b-b-bullshit?
     
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    Pretty silly conclusion, in my opinion. That statement may very well be true for some males (and females), but not all.

    This conclusions sounds like it came straight out of a slltudy from the 6s.
     
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    I don't buy it, sounds like they only used a small amount of people. There ARE a lot of people who say they are bisexual when they're actually just confused. But even so, a guy could be really attracted to the female body but could easily fall in love once he gets to know the right guy, and this doesn't test that by the sounds of it.

    Just the same with females, I have a few friends who identify as bi and sometimes straight (To parents etc.), and they're sexually attracted to women and men but only romantically attracted to men.

    I think there's more to it then sexual reactions. With all the people (male and female) I have had crushes on, NONE of them have aroused me the moment I met them lol.
     
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    That's just crap! You can be slightly more inclined to one sex over the other, but if you still find the other sex attractive, then you're bi.
    Example: I'm slightly more inclined to guys, but that doesn't mean that I can't be with a girl. Some girls I find really attractive, actually.
    Not everyone can or wants to identify as excusively gay or straight. Bisexuality clearly exists.
     
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    Really good points. I agree.

    Something about the "science" of the experiment seems to lack standing in my opinion. But it was really curious to think of maybe bisexuality being a transition phase to homosexuality.
     
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    That study was debunked, if I recall correctly.
     
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    I think a lot of people, especially guys, use it (Or think they're bisexual) as a transition to homosexuality. I say especially guys because society seems more ok with lesbians, probably because a lot of straight guys turn it into a fetish. I wish they wouldn't use it like that as it makes actually bisexuals untrustworthy to some people, but I know it would make it a lot easier for some people.
    I spent a bit of time thinking everything over before accepting I was bi, I didn't want to just use the label when I was confused :slight_smile:
     
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    haha, I don't believe it.
     
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    So far its the only label I have. There are soooo many labels that come along with homosexuality, it makes my head spin.

    I think I could name at least 3 that describe me and not lnow another 5 that would LOL

    Its extremely confusing to know if you're lesbian/gay or bi sometimes.. Even more so when you have never sexually been involved with one half of the equation.

    But even still.. During the transition time they are bi, it doesnt make the label less valid if eventually they discover they are full gay. It only means thats where life took them.
     
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    Hmm you have a good point. It is VERY confusing when you realize you're not as straight as you thought. Sexuality can be very complex.
     
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    Really? i'd love to read that!
     
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    Seeing as the concept of sexuality is a way in which we attempt to define ourselves so that we may better communicate who we are as a person by drawing on a persons knowledge of others who fit the definition which we have applied to ourselves, I would have to say that the concept of Bisexuality is not one which can be dismissed by a study. It is a label that is used to convey that one is open to sex with someone of either of the binary sexes; it exists so that people can convey this message without having to state it in its entirety.
     
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    It is really not a real argument I think. Granted, a label is just a label, but then why do so many people identify as bisexual? Very few bisexuals are completely 50/50 so it makes sense that people would have different reactions. The human mind is more than just neurons and synapses, its emotion, passion, feeling. I don't think any amount of science can stomp out someones love.

    Many people do use Bi as a way of "easing into" being gay/lesbian, so to speak. But that does not mean that all bi people are really gay or lesbian, there are many that are indeed bisexual.
     
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    Well, assuming the study was carried out properly, it still only suggests one way or the other. It may suggest that bisexuality in men isn't "real" but it would be unscientific for them to claim that their study proved such. It appears there definition of homosexuality and heterosexuality involves a "preference" -- meaning, for example, that I'm gay because I "prefer" men. So, it sounds like when they are saying that these men prefer women or men, they are categorizing them into homosexual or heterosexual based on preference. I define homosexual as being exclusively attracted to the same sex, not simply a preference. Also, just because they showed a preference doesn't mean they weren't attracted to both sexes. I feel its likely bisexuals have a preference for one sex over the other, and that it may not always be equal. This doesn't say bisexuality isn't real. However, I think some people probably find both sexes equally appealing.
     
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    I wonder how many people were sampled and if it was done correctly.

    I read about that study. I think it was at Northwestern. I don't think they're turning out shoddy work at this school, so ...

    Bisexuality is sometimes too complex to box into a study. I think that a big aspect of sexuality is availability, inhibitions/lack of inhibitions, and conditioning. I'm almost sure some people may disagree with that. I see some guys who bang their heads against the wall vying for women's attention and not having much luck and I think to myself, "Why don't you broaden your horizons, you might see more action?" Most are staying put but some will cross the fence. Whatever works for you.
     
  19. Fallingdown7

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    Technically, these studies don't prove anything because porn has absolutely no effect on women's sexuality. This is a common fact. Women are not turned on by actors in porn, they are turned on by scenery. It is common for straight women to prefer lesbian porn and for lesbians to prefer gay male porn but these people I just described can still be 100% straight/gay with zero fluid tendencies at all.

    Studies have also proven that women are "fluid" when it comes to being aroused by rape, pedophilia, and zoophilia. However, most women aren't pedophiles or pro-rape. It's actually because the vagina is biologically designed to be aroused to everything sexual, while the penis is not. Almost every single female rape victim ever is aroused by her rape and can even orgasm....but does this mean that "rape" doesn't actually exist for women since all of them "enjoyed" it? Obviously not.

    So the same can work for men and their sexuality, although men do tend to be more visual.
     
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    Somehow, bi men keep finding me anyway, like they have some kind of homing signal or something.