Nastiness in LGBT culture, societies

I've never noticed this offline. Maybe on the internet, but then, the internet is dark and full of terrors. Can you give some examples?

That said, hypocrisy and nastiness are certainly not the sole property of straight and cis people.

And I like your signature.

 

I guess you've got to treat the LGBT+ people who are nasty/hypocrits/cliquey as individuals as well.

 

You'll find that in any group or organization. In the beginning, when things are harder and they're coming up, almost anybody is accepted -- they don't really have a choice if they want to be heard or prevail. But, as more recognition and victories come under their banner, they succumb to social pressure and begin removing those who, basically, make them look bad or who, in their opinion, do not promote their idealized image.

And yes, you cannot quite judge something entirely online, especially a community, because the Internet has taught me 3 things:

Porn is king.
Piracy is second nature.
Assholes have a shield to hide behind.

P.S. If you're browsing the bowels of Tumblr, stop. Those are special snowflakes who, more or less, are simply wanting meaning in their lives or to feel, well, unique in a world where they believe everybody doesn't understand, because it gives them a 'one up' card to play, to avoid responsibility and escape criticism.

 

The most transphobic person I ever met was gay, but hey, I could have met someone as equally bad who's straight.

Being LGBT doesn't rid someone of their bad traits. As such, you're bound to find communities that are pretty nasty.

Though, a lot of very accepting people I know are LGBT. Most of those I know are more open-minded than straight people because they experienced this kind of discrimination first hand.

 

The only time I was ever treated rudely by somebody who was in the LGBT community was a gay cat breeder who basically got angry at me because I thought about entering my cat. Clearly this guy was threatened, because we'd be competing if that was the case. But I've actually never met somebody who was in the LGBT community that was rude about LGBT topics...

 

You'll find em anywhere.... no matter what group you decide to choose. LGBT community is no different. online or off.

 

The most common discrimination I find is the Masculines vs Femmes...
Masc/Straight Acting only no Femmes... You'll find a ton of those.

But then theres...
Only Vanilla (White)
No Rice (Asian)
No Curry (South Asians/Indians)
No Chocolate (Blacks)
No Spice (Latinos)

I mean really since when has race been relegated to food groups. It blurs the line between preference and being racist.

Honestly for people who have endured a lot of discrimination. We tend to inflict discrimination against each other as well.

 

Yeah, I never quite understood people like that.. I've even seen attitudes like that on a few dating sites, maybe those words weren't used.. & were not toward me, but you get that vibe that people will only talk to specific types, & maybe it's a preference.. but to see people being described that way is shocking to me:eek: & like you said, coming from a group that's supposed to preach the colors of the rainbow, of course this doesn't symbolize the entire community, but it's still sad to see that a few people who know what discrimination is like, would go & do the same thing.

 

There is a lot of this in my semi-rural community, and it is hurting it very much. I recently created a meetup group so that I could find lgbtq+ friends in my community, and was told by The Pride Foundation leader in my area that there are soo many cliques here that it's really hard to bring the community together. Apparently they're excited that I'm a newbie/outsider because I'm not involved in any clique and might be able to get some of these cliques to come together for events/activities. I just don't understand it, we really need to be there for one another so that the younger generations have a strong community to come into and be supported by. That being said, I guess when you look at the 'hetero' community, there are cliques and divides there too... the sporty guys don't normally hang with the geek squad guys:The high maintenance girls don't normally hang out with the sporty motorcycle riding girls. I suppose there are exceptions to every rule.

 

Question is would u not find the same thing in the straight community ?

 

It just goes to show we are no different than the rest of society. In the end we aren't all that different from the people that are against us. Which is both sad and interesting, but in the end we are just human and we all need to work on things.

 

I've only seen it on the internet, because I'm not very active within it in real life. Especially on Tumblr, where everyone says it's a choice and shames dysphorics. Then if you disagree you're a transphobe. Also lesbians are so demonized, it's disgusting.

 

Yes, a lot of it. And IRL. On the internet, people could object and retort. Threads could be closed down.

Every identifiable community has it. Other communities use it to create a pecking order or describe socioeconomic strata or different belief systems. In LGBT speak, it's used in an almost self deprecating manner.

With men, it's the appendage of the word "queen" onto derisive terms. I hate the word "queen" to describe men, especially if they are reasonably masculine. The only time I'm not offended is with the term drag queen is used because there is almost no other term and they're not bothered by it. Some of the ones I've heard are:
Retail Queen - a guy who works in retail
Rice Queen - a guy who likes Asian men
Size Queen - a guy who likes well endowed men
Have I missed any?

I also really dislike when gay men refer to other men as "that bitch" or "this bitch." The people who generally use this are not very likable and I stay away from them. They are very calloused.

With women, I haven't heard as many, but I have heard:
Diesel Dyke - I suppose this means looking and acting as if they were a long haul trucker.

I have come up with some nicknames and acronyms with one friend that would never gain ground because they were specific to a person and a lot of them were even complimentary. One of our most used was "very puppy." It had nothing to do with age. It just meant a cuter guy who had dark hair and big puppy dog brown eyes. Robert Downey Jr. would qualify. Since it could probably be deciphered, we amended it to "it barks," which only we understood.

If they're kind of goofy and private, it's ok. When they become widely disseminated and, mostly, are self-deprecating, I don't like them.

If you want to see nastiness and cliquishness among gay men, watch the YouTube trailers for the movie "Whirlwind." It's the all time low in terms of shallowness - a group of guy friends living in a gay mecca and their dispensable attitudes toward people.

 

I mean you'd think that after suffering from discrimination we'd learn something about treating others respectfully and equally, but think again, there's no reason why gay people can't be as ignorant and repulsive as anyone else.
porn is king [2]

 

The thing is that if a person lives in a large liberal city with a huge LGBT community and they are on the A-list for their looks and other reasons, they won't suffer much discrimination at this point in time so they are not likely to develop respect and compassion. However, if they don't readjust their outlook as time goes by, then they might be in for a rude awakening down the road.

 

Being gay or trans or whatever is just one similarity.

I'm white. There are white assholes who are cliqueish.

Just because youre in the same demographic does not mean you will get along with people in that demographic.