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I'm getting sick of modern culture

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by sporn, Sep 4, 2015.

  1. sporn

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    I've been getting into fashion lately. That means I've been reading more about it. I'm getting so sick of it. I like dressing well and designing stuff, I just hate the fashion world for some reason.

    The more I look at other people's designs the worse my designs get. I guess storing ideas in my head is better than Pinterest. I just hate the Pinterest aesthetic. Everything looks so sterile. Even when I'm looking at styles I like.

    Same thing happened with music. I'm on my free trial for Apple music. I hate that they only suggest stereotypical modern music. I just keep listening to it even though I know it's all boring modern stuff. I hope they improve after the update.
     
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    I find a lot of so-called "fashion" to be ridiculous and not even remotely practical, especially those high class runway shows. So you aren't alone in that, though if you mean what stores and magazines promote, well, some of it can be stylish but the thing is... part of what makes a style so stylish isn't the materials, it's the individual and how they wear it.

    Pinterest has some interesting stuff, but much of it is recycled information from other areas. I don't know a whole lot about it to really say more.

    About music... this seems to happen. I remember loving the 90s until the whole boy band wave swept the world. It really buried a lot of genres I liked, such as grunge and punk, but the positive is, with these going back underground the quality felt more authentic and improved, so, there are perks to situations like this. I suspect the same is happening now. It's just harder to believe due to how interconnected the world is through technology, so we hear and see things, the good and the bad, at a more frequent rate.

    Give it about another 5 years, the music scene will shift again. As for hoping Apple improves, that's unlikely. So long as people keep buying and supporting their software, they will assume that is what people want, and keep doing that. Also, keep in mind, a lot of the musicians that are featured have exclusive deals, so, you can't really avoid that.

    To leave you with a little bit of hope. People are [mostly] following trends, so originality can break through, if you are persistent with it. The status quo doesn't like originality because it forces them to change their approach, and why should they? They're making profit by shelling out the same stuff over and over and over, and everybody in turn follows.

    I think you can do something, if you really want to.
     
  3. sporn

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    I don't mind runway fashion in small doses. What I do mind is "real outfits". They just look so sterile and boring, even if it's a style I like. At least I can get inspiration from runway fashion.
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    I guess Apple music won't improve. Guess I have to go back to last.fm for music discovery.
     
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    I don't understand fashion at all.

    Everytime I see something about runways and fasion they always put the models in these laughably ridiculous outfits that are not only impractical, but just look absurd and serve no purpose what so ever.

    I always find myself thinking that you don't need to make people look like they came from a far away planet to be original. Hell I don't even see most runway stuff as original it's a lot of the time not all that different from all the other stuff, or trying too hard to be something different.

    If you want to not be boring why not take on a real challenge? Re-invent the pants. Make something completely practical ( that people can actually wear in their daily lives ) and do it in a way it's never been done before.

    We don't need outfits that only exist for someone else to enjoy atop their high horse whilst they talk about the lowly peasants beneath them.
     
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    Me too, Middle Ages ftw.

    That aside, I think that when I was younger I was much more into the modern fashion world. Right now, if I had to pick a style, it could be anything until the 1960s.

    In regard to music, I never had the opportunity (or wanted) to check out the Apple platform, instead I have always relied on last.fm suggestions and sometimes tumblr recommendations. I'm quite alienated from the ""mainstream"" music world, I guess it's fine.
     
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    I agree.
     
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    Well, you have the internet at your fingertips. Windowshop. Browse off the beaten track. There are countless alternatives.
     
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    I got sick of modern culture years ago, and what passes for "fashion" today makes me want to beat my head against the wall. Give me a t-shirt (or team jersey) and a pair of jeans and I'll be fine.

    As for music, it's much the same way. Anything that sounds like it belongs on the US Top 40, I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole. And that's saying something because I'll listen to just about anything. Everything just sounds the same anymore!
     
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    Radio music is always gonna be about what's the easiest to produce and makes the most money with the least effort.

    In other words it's going to be 90% garbage. Honestly, Ed Sheeran is the only thing that makes radio music even tolerable.


    I say we've got the internet, find new music, find new artists, or find muscians and make your own music. The possibilities are endless. Hell you can even buy software and make your own unique sounds =3
     
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    I think you guys mistake Runway Couture with what people actually wear from these designer labels or Houses. What you see in the runway which you describe as "ridiculous", "laughable", "impractical", etc isn't meant to be worn in actual everyday life. They are meant to be “wearable art”, meant to showcase beauty, extravagance, innovation NOT practicality or functionality. They are meant to be a statement of prestige from the Designer. Fashion houses don’t actually expect anyone to buy those pieces, if anything they are for publicity. What you actually wear from these designers are Haute Couture or RTWs. I wear designer and go so much to the extent of flying abroad to get a design I want. One thing is for sure, I haven’t seen any of those whimsical pieces in any of the stores.
     
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    I just don't really understand the point of the runway outfits. You'd think the point of a runway is to show off their clothing lines or w/e.

    It doesn't do anything productive if they're just throwing around frivilous and ridiculous outfits they know aren't meant to be sold, and aren't even related to what they are actually planning to sell. That bumbs it from weird and out there to just prestigious, pseudo-artsy, and a statement of their betterness than other people.
     
  12. sporn

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    I kind of want to look like I'm from a far off planet. I'll just make practical clothes that looks like it's from a far off planet.
     
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    All of this.

    The general public do not attend fashion events. While there are specific runway shows dedicated towards designs that are meant to head straight for department stores and the standard mall shop, the larger events in the fashion would are dedicated towards dedicated towards presenting something that pushes the envelope. With the except of purchases by celebrities, many of the pieces that are shown during international fashion weeks aren't meant to purchased by the general public. The whole point is to inspire the commercial sector. So much of the patterns and styles of clothes that we see in our regular clothing sections are "watered down" versions of what was seen on runways a few seasons prior.

    Fashion is no different than photography. There is practical photography that allows us to share important moments, share images, etc; and there is artistic photography where the photographer is attempting to portray something that they think embodies a unique quality. The mindset that some people have such as "I think fashion is so unnecessary and superficial. I just like my blue jeans and black shirt. I don't care about all that nonsense" is so simpleminded.

    Creative minds don't exist simply to create things for your consumption. Modern painters could live much better lives as graphic designers for corporations than living the sad lies that most live these days, but that is not what brings them satisfaction. They enjoy creating pieces that the general public might not always see as the most practical or worthy of throwing money at. As a writer, I create my work with the hope that the general public will be able to appreciate it; however, I am not going to stop using flowery language because "no one cares about writing styles these days". I am not going to write in certain genres simply because they are mainstream. I am going to stay loyal to my vision and I am perfectly fine with everyone potentially not getting it.

    Looking at the work of fashion designers with the mindset of "I wouldn't wear that and I doubt most people would so I don't see why you even created it" is such a conceited mindset to have towards creative works.
     
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    With Apple Music, there is a lot of good stuff. I used Beats Music before it became Apple Music, and they have a decent amount of older stuff. A lot of the music I listen to is from the 80s and 90s, and they have great playlists. You just have to select and play the stuff you like, and it will get better recommendations as you go along.

    As with fashion, Im goth, so Im in a whole other subculture. The music, fashion and aesthetics that go along with it, in whatever gothic subgenre, is a big part of me. I take pride in the fact that I can be myself, both in a goth way and my gender and sexual identity.

    But a lot of things come and go with time, and fashion is no exception.
     
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    I was thinking earlier that I hate the fact that everyone needs a damn cell phone and FB account to be able to keep up with anything happening and not feel totally out of place. I miss being able to ride my bike down the street to see if a friend was home, and if they weren't, on to the next.
     
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    Fashion is stupid. I don't care about fashion. I just wear a lot of shorts/jeans, shirts, and jackets/button up shirts over my underlayer. That's my thing. It's what I do. Fashion sucks and I could give less of a crap about it. It's fun trying new things sometimes though but I'm not buying ridiculous dresses and skirts I can barely move in.

    As for music, it's okay. Rap is stupid but some of the modern beats are fairly nice and they get stuck in my head. I prefer more slow pop or indie pop sound. Something that won't slowly kill my ears. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:
     
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    Me and fashion don't mix. Never has. I kinda enjoy going against the current in the slopiest way I can think of... It's more entertaining than listening to pop and modern hip hop...

    I'm getting fed up of social media (except youtube, and ec if it counts)... I personally don't have any social media, but it's clear to see what it's done to society... It's less of a way of telling a friend or two about something your impressed by or proud of a whatever. Something like facebook has just turned into a disgusting mess of cat videos and pictures of every single little thing that a person does. My mother does it and my sister does it. Earlier this week my mum got a book as a birthday gift, and felt like she had to put it on facebook. She made jam, and put it on facebook. She got clothes and put it on facebook. It's less of a quick thing that spends 5 minutes to do a week, it's turned into a lifestyle of constant checking and it's driving me up the wall at the moment. Then again so is the tapping on apple product touchscreen keypads, but thats a rant for another day...
     
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    I think thanks to the internet there has actually never been a better time to explore and discover new and non-mainstream music, pandora, spotify, last.fm all make this quite easy - and then you have YouTube and forums like this one etc - I've spent my entire life trying to stay away from the radio. The thing is I'm slowly wondering if truthfully that's the right thing to do, you always get sick of whatever it is you listen to - I've been wondering more and more if I'd be happier listening to chart music and mainstream music, having more in common with other people, listening to stuff that hundreds of thousands of other people also like, not having to search so hard to find new releases etc

    With fashion I'm pretty crap and uninterested but I'm always envious of people who know what clothes look good on them, and can dress themselves really well, no matter what style or how cheap the clothes are - I've met guys and girls who dress so well - even though they only get their stuff from second hand shops - it drives me crazy.
     
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    I think that's quite a sweeping generalisation and in my view a mischaracterisation of how art is received by the public. There exists a distinct difference between shallowly striving to appear intellectually superior and genuinely wanting to achieve a better understanding of the self and humanity through art. I think the cynicism of the former isn't really that accurate in many or most cases.

    I understand that many have a dislike of less practical areas of life such as the fashion industry's obsession with the glamour of their high-end shows, but I just don't think that a philistinic insistence on practicality is much better or any less shallow. Just as metaphysics isn't particularly practical, per se, but still quite valuable and the product of many people's lives of dedicated work, I think it's too easy to criticise something like the fashion industry or the art world, that doesn't feel particularly relevant to our own lives, without really needing to do so.

    A lot of artistic movements, such as Dadaism and Surrealism, have been criticised for being frivolous and bizarre, but art serves both as a valuable reflection of societies and beliefs and as an influence on how we perceive our world. Art theory is infamously confusing and inconclusive, but that it's not easy accessible and consumable doesn't mean it's frivolous.
     
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