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Do you sometimes sound like a social justice warrior?

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by sporn, Sep 6, 2015.

  1. sporn

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    I like to use words like heteronormativity and queer. Kind of scared it makes me seem like a social justice warrior. Any better words?
     
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    Honestly, the kind of person who think talking about issues we face makes you a "social justice warrior" is the kind of person not worth wasting your time or thoughts on.
     
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    Ditto the above.

    I mean, my definition of 'social justice warrior' as opposed to just 'a person who cares about social justice' is a user of that particular style of social justice employed by tumblr sj majority.

    You know the kind: infinite spiralling discourse (see the Bi vs Pan "You're oppressive!" "No, you're oppressive!" debate), rife with 'callouts', defending the use of 'bun' as a pronoun, policing which characters people want to make smooch with each other, etc.

    The reclaiming of the word "queer" has been around for long, long before tumblr sj started to flourish. And "heteronormative" is a really handy word, in my opinion, much quicker than the alternative. If people think you're a tumblr sj devotee just because you use some of the shorthand, I'd certainly side-eye them for that.
     
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    Mention mental health and I will "sjw" all over your ass.

    I'm not going to go all aBlEiSm!!1! OpPrEsSiOn!!! On anyone but. I'm passionate about it, and I'm quickly heated. Sometimes, I'll be the first to admit, a little past what's reasonable.

    But as the previous posters mentioned, it's a big difference between being a sjw and being just socially aware. No one here has been running around playing Oppression Olympics crying about die cishet scum. Which honestly surprised me. Pleasantly!

    Vocabulary is vocabulary. Yeah they made half the shit up, but it's useful. It's a word that sums up a concept we're all familiar with and makes it easier to communicate. It's how you use them that is the difference between a tumblr sjw and someone who's aware of issues and wants to work to correct them.
     
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    Those are academic words to refer to very real things. Just because some misguided people scream it at people without fully understand their implication doesn't mean you cannot use them for an actual discussion.

    On a side notes, sometimes there are people call "sjw" when all I see is just someone being a decent human being and consider others' feelings...I think everyone need to calm down. But that would be too much to ask on the internet.
     
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    If somebody uses the term "social justice warrior" or "sjw" in relation to someone else, I immediately lose most (if not all) respect for that person and his or her opinions. I don't concern myself with how I sound to people I don't respect.
     
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    Frankly, I don't even know the meaning of the term. I just heard that semi-delusional guy (Roosh V) whining against SJWs. But seeing how he actually advocates rape, gender roles, racism...then logically I should side with the SJWs than with him.
     
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    You're choice of words doesn't make you a social justice warrior. It's more of you're ability to engage in rational discourse and how quickly you'll fall back on words like 'misogyny' instead of offering counterpoints in an argument.

    SJW's are just close-minded people who take on progressive issues without fully understanding them, and throw around terminology they googled that one time and act like they know what's going on and if anyone dares to question their reason they claim they are under personal attack and use name calling and smearing tactics instead of engaging in any sort of actual communication.

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    Roosh V is a friggin idiot. Like seriously he's just an idiot. I was watching the drunken peasants podcast and they were watching a video where he was advocating for legalizing rape on private property because according to him it'd "Reduce the rate of rape" and I was baffled at how stupid that was, and they drunken peasants were laughing their butts off at how stupid that guy is.
     
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    This. As someone who does want to minor in Social Justice (Social Work minor for non-SW majors) I think people who try to deflect actual problems with society by labelling the people who bring the points up as "Social Justice Warriors" are a bigger problem. There are some people who advocate for Social Justice that go too far, but that's the case in every group; there's a spectrum of what the people in that faction believe and the intensity in which they advocate for them.
     
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    I disagree with that sentiment.

    The problem isn't opening the floor for discussion. I'm very opposed to the SJW's out there, but I actually do want to engage in these dialogs. I like concepts like this, and there are a lot of things that need to be looked at in society and fixed.

    I really hate this idea of "We should ignore the extremists" because when you ignore the extremists and don't address their insanity new people coming in who aren't familiar with the concepts and terminology get sucked into those extreme views or get completely turned away from the concept altogether.

    Ignoring a problem only makes the problem worse.


    There is a lot of extremism in the Social Justice movement, and it does need to be talked about because they take center stage and it's turned a lot of people away from even discussing the issues that social justice wants to discuss.
     
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    Except that I didn't say that we should ignore people who are deemed extremists. I think we need to actually realize that these people aren't speaking for the entire population for which they claim to be speaking. There's a huge difference there.
     
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    I can recognize the difference and I imagine you can as well, but what about people who are new to the subject matter entirely? If someone's introduction to social Justice is an SJW what then?

    And I can tell you it happens a lot because SJW's like to take the spotlight and be as loud as possible on any issue no matter how mundane or non-serious it really is.
     
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    I feel social justice warrior is simply someone who gives assholes a dose of their own medicine. lol
     
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    Oh no, I'm nothing like them, I'm sure Social Justice warriors would consider me a misogynistic rape enablist and want to castrate me or whatever.
     
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    There is a high probability of that.
     
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    Well it certainly is a good thing that nobody, especially outside of the internet cares about anything they have to say.
     
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    Yeah that is a plus, though they do create a negative online enviorment a lot of times and they have put a lot of online entertainers in a position where they can't fully express themselves creatively without fear of reprecution, and if they don't 100% conform to the extremist ideology they come under attack.
     
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    I can see how that could get annoying but then again If it was me in that position I would probably just laugh about it for a minute and then go back to making videos.
     
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    Well they use tactics like flagging videos to get them taken down, filing false copywrite claims to stop videos, they report entire channels and try to get them removed, and flood the comment sections with hate and vitrol.

    They also have heavy control in Gaming journalism which gives them a lot of power over indie game developers which forces a lot of them to either conform to whatever standards they set or not get any coverage for their games and thus face financial ruin. They use whatever tactic they can come up with to silence anyone they don't agree with and they have no remorse about it.

    Hell I know of several cases of them sending death threats, giving out people's personal information, and they have even mailed threatening things to people before.

    They mailed used needles to one guy along with several death threats.
     
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