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Gay for pay? Interesting concept ...

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by Tightrope, Sep 20, 2015.

  1. Tightrope

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    We might have heard the term "gay for pay." This refers to a heterosexual male who either hustles or appears in porn to make money because they have the looks and other requirements, and the money is supposedly better than if they did what they could with the skills they have.

    I might have less issue understanding "gay for pay" if it's someone doing it to survive on the streets or if in print media. Some people unfortunately end up in bad predicaments and they find themselves hustling on the streets of major cities, though I wish they could find other ways to survive. As for porn films, I can't imagine a "gay for pay" person being fully straight. They have to be aroused during the process and they might even perform in a passive role. They are somewhere on the Kinsey spectrum. It doesn't matter where, but they're not a pure Kinsey 0. That's my opinion.

    Just for discussion, what do you think of the accuracy of the term "gay for pay," which sort of implies the person doing it is heterosexual?
     
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    The amount of genuine kinsey 0's is probably very small anyway. I dunno, I could be with a women for a big amount of money. I think it depends on 2 things which is your acting ability and how badly you want he money. Lol
     
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    If you're talking about porn, there are a lot of people (almost always men) who are genuinely gay for pay... meaning, they genuinely have zero same-sex interest off-camera, and many have wives or girlfriends, but do what they do for the money.

    If you're talking about prostitution, there are plenty of genuinely gay-for-pay people there, too, but those situations are often more fueled by the need to fund a drug addiction.

    Outside of that, there are fair number of guys who use porn as a safe(?) way of exploring their sexual orientation... it gives plausible deniability ("Oh, I was just doing that for the money"). Of course the problem with any porn work is, it's out there forever, so I think if someone really thought that through, they would probably not choose porn as a means of experimentation. But a lot of people don't think it through. I'm sure that some of that happens in prostitution as well.
     
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    Prostitution-wise, the first thing that came to mind was Leo DiCaprio in The Basketball Diaries.

    Porn-wise, I think there are genuinely heterosexual males out there doing it purely for the pay, but there are others, I think, that do fall somewhere on the Kinsey scale. An example being Johnny Rapid. Alls I've ever seen him do is bottom.
     
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    To many people in the porn industry, it's just a job.

    As I understand it, they're able to create a disconnect in their minds between the act of having sex (their job) and the feelings and emotions involved with sexual/romantic attraction and/or sexual enjoyment (what they do in their own time). That goes for gay, straight and 'gay for pay' workers.

    And hustling - most of us can't comprehend what it would take to get to that point, but in their minds it's a means to survival. Survival meaning actually staying alive in the "community" they're in - and/or - not feeling like they're going to die from withdrawals of some kind. Possibly also the basic human need of interaction with other humans.

    That's my understanding of it anyway.
     
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    There's a lot of truth to this. There was some discussion, a few years back, of the psychological impact on straight men of repeatedly doing gay-for-pay. The problem is, for example, that the physical sensations of bottoming can feel really, really awesome, whether you are gay or straight... and that having a guy, who knows what feels good, suck your dick can also feel really awesome, and so these straight guys can have really intense orgasm experiences while doing porn... while still feeling absolutely no sexual attraction to the person they're with. I'd assume the same could be true for escorts who do gay-for-pay.

    If they're at all uncomfortable with who they are or their sexual orientation, it can create very complicated feelings, anxiety, and depression. A couple of studios who have models who are under contract provide counseling and therapy to help understand and process those feelings. That's pretty rare, of course, but it is something that can really help those who might feel some confusion as a result of their experiences.
     
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    Do prostitutes feel sexual attraction to all of their clients? No, they suck it up (pun not intended, I assure you!) and deal with it.

    Some gay-for-pay individuals won't bottom, only top, because they feel that would make them gay. Not, you know, rolling around naked with another man.
     
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    In my rule book, if the " gay for pay" guy only gets sucked, and then fucks his scene partner, then he could possibly still be considered straight. But, if he puts a penis in his mouth and/or asshole, then he's at least Bisexual.
     
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    Money can motivate people to do things they wouldn't normally. Straight men are capable of fitting a penis in their mouths.
     
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    Yes to both statements. But, a 100% straight man wouldn't have Gay sex no matter how much money he gets paid. Like I said, he's at least Bisexual or maybe just curious.
     
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    Uh, no. That simply isn't true. If you disagree, please cite your sources.

    There are plenty of 100% straight men who, for the right price, will bottom or perform oral on another guy. What someone is willing to do for money, and what someone's sexual orientation are have absolutely zero correlation.
     
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    Reminds me of the dares that would be thrown around as kids. "Would you give a blow job for $5 dollars, would you do it for $10 dollars, how about $1,000?" At some point, everyone has a price.

    That said, secretly, I would have done it for free back then!
     
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    Everyone has a price $$, don't kid yourself. With the use of modern pharma, the most homophobic man can and will perform at full mast. Gay for Pay?
     
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    That's silly, and only perpetuates the myth that the dominant partner can still be considered straight/masculine/the man, while the other always = "fag".

    Plenty of straight women do it all with another in "lesbian porn", but they're not held to the same rigid standards.

    I don't believe behavior alone should be used as a gauge of sexuality.
     
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    I wouldn't do gay porn for money at all (so straight porn is out of the question, obviously)! I'd rather starve than expose myself to anybody else than my boyfriend/husband.
     
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    I love this gay for pay idea, only I don't wanna have to do anything sexual, or even anything in particular for it. I just wanna be paid for being gay, period. After all, I am broke most of the time and work way too much, and this would be a great way to be better able to get by, and have time to focus on writing, and doing what I love and has meaning as opposed to just working a dull job to get by.

    Therefor, I advocate a new, get-paid-to-be gay program, where I get a generous tax deduction, unlimited airline travel, free rental cars, free groceries, and a villa on the French Riviera. I don't wanna come across as greedy, or anything, and will limit my modest requests here.
     
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    Are you implying that women matter?
     
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    Gay or straight, everyone has a mouth, everyone has an asshole, and everyone has hands (at least I hope you do)

    The reason gay people get fucked in the ass is because it also derives pleasure (or at least that's what I've been told :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:) That's something that even straight men can get as well, they have a prostate too. So yea, for the right price, straight men can and will get fucked, suck dick etc.

    Even if they didn't necessarily like it, there's a disconnect, sorta like any other job.

    It's sorta like working at McDonald's and hating the food, or being vegan.
     
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    I dunno if its like working at mcdonalds cause your not getting paid to eat the food.

    Anyway, I would so this. >_>
     
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    Well I mean, the food is half off or free sometimes :grin: