Are transracial and transspecies people problematic to the LGBT community

Yes.

 

Yes, it is incredibly concerning.

 

I definitely see where you are coming from. Many people would assume this is the exact same thing as transgender and cast both aside as 'not real' or something like that.

 

Yes, definitely. I agree with everything you've said!

 

Yeah, people say a lot of stuff. I hope that through education we can overcome ignorance. It does seem like an upwards struggle at some point, but at the end of the day, either we can teach people that being transgender is serious or we can fail, and have all these fake identities as equally accepted as us. And while the first is preferable in most ways, the 2nd is still an improvement over outright hating everyone different. <3

 

In addition to my previous post of simply "Yes.", time to go on a little rant

it's complete and utter bullshit. and a disgrace to actual transpeople. I'm fine with transwomen, transmen, and non-binaries. Being "transracial" or "transpecies" is not a real thing. Why is transracial impossible? Because there are no hormones to have your brain wired like another race.

It's like this:

Estrogen = female hormone
Testosterone = male hormone

There's no such thing as "black hormone" or "white hormone", or whatever race you want to put out there. There are only male and female hormones. How much of each hormone you were exposed to can have an effect on gender identity or sexuality.

The same thing goes for... what are they called, otherkin? Something like that? Y'know, the people who claim to be a "cat trapped in a human's body" or some bullshit like that. Yet again, it is scientifically impossible to have a brain wired like a cat's, because humans are not cats. Even then, male and female cats have testosterone and estrogen in them. Again, there is no such thing as a "cat hormone".

And transage? Do I even have to get started on that one?

I wish people outside of the community would stop associating being transgender with being "transspecies", "transage", and "transracial". They are not the same, never will be, and as a transguy, I find these people ridiculous and insulting. I swear to god if anybody sticks up for their identities I'm hopping on the "I'm sick of this political correct shit." train, too.

 

As one of the most conservative people in this forum, I totally see where you're going with this. And it's true, it is going too far. While I do understand cases like that trans-age person are extremely rare and most probably fake, the way it got attached to the LGBT community is, for lack of better words, insultingly stupid.

The idea of the LGBT community is to generate common ground for our people in the context of gender identity and sexual orientation. If at any point it attempts to grow beyond that, it will start losing credibility fast. And if people suddenly start believing we're "so open minded" that we accept someone who thinks himself a horse as completely sane, then we have a problem.

The main problem comes when people fail to distinguish rational thinking and confuse it for being open minded. Being open minded can, sometimes, be a naive approach on life, because one gives more importance to acceptance than common sense. If anything, we should strive as a community to show ourselves as rational thinkers, and condemn movements that go this far. We should show we know there are limits, and maybe even apply some extra limits to our own behaviours.

 

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I'll just leave this video from Collegehumor here on the subject.

 

Ok, I'm going to disagree with most people here.
I'm a cisgendered gay guy, closer to the masculine side of the spectrum (at least that's what I think haha).

I just read the article on the transaged girl and watched the video too. Yeah, when I saw ''transage'' I laughed, but after reading it I thought the girl was quite serious about it. Does it look ridiculous that a father of seven suddenly becomes a 6-year-old girl? Yes, but lots of people still think that a man or a woman that leaves their family to become a transgender are still ridiculous.

And what's up with you guys, fearing that society won't take you seriously if they associate transgender with other kinds of trans people? You sound like those masculine gay guys that fear being associated with feminine ones, because ''oh no, those femme guys make me look so bad, what is the more conservative folk going to think about me?!''

Shouldn't we all live by the principle that people should be free to live the way they want to?

* Sorry if this sounded aggressive or something, it's really not supposed to

 

False equivalence. Again, let's not sitch out rational thinking in favor of being open minded. Sure, it's great to be open minded BUT we must use rational thinking to draw the line somewhere and transage, transracial, and otherkin is where I would say it's too far. Their is no biological basis for these.

 

eh probably. I'm personally fine with it as long as they aren't annoying about it.

 

I hate to say this, but personally I think the trans-racial, trans-age, and trans-species thing is a little bizarre.

1. Your race should never matter in the first place, so I don't understand why anyone would want to undergo something like that.

2. Unless you've stumbled upon the fountain of youth, you can never erase the years you've been on this earth or your date of birth. I'm all for "you're only as young as you feel" but this is stretching it.

3. I wanted to be an animal when I was a kid, and for one day out of the year I got to be one...Halloween...don't see why they'd want to be an animal for reals and I'm sure the little kittens will still see this man as a human so that's really pointless.

But that's just my opinion. I'm down with PC Principal (South Park reference) but this is where I'd draw the line. I can't really bash these people who are willing to undergo these major transitions, but I can say they probably will be lumped in with transexual and transgender people because the same arguments could be used in all scenarios.

For example: People who go through a gender/sexual transition usually say it's because they've always felt a stronger connection with the opposite sex; so who are we to say that because a man feels more of a connection to a cat that he can't do it? Maybe it's not always about the brain, maybe it's the matters of the heart and him being happy by being what he feels he should have been all along.

I'm pretty much saying that you can't be pro-transexual and anti-trans-species (or possibly anything else) without seeming or sounding like a hypocrite; or better yet those same people who disagree with transgender people because it's "outlandish" and "unnatural".

 

Beat me too it :lol:
Ughhhh...

 

I just read the story about the transage thing and, wow...

That person needs help... I can't say they're not transgender, but a transgender person is still the age that they are. Sure, I can understand longing for a lost childhood, but this is not the way to do it. Still, it's better than dying, I suppose. They should get counseling to for grieve their childhood properly.

This is sad that we are mixed in with those kinds of people because obviously, that person has underlying problems. As for transracials and otherkin, I don't believe they should be seen as similar to transpeople. Nope, melanin doesn't have any impacts on your brain, believe it or not. It's not like hormones.

 

Transage does have some logic to it if you think about it, because there is proof that some people have the psychological brains of a different age- especially with certain disabilities. It is completely 100% possible for someone to be technically 25 but be mentally 5 years old. By law, these people do in fact need their parents to be their legal guardians and give parental consent to certain activities- they cannot and shouldn't be treated like an adult.

Transrace and Transspecies does not because there is no psychological proof behind it.

 

Couldn't agree more.