My School Started an Allies Program - Empty Closets - A safe online community for gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered people coming out

Joey · 10th Feb 2009, 02:50 PM

Hmmm, this is very interesting. Email reads as follows:

"Allies is a Mount student led organization (affiliated with Campus Ministry) for women and men with homosexual inclinations and those who care for them. It will provide a welcoming environment, pastoral outreach, a positive social outlet and dialogue reflecting on relevant issues including the dignity and gift of each and every person.

Allies strives to promote and live the Christian call to healthy relationships, compassion, chastity and justice.

For more information about meeting time and location, please contact"

The wording on the first paragraph sounds a bit awkward in my opinion. Should be interesting to check out.

TheRoof · 10th Feb 2009, 02:58 PM

sure it sounds interesting. so this is LGBT group?

Wander · 10th Feb 2009, 05:14 PM

So straight people are just heterosexual, gay people have "homosexual inclinations"?

I smell bullshit.

Joey · 10th Feb 2009, 05:15 PM

Yup... that's why I thought the wording was a bit... off. I don't know. Haha, it is a catholic institution dealie so I'm a bit wary of this one.

BlakeHarmony · 10th Feb 2009, 05:21 PM

I noticed the "pastoral outreach"
...does that sounds like and "ex-gay" dealy to anyone else?

**Maddy** · 10th Feb 2009, 05:33 PM

It sounds to me like it'll try some sort of 'conversion therapy', but maybe I'm just cynical.

Alexander · 10th Feb 2009, 07:42 PM

Sounds like a chapter of Courage. www.couragerc.net Stay away!

Stuie · 10th Feb 2009, 08:12 PM

The "homosexual inclinations" makes me highly suspicious. I'd find out more but be very suspicious. Be forewarned!

IamAninja · 10th Feb 2009, 08:44 PM

I agree with everyone else. It sounds a little bull-shitty.
What is the "christian call to healthy relationships" supposed to be?

Fiorino · 11th Feb 2009, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Alexander

Sounds like a chapter of Courage. www.couragerc.net Stay away!

Oh my god-those people are working on a youth site.
Quick-EC do something! Make EC pop up on a google
search for "catholic homosexual inclinations".

11th Feb 2009, 07:03 AM

I honestly don't think it sounds like such a bad thing, and the critiscism being directed towrds i think is quite unfair

xequar · 11th Feb 2009, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wander

So straight people are just heterosexual, gay people have "homosexual inclinations"?

I smell bullshit.

What you're observing is actually a big part of the Christian anti-gay strategy. They deliberately strive to redefine words to muddle the conversation. In Christian parlance, the only people who are "gay" are those who unrepentantly come out as gay and live openly. To Christians, anyone else has "same-sex attraction."

So, for this flyer to use the words "homosexual inclinations" is not only suspicious, it's the dead giveaway. Stay the hell away from this program and work on getting it off campus. All it is is ex-gay Christian bullshit with a bit of perfume sprayed on it.

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Originally Posted by jman1013

I honestly don't think it sounds like such a bad thing, and the critiscism being directed towrds i think is quite unfair

Do some study on ex-gay programs and pay attention to the Christian anti-gay right and how they operate and try to deprive gay people of their rights. If you actually know what they're trying to do and how they operate, you'd understand why there's so much criticism being heaped on this program.

Mitchell · 11th Feb 2009, 02:03 PM

As great a group like that sounds, from the email they are sending out... I personally wouldn't go. They don't make it sound too welcoming or accepting.

Joey · 11th Feb 2009, 06:46 PM

Yeah... definitely sounds a bit suspect the more I mull it over in my mind. One day, I guess I'll check it out and if they chase after me with a cross trying to exorcise my demons I'll slink out...

10th Feb 2009, 02:50 PM	#1
Joey EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: tiny tiny University in northern Maryland Age: 23 Posts: 503 Join Date: Apr 2008	My School Started an Allies Program Hmmm, this is very interesting. Email reads as follows: "Allies is a Mount student led organization (affiliated with Campus Ministry) for women and men with homosexual inclinations and those who care for them. It will provide a welcoming environment, pastoral outreach, a positive social outlet and dialogue reflecting on relevant issues including the dignity and gift of each and every person. Allies strives to promote and live the Christian call to healthy relationships, compassion, chastity and justice. For more information about meeting time and location, please contact" The wording on the first paragraph sounds a bit awkward in my opinion. Should be interesting to check out. __________________ I was smacked in the face with a piece of chicken which was covered in Thousand Island Dressing today... somehow, I know it'll be all right in the end.

10th Feb 2009, 02:58 PM	#2
TheRoof True Blue Full Member Gender: genderqueer Orientation: I like who I like. Location: NY Age: 20 Posts: 1,452 Join Date: Nov 2008	Re: My School Started an Allies Program sure it sounds interesting. so this is LGBT group? __________________ Most people go through life dreading they'll have a traumatic experience. Freaks were born with their trauma. They've already passed their test in life. They're aristocrats. -Diane Arbus-

10th Feb 2009, 05:14 PM	#3
Wander Banned Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Parents, aunts, grandma, counselor, online friends Location: Central Alabama Age: 18 Posts: 2,360 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: My School Started an Allies Program So straight people are just heterosexual, gay people have "homosexual inclinations"? I smell bullshit.

10th Feb 2009, 05:15 PM	#4
Joey EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: tiny tiny University in northern Maryland Age: 23 Posts: 503 Join Date: Apr 2008	Re: My School Started an Allies Program Yup... that's why I thought the wording was a bit... off. I don't know. Haha, it is a catholic institution dealie so I'm a bit wary of this one. __________________ I was smacked in the face with a piece of chicken which was covered in Thousand Island Dressing today... somehow, I know it'll be all right in the end.

10th Feb 2009, 05:21 PM	#5
BlakeHarmony EC Addict Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: queer Out Status: friends, parents, sibs, (nearly) anyone who asks Location: Calgary Posts: 895 Join Date: Jun 2008	Re: My School Started an Allies Program I noticed the "pastoral outreach" ...does that sounds like and "ex-gay" dealy to anyone else? __________________ Let's eat, Grandpa. Let's eat Grandpa. Punctuation saves lives! "I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion" Henry David Thoreau

10th Feb 2009, 05:33 PM	#6
Maddy Free Hugs EC Admin Gender: - Orientation: Into girls Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 7,702 Join Date: Mar 2008	Re: My School Started an Allies Program It sounds to me like it'll try some sort of 'conversion therapy', but maybe I'm just cynical. __________________ how strange it is to be anything at all [Victor] 2:09 pm: and then halloween happened and I was outside in a skirt.

10th Feb 2009, 07:42 PM	#7
Alexander EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Red Hook NY Age: 19 Posts: 2,736 Join Date: Dec 2007	Re: My School Started an Allies Program Sounds like a chapter of Courage. www.couragerc.net Stay away!

10th Feb 2009, 08:12 PM	#8
Stuie Hugs - $POA Full Member Gender: e^(πi) +1 = 0 Orientation: Schnoo Out Status: Moo Cow Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 1,463 Join Date: Aug 2008	Re: My School Started an Allies Program The "homosexual inclinations" makes me highly suspicious. I'd find out more but be very suspicious. Be forewarned! __________________ STRAAAAAAAAAAAWURUWERT AND THE LESBIANS! MADDATRON3000X's (Maddy) Fag Hag Loves Pauline in the form of the equation f(x): (-∞,2) -> R, 2^-x

10th Feb 2009, 08:44 PM	#9
IamAninja Well Known Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Spotsylvania, Virginia Age: 17 Posts: 149 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: My School Started an Allies Program I agree with everyone else. It sounds a little bull-shitty. What is the "christian call to healthy relationships" supposed to be? __________________ The Mathemagician nodded knowingly and stroked his chin several times. “You’ll find,” he remarked gently, “that the only thing you can do easily is be wrong, and that’s hardly worth the effort.” Norton Juster, The Phantom Tollbooth

11th Feb 2009, 07:03 AM	#11
jman1013 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: My School Started an Allies Program I honestly don't think it sounds like such a bad thing, and the critiscism being directed towrds i think is quite unfair

11th Feb 2009, 02:03 PM	#13
Mitchell Gay Guy Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: New Hampshire, USA Age: 20 Posts: 194 Join Date: Feb 2009	Re: My School Started an Allies Program As great a group like that sounds, from the email they are sending out... I personally wouldn't go. They don't make it sound too welcoming or accepting.

11th Feb 2009, 06:46 PM	#14
Joey EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: tiny tiny University in northern Maryland Age: 23 Posts: 503 Join Date: Apr 2008	Re: My School Started an Allies Program Yeah... definitely sounds a bit suspect the more I mull it over in my mind. One day, I guess I'll check it out and if they chase after me with a cross trying to exorcise my demons I'll slink out... __________________ I was smacked in the face with a piece of chicken which was covered in Thousand Island Dressing today... somehow, I know it'll be all right in the end.

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