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Old 28th Feb 2009, 02:23 PM   #1
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Old 28th Feb 2009, 02:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: Your Top 3 Reasons to Legalize Same-Sex Marriage?

3, We're humans too, and marriage is a human right.
2, People can now have marriage for their dogs, cats, rabbits, and other pets. I think that takes away from the sanctity of marriage FAR more than people say gay marriage would.
1, (Totally selfish reason.) If I decide I'm gonna spend my life with a woman OR a man, I'm GONNA walk down an isle in a beautiful white dress. Legally or not.

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Old 28th Feb 2009, 02:31 PM   #3
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1. Because it's none of your business what I do with my life.
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Old 28th Feb 2009, 02:33 PM   #4
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1. We are all god damn humans and we should all be treated equally. This point alone should mean we have gay marriage. If you love someone and want to be with them forever, what to you do? Get married? If your gay your not allowed. That seems like we are upholding decent human equality.

2. Separation of church and state, so none of this religious bull as a reason not to. Marriage is not a religious thing anymore. Your not required to sing in a gospel choir before you get married. Many heterosexual atheists get married and you dont bitch at them for tainting your sacred union. Divorce is at a higher rate than ever, so dont say to me marriage is some sacred thing.

3. Because you cant say you accept gays but then turn around and tell them they dont get the same rights as you, if you say that you really dont accept gays you just tolerate them. If you talk you talk, you better damn walk that walk! You dont get to ride the guilt-free train just because you say you accept everyone and then turn around and say only man and woman can love eachother
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Default Re: Your Top 3 Reasons to Legalize Same-Sex Marriage?

Only have one:"I didn't get to vote on your marriage.
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Old 28th Feb 2009, 03:54 PM   #6
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Default Re: Your Top 3 Reasons to Legalize Same-Sex Marriage?

1. To put an end to gay sex.
2. After a while all marriages are same sex. The same 'ol sex over and over.
3. It has one big advantage over straight marriage. After the sex stops you still have someone to watch the game with.
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Old 28th Feb 2009, 03:58 PM   #7
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Default Re: Your Top 3 Reasons to Legalize Same-Sex Marriage?

I don't care as much for myself,as I probably won't ever marry,but I'll fight tooth and nail,for other gay people to marry. It's a Constitutional right and WE ARE AMERICANS,just like everyone else! And...yeah,nobody should be able to vote others rights away,just because they don't like something.
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Old 28th Feb 2009, 04:14 PM   #8
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I have 5. This is taken from a blog I created a while ago on another site when I was looking at gay marriage in Sociology and exploring research on it:

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Yep, I'm back once again to rant about the silly arguments people use against gay rights and to try and dispute them. Today I'm focusing on the usual arguments I hear for opposing gay marriage.

First off, I find it interesting how people claim to support gay rights and not be homophobic, and yet as soon as you ask their opinion on gay marriage they suddenly stop dead in their tracks and tell you to run on without them. It's lovely of them to support us having equal rights with things like housing and healthcare, but surely marriage is one of the basic human rights that anybody should be expected to have? Yet these 'supporters' have no interest in supporting that because of numerous bullshit reasons.

1) Marriage is an institution between one man and one woman.

Only because they let it be. There is nothing in the world that states marriage has to be that way for all eternity, nor is there anything to suggest changing the definition of marriage will cause the world to implode. Marriage has been changed numerous times to make room for divorce and even to allow inter-racial marriage. Despite this marriage is still stable and represents the love that two people share for each other, and yet two same-sex people being in love is seen as inferior and damaging? Jeez. This argument offers no compelling moral argument to say why gay marriage shouldn't be allowed and is nothing more than prejudice wrapped up in a sugar coating. I would rather people came out and said they think being gay is wrong rather than try and justify their idiocy with flawed arguments which offer no argument or substance to a debate. Saying a marriage is an institution between a man and a woman is a ridiculous argument because we not only know that already (what do you think we're campaigning for people?!), but it has been changed many times to make way for changes in marriage and yet it still hasn't been affected in any way whatsoever, despite people claiming it would. Unless people can offer one concrete reason for opposing gay marriage then rights shouldn't be denied simply because of opinions.

2) Gay couples are unable to procreate, which goes against marriage.

Oh dear, looks like infertile couples can no longer marry then. Oh, and any ladies who hit the menopause will also not be allowed to marry or will have their marriage annulled now that they cannot have children. Not...
I'm actually shocked people will try and justify this argument because it's irrelevant to what marriage is. First they're arguing it's a sacred institution between one man and one woman, and next it's all about the children? One side or the other people.
Furthermore, since when was the world in danger of being under-populated? I am constantly hearing in Sociology lessons about how the world is becoming overpopulated. It's not like if you don't offer a same-sex couple a marriage license they are suddenly going to go "Ah well, lets split up and go have children". I'm not convinced that allowing gay marriage is going to put the human race at risk of dying out, nor do I see it as being an excuse for banning marriage. Especially considering some gay couples have children, but even that isn't socially desirable for these people.

3) Same-sex marriage will ruin marriage.

Ah right, two loving people of the same sex getting married is so much more damaging than forced marriage, abusive marriages and other issues which we are very well aware of. Look at Britney Spear's sham marriage in Vegas. Are people really going to tell me that same-sex marriage ruins the institution of marriage more than her?
Perhaps I am missing the point here, but how does allowing somebody to marry ruin marriage? It just has no logic. Now what does ruin marriage? Making it out that being gay is wrong. Denying them the right to show that their love is equal to anybody elses, and willingly putting them into a heterosexual marriage even though they will be unhappy emotionally and sexually. There are lots of people who are in heterosexual marriages and they are gay, and opposers to gay marriage tell me that doesn't ruin the institution of marriage? It seems to me like their argument is nothing short of ignorance, and they just conveniently turn the other cheek when arguments like this are presented to them.

4) Churches would be forced to marry same-sex couples despite opposing such a ceremony.

Funny, there was me thinking churches already had the right to refuse to marry any couple they wish. I forgot that gay-marriage would remove that right because we're all begging for 'special' rights. This is sarcasm by the way.
Marriage is not controlled by churches so I am not sure why this argument is used as a measure for banning gay-marriage. I am all for churches having the right to ban such a marriage in their institution, but to put pressure on the state to ban any type of same-sex marriage ceremony is out of line. A religious wedding is not the only type of marriage in society, so why are religious groups preventing same-sex marriage happening even in registry offices that have no religious connection whatsoever? It makes no sense.
If churches do not want to marry somebody then that is their right, but that should be enforced inside their group and not forced upon wider society. Their argument can only be applied to their group members and their property. It cannot be applied on wider society. The argument doesn't take away the rights of churches, if anything it gives them the right to marry gay couples which some have stated they would like to do before, thus increasing the freedom of religion.

5) Gay couples do not offer the correct environment for children.

Hang onnnnn, one minute ago they were claiming they do not procreate and now they are moaning that children should not be brought up in such an environment? Is there actually any way to win here?
Now, lets just indulge their idiocy for a second and go along with what they think. A same-sex marriage will have a bad affect on a child, and yet divorce and single-parenting is perfectly legal? Another thing I don't get about this argument is that if marriage is all about the children then why are they willing to let murderers, rapists, paedophiles and any other type of undesirable character get married and have children? If they think that type of marriage causes less damage to a child than a same-sex marriage then they are more deluded than I thought.
Furthermore, it makes no sense to ban gay couples from adopting, and then try and ban them from marriage because they do not procreate or offer a stable home. They're two arguments that completely contradict each other. They cannot deny people the right to adopt, and then deny them the right to marry because THEY took away the rights to adopt.
Finally, scientific studies have shown that children cope better in married, stable families that offer love and commitment. The gender of the parents has so little affect that psychologists have ruled it insignificant, so these people who say otherwise are talking out their backside. For good measure I shall provide you with a link of references to the studies: http://www.bidstrup.com/parenbib.htm
The sexuality of a person does not make them a better or worse parent. They are completely seperate issues.

Conclusion:

The real reason people are against gay-marriage is because they have been exposed to these flawful arguments since they were born. Marriage is only an institution between a man and a woman because society makes it that way, but that definition can be changed at any time. There are numerous countries around the world that have changed the definition and their marriage system hasnt failed, nor are they marrying animals or family members.

What many people seem afraid of is the exposure children will have to homosexuality. It seems people believe that we actually try and recruit people and encourage people to become gay (like it's a choice), but last time I checked we weren't the ones offering therapy to change somebodys sexuality. If anything it's homophobes who do everything they can to try and change a gay persons sexuality (conversion therapy anybody?) and yet they are using that argument against us?

The moral reasons for denying same-sex marriage are flawed. It was only 100 years ago that a black person being seen with a white person made people feel uneasy, and yet society changed because of the rights given to them that showed us they are equal. Bigots disagreed with such rights and claimed it would make society go stale, but as per usual they were wrong and society advanced. As there is nothing to suggest that gay marriage will destroy society it makes no sense for them to use such flawed arguments as a ground to deny somebody of their basic human rights.

We don't get to vote on their marriage so they shouldn't get to vote on ours. It's as simple as that.
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Old 28th Feb 2009, 04:22 PM   #10
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I kinda don't believe in marriage. whether my love for someone is recognised legally or not doesn't make my love any less. I would like maybe a party or something to celebrate the anniversary of when we met or whatever and invite all of our closest friends but other than that I can't see the point of it! Doesn't mean I won't if he wants to though...

My real reason is that I want it to be known that I love no different than a straight person!

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3. Pretty white dress and cake... and cake.
2. Because my mom's never seen any of her children have a nice wedding.
1. It's romaaaaaaaantic. ♥

Top One Reason to Not Legalize Same-Sex Marriage:
Because if two women got married, there would be a Bachelorette party, but where would the guys go to party? D:

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Old 28th Feb 2009, 06:06 PM   #12
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I only have one reason.. I'm not interested in marriage personally as I don't see the need for a certificate to say you love someone.

I simply want to see everyone equal.. no more no less
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1.Love is love!
2.Everyone(including gay/lesbians) deserves to get married to their lover!
3.I have a gay cousin who wants to get married!
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1. nobody is a second class citizen.
2. Massachusetts and Canada already allow it so the rest of the world needs to smarten up.
3. it will upset others which makes me giggle.
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1. "all men are created equal"

2. "life, liberty, and the pursute of happiness"

3. marrage by defonition is the union of two people in love
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Old 11th Mar 2009, 06:41 PM   #16
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Whenever someone tells me how the definition of marriage has always been the same I don't need to give them 3 reasons, I only need to remind them of miscegenation during the Jim Crow days, you know...the same laws that were also 'democratically set' by the majority against a minority

and besides, marriage is not a religious term, wasn't created by religion, and isn't owned by a particular religion or denomination...so I could give two shits what their scriptures define marriage as
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1) I dont know if ill end up with a girl or a guy. but I AM WALKING DOWN AN AISLE IN A WHITE DRESS TO THE LOVE OF MY LIFE SO WE CAN PROMISE OURSELVES TO EACH OTHER!!!! lol not very good reason but hec its wat i think
2)marriage is a promise between two people to love and be true to them always and forever. denying us marriage is denying us love. if those that dont want us to b married dont love us thats their problem. but there are people tat do love us. even if u dont believe tat. everyone is loved and should be loved. how would u feel if someone told you tat u dont love cant love and shouldnt be loved? what would u do if someone told you that u cant marry the person u love? wouldnt u fight for them?
3)why do u get to vote on whether we hav same sex marriage and we dont get to vote on whether u can get married?
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Since Arizona is currently in a very bad economic place right now (along with the rest of the country) I am thinking very economically right now.

Somebody would be making money off of these gay weddings. I'm sure there would be some really flamboyant and awesome ones.
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