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| Member Regular Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Not sure (still trying to figure it out) Out Status: 5 of my closest friends. Location: Tennessee Age: 21 Posts: 42 Join Date: Feb 2009 | Ok. So I know that sounds like the most idiotic question ever. Here's the issue: I have had intimate sexual relations with one woman. We talked about it, and both of us decided that we consider it sex, not just "messing around" and count it as losing our virginities. I told my best friend , who is bisexual, that I had had sex. She told me that sex between two women without using some kind of artificial penis is not legitimate sex, that only heterosexual sex and sex between two homosexual males count, and homosexual sex is still a "lesser" form. This is extremely insulting to me. I have tried to talk to her about it, but it always ends with me getting upset, because she is very closed-minded about it. Whenever people talk about sex, or losing their virginities, or anything like that, I try to tell my story, or add a comment, or basically participate in the conversation. My friend always brings up the fact that "You ARE a virgin. You don't even get to talk." After hearing it so often and so vehemently, I've started to believe her. Any thoughts? Is Homosexual sex real sex? |
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| Member Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Civilian friends, all family Location: Currently in Afghan until June 2011 :( limited net Posts: 83 Join Date: Feb 2009 | Homosexual sex is real sex.. I think some peoples hangup is on the penetration side of things, In my book you don't need to be penetrated to call it sex. I don't believe sex should be defines as just penetrative.. there is something called oral ![]() |
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| Banned ![]() Gender: I walk on the line you're not 'supposed' to cross. Orientation: Gay Out Status: I wasn't ever in. Location: Bumblefuck, Illinois Posts: 997 Join Date: Jul 2008 | I'd say, if you consider this event "losing your virginity" than that's what it is. No one can tell you that it's not. They weren't there. I mean, it's sex. It may not be typical baby-making heterosexual sex, but it's still sex. |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | I have a definition of what I think sex is: Any combination of anus, genitals and mouth. This doesn't include anus-anus or mouth-mouth. Sound good? ![]() |
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| Killer Queen Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Wilde Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Macon, GA Posts: 494 Join Date: Sep 2008 | I secound Numfarh
__________________ Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which ones to keep. -Scott Adams |
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| DFTBA Full Member ![]() Gender: Somewhere between female and I don't know Out Status: Open, not out. Location: Northern California, United States Age: 18 Posts: 2,380 Join Date: Jul 2008 | I third.
__________________ "The opposite of love is not hate, but fear" Forrest Church |
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| Banned ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Parents, aunts, grandma, counselor, online friends Location: Central Alabama Age: 18 Posts: 2,360 Join Date: Jan 2008 | I have no clue why some people think it only "counts" if something gets penetrated. And why does it matter if it "counts" anyway? So you can know exactly how many times you had "complete" sex? "Yeah, I've had it seven and a third times now, because the eighth time wasn't quite real". |
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| Dork Full Member Gender: Male Location: Georgia (the state) Posts: 2,065 Join Date: Feb 2009 | |
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| Happily Married! :) EC Moderator ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out and about. Location: Stoughton, Massachusetts USA Age: 43 Posts: 4,288 Join Date: Jun 2008 | 5th here!
__________________ I'm beautiful in my way, 'Cause God makes no mistakes I'm on the right track, baby I was Born This Way -Lady Gaga |
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| Banned ![]() Gender: I walk on the line you're not 'supposed' to cross. Orientation: Gay Out Status: I wasn't ever in. Location: Bumblefuck, Illinois Posts: 997 Join Date: Jul 2008 | 6th. |
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| Rainbow Philosopher Full Member ![]() Gender: XY Orientation: Guylove (between 2 guys) Out Status: 3 people. Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Age: 19 Posts: 2,736 Join Date: Aug 2007 | 7th that. Best definition ever! Also I think people who are in denial about them losing their virginity will tell other people that sex has to involve a penis and a vagina.
__________________ "Do you think so little of me that if I had a choice, I'd choose to live my life dodging prejudice and discrimination?" ![]() |
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| No Artificial Preservatives Regular Member ![]() Gender: Female Location: Northeast Posts: 389 Join Date: Sep 2008 | The power of the penis compels you! |
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| [Un]friendly Fanboy Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Let's Go. Out Status: Everyone Location: SoCal. Age: 19 Posts: 1,070 Join Date: Jun 2007 | Maybe this is free-the-world style, but I think it's just a matter of perception. I don't find oral sex to be sex. I don't have many reservations with that, but when it comes to anal, it's a lot more intimate for me. I have a friend that thinks he isn't a virgin because he's given oral sex. So I guess you can call it whatever you want. It's a lot freer when you're gay. Woooh.
__________________ ![]() I'm gonna paksiw in the face. |
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| Member Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: out to 8 ppl Location: South Korea Age: 57 Posts: 99 Join Date: May 2007 | hey if you use a sex part, with another person, it's sex!! (mouth - mouth can be damn sexy too, but then the feeling involves the 'sex part' so ..... Paul |
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| Cecile's sidekick EC Advisor ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: All but extended family Location: Belgium, EU Age: 28 Posts: 3,366 Join Date: Feb 2009 | "Neener, neener, that doesn't count as real sex!". What is this? Kindergarten? I'd 8th Numfarh's definition, though I'm not sure how I would define anal-anal. I'm not even sure if there are people that do that for entertainment. (perhaps I'm having the wrong mental images here )And how would you define things like hands-genitals? If done right, I'd say they'd count as sex. Last edited by Filip; 1st Mar 2009 at 03:21 AM.. Reason: spelling |
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| GaGa's Knight in Flaming Armor Full Member Gender: 여왕 Orientation: Boys Boys Boys Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Jukjeon-dong, Yongin-si Age: 20 Posts: 1,823 Join Date: Aug 2007 | I understand the hang-up... But I've always subscribed to the thought that sex has penetration.
__________________ Co-Founder of the 'Sailor Moon Made Me Gay' club EC's official Diva Extraordinaire Future 'Mr. Kellan Lutz' "Since women have vaginas, they also have drama to fill the void." |
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| Well Known Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Failed Lesbian Out Status: Just go with the flow Location: King's Lynn Age: 18 Posts: 189 Join Date: Jan 2009 | I think anything like that counts, unless you are in an argument with your parents :P |
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| new avatar time! Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: all but parents.. for now. Location: Scotland Age: 18 Posts: 1,045 Join Date: Feb 2009 | eight'd. The mental image of anus-anus made me lol too.
__________________ ![]() ~~There is no way to peace; peace is the way.~~ --A. J. Muste |
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| EC Addict Regular Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Open-Minded Lesbian Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Montreal Age: 24 Posts: 325 Join Date: May 2007 | There`s a difference that most people don`t understand. Technically, sexual intercourse involves penetration; it refers mostly to baby making sex. But the term sex is a lot more open to interpretation. So it could be anything you consider to be. I agree with Numfarh, anything involving gentials and the mouth is pretty damn intimate and I would consider it sex. Now, a lot of people think you need to have intercourse in order to really lose your virginity. But this can`t be true for homosexuals because we just have different ways of havings sex. so yah our sex is real. and it`s the best kind of sex too :P
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