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| Guest Posts: n/a | I've been trying to read and write Hiragana characters (a basic form of Japanese) for almost 2 hours! I'm not halfway done and my head hurts..... ![]() It's tedious and fascinating at the same time. But i'll write a character over 15X and yet my mind just blanks when I try to think of what i just wrote lol |
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| Well Known Regular Member ![]() Gender: 男人 (Male) Orientation: 同性 (Gay) Out Status: If you can't tell, then you don't know me. :) Location: A^2, MI Posts: 121 Join Date: Feb 2009 | 日本語を勉強しますか? I have no idea whether or not that means what I think it means, but I would love to learn Japanese. I know hiragana and katakana, and I know the meanings of many kanji from my study of Chinese. The grammar is obviously quite different, and it's all really interesting. I like the hiragana む. I don't really know why, I just think that it looks cool. As for memorizing them, I guess I would recommend writing them several times like you are doing. When I was learning them, I found lyrics to several Japanese songs in romanization and I would then try to write, as accurately as I could, the lyrics in Hiragana. It was better than just writing the same Hiragana over and over again. Maybe you could try that. You can find a lot of song lyrics in romanization, as well as kanji and translations, on animelyrics.com. I hope that helps. ![]()
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| Guest Posts: n/a | Yeah, Japanese is one of the hardest languages to learn cause of all the components katakana kanji and so forth. |
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| Bengal Baby Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: A few people Location: New Jersey Age: 23 Posts: 290 Join Date: Feb 2009 | I took Japanese for 2 years and I still haven't master Katakana or Hiragana. Then again, I'm terrible with foreign languages though I find them extremely interesting. ^^; I remember making flashcards and posting them all over my room to try and remember the characters/vocab words. I like FinalFantasyFan's suggestions of lyrics though. Good luck! |
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| Coop d'état Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Berlin, Germany Age: 21 Posts: 1,607 Join Date: Nov 2007 | Quote:
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| Ytse Jamming. Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 27 Posts: 2,217 Join Date: Oct 2008 | I didn't find hiragana too difficult, but katakana annoyed the crap out of me (I took 3 semesters of Japanese electives). I'd agree with above posters that it helps to be able to connect them with something - for example こ (ko) looking like coins, or き(ki) looking like a key. Life gets even more fun when it's time to learn kanji!
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| Fio Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Most people Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 1,005 Join Date: Jan 2008 | You might not learn it all in one day, just take your time! I know all 46 pretty well now it just took about a month of looking at it every day, reading sentances in Hiragana/Katakana, practising with my computer, etc for it to sink in.
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| Well Known Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Family, Friends, and anyone that asks Location: Bendigo, VIC - Australia Age: 23 Posts: 122 Join Date: Aug 2008 | I studied Japanese for 5 years. I could remember characters, sentence patterns, and all of the founding sort of stuff, but I could never remember *words*. It sounds silly but it's just the way my brain works I guess. でも、日本語はとてもおもしろいとたのしです。 |
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| The gay gargoyle EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Colorado Age: 42 Posts: 12,371 Join Date: Dec 2007 | I took Japanese for a couple years. I wasn't crazy about the hirigana/katakana thing. (For those who don't know, hirigana are the "syllabic" characters used to spell out words in Japanese. So you could put the "do" and the "mo" syllable characters together to spell the word "domo". Katakana characters are similar, but are used for words that aren't of Japanese origin. So you could put the characters for "ma", "ka", "do", "no", "ru", "do", and "su" together to make the word "makadonorudosu" - McDonald's. ) Please don't get me started on "counters" though. Lex |
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| Well Known Regular Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Family, Friends, and anyone that asks Location: Bendigo, VIC - Australia Age: 23 Posts: 122 Join Date: Aug 2008 | ひとり、ふたり、さんにん、よにん。。。 ひとつ、ふたつ、みっつ、よっつ、いっつ、むいつ、ななつ、やっつ、ここなつ、と。。。 Yeah, they're pretty nasty. |
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| にひひっ♪ Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Almost everyone Location: Illinois Age: 20 Posts: 636 Join Date: Mar 2009 | Take them a chunk at a time, don't try to do it all at once. Do you have a Hiragana/Katankana chart? Those help a lot. |
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| Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: I'm out there and I'm loving every minute of it! Location: El Paso, TX Age: 20 Posts: 108 Join Date: Dec 2008 | Our school offers Japanese class. I took it for 2 years! The first year was hiragana and simple verbs and what not. The 2nd year was Katakana and complex annoying sentence rules and stuff like that. But I still remember most of the stuff that I learned. In fact I need it for a job that I'm getting at this Japanese Dinner. So luckily we learned how to order and take orders. What helped me learned the characters was flash cards though with the characters on one side and the way it is pernounced on the back, "EE". But just wait till Kanji! ha ha |
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| No Artificial Preservatives Regular Member ![]() Gender: Female Location: Northeast Posts: 389 Join Date: Sep 2008 | I like Hiragana, not so much Katakana. Katakana is a little more tricky for me 'cause there are several characters that look alike (e.g., ツシノン [tsu shi no n] and ワフラウ [wa fu ra u]) and it really messes things up. But other than a few mix-ups, I pretty much recognize all Hiragana/Katakana characters. I still have a hard time reading it (I read it like "watashi wa... u... ma... o... um...lol). As for Kanji, I only know a select few. Quote:
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| Guest Posts: n/a | Thanks finalfantasyfan! and everyone else! I like the lyrics idea a lot and im actually looking forward to the kanji because im also learning chinese and they seem similiar... the chinese isn't that bad unless someone tries to read my handwriting lol |
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| Helena Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Close family and quite a few friends Location: UK Age: 18 Posts: 2,195 Join Date: Oct 2007 | Just persist. It takes time, but when you start to feel confident and get on with it, Japanese can become a lovely friend Persist! ![]()
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| Ik ben vandaag zo vrolijk! Full Member ![]() Gender: Male, XY Orientation: Men, men, and more men! Out Status: Almost out to everyone Location: Malaysia Posts: 526 Join Date: Jan 2008 | Quote:
![]() I could write a complete sentence using all of these. You know what's more difficult? Chinese words. (Yes, Kanji is part of Japanese language, but it isn't that much!) Until now I couldn't write a complete sentence (wo ai ni doesn't count!) in Chinese. Worse, how the hell I could write a 100 word essay in Mandarin? ![]() And pronouncing Chinese words is one of the most PAINFUL task I ever had too. I'm a Malaysian chinese, but not studying in Chinese-medium schools. And I have a bad learning curve... now you can lol at me! ![]() | |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | My first semester of chinese we had to write a paragraph about ourselves knowing nothing but basic chinese! apparently i should have known what 'psychology' was in chinese since that was my major...... and yes i think 'wo ai ni' counts dammit! lol it makes me feel better knowing i can add those three words to my vocab. wo shi shudaizi, danshi wo shou zhongwen bu tai hao! ....sorry.... it means im a bookworm, but i dont speak chinese that well. i have a hard time hearing tones |
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| Well Known Regular Member ![]() Gender: 男人 (Male) Orientation: 同性 (Gay) Out Status: If you can't tell, then you don't know me. :) Location: A^2, MI Posts: 121 Join Date: Feb 2009 | Quote:
Yeah, tones are kind of hard for me to make when I try to speak quickly. I don't know why, but the third tone just sort of disappears when I talk. ![]() 要是你想,我可以跟你一起练习说中文。我就学中文学了两个学期了,可是我觉得我说的不错。祝你 好。再见。
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ok....i babel fished it....(and i realized i may need glasses). how to you type in characters or actual pinyin instead of whatever im doing lol? i need to learn more... and thanks for the offer, i think... ![]() ![]() | |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | lol, i think my third tone is over emphasized while my fourth tone is none existent! |
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