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Wander · 17th Mar 2009, 10:16 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29734328

Despite the fact that AIDS is obscenely out of control in Africa, that their birth and death rates are ridiculously high, that the world population doesn't need another baby boom, the Pope still pushes abstinence until marriage instead of protection.

He looks like the Emperor for a reason.

Mr Bojangles · 17th Mar 2009, 10:39 AM

Isn't it the job of the Pope to be out of touch with reality?

Jennn · 17th Mar 2009, 10:43 AM

Personally I've never really understood why the Pope has a say in current issues, considering he's still insisting on finding answers for them from a 3000 year old book.

Shevanel · 17th Mar 2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jennn

Personally I've never really understood why the Pope has a say in current issues, considering he's still insisting on finding answers for them from a 3000 year old book.

Same with Bono or any other celebrity who's too "self-righteous" for their own good? and Catholicism isn't all just about the bible. just saying

EDIT: Btw, i think all of life's problems can be solved by various episodes of South Park, for this one, watch the episode Red Hot Catholic Love in Season 6

Just Adam · 17th Mar 2009, 10:46 AM

sorry if i offend anyone but the pope is a total weirdo really as a guy im hella scared of hiv these people need proper education protection and sanitisation

honestly alot of the rural areas just dont have the same std understanding we do and your just telling them dont have sex is just not an answer its so out of touch its scary when will people learn and ignore him. reside him to the corner and humour him like a mad old relative in a rocking chair

crystaltriforce · 17th Mar 2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Bojangles

Isn't it the job of the Pope to be out of touch with reality?

well the last pope was a hell of a lot more in touch with reality than this old windbag

Jennn · 17th Mar 2009, 10:47 AM

I've lost the quotey button, but... 'Same with Bono or any other celebrity who's too "self-righteous" for their own good? and Catholicism isn't all just about the bible. just saying'

Oh yeah, definitely. Celebrities too, if not more so.
And Catholicism is very true to the Bible, especially what he's suggesting in that article.

Shevanel · 17th Mar 2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jennn

Oh yeah, definitely. Celebrities too, if not more so.
And Catholicism is very true to the Bible, especially what he's suggesting in that article.

But also its about not taking the bible literally. I went to a Catholic High School and I've studied all of this stuff. and I'm Catholic myself. there is a whole lot more to Catholicism than the Bible.

Mr Bojangles · 17th Mar 2009, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by crystaltriforce

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Originally Posted by Mr Bojangles

Isn't it the job of the Pope to be out of touch with reality?

well the last pope was a hell of a lot more in touch with reality than this old windbag

Yeah. My grandma met him before he was a minister. Apparently he had a brilliant sense of humour :P. JP was also a founding member of Sozlidernoczc (I think that's how it's spelt - my memory is bad.), The first political party in the 3rd Polish Republic

olides84 · 17th Mar 2009, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SurferDude420

Same with Bono or any other celebrity who's too "self-righteous" for their own good?

Sweet! You got your Bono jab in there

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Originally Posted by SurferDude420

But also its about not taking the bible literally. I went to a Catholic High School and I've studied all of this stuff. and I'm Catholic myself. there is a whole lot more to Catholicism than the Bible.

I grew up Catholic and while I am no longer a member of the church or believe in god, there are still a lot of good things about the Church. But this pope is really backwards thinking IMO. He seems to want to regress 50+ years and is fixated on some totally out-of-touch concepts.

Alex19 · 17th Mar 2009, 11:36 AM

the pope doesnt know what the hell hes doin. tell him to kiss his own damn ring for a change.

Shevanel · 17th Mar 2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by olides84

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Originally Posted by SurferDude420

Same with Bono or any other celebrity who's too "self-righteous" for their own good?

Sweet! You got your Bono jab in there

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Originally Posted by SurferDude420

But also its about not taking the bible literally. I went to a Catholic High School and I've studied all of this stuff. and I'm Catholic myself. there is a whole lot more to Catholicism than the Bible.

I grew up Catholic and while I am no longer a member of the church or believe in god, there are still a lot of good things about the Church. But this pope is really backwards thinking IMO. He seems to want to regress 50+ years and is fixated on some totally out-of-touch concepts.

LoL yes, i seized the opportunity haha.

and I actually do agree with you about this pope, I wayyyy prefer the last pope. He was pretty awesome. this pope, is definitely different. I may be "heretical" when i say this, but the pope is human too, this one, infallible? perhaps not. I don't know, religion is everyones choice, i have my own beliefs and they certainly differ from most Catholics but they're still very much Catholic. and on the subject of abstinence, its seriously not that hard. and not following abstinence is totally fine too. what they do in Africa is freakin crazy though. isn't it like the rape capital of the world?

Jennn · 17th Mar 2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by olides84

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Originally Posted by SurferDude420

Same with Bono or any other celebrity who's too "self-righteous" for their own good?

Sweet! You got your Bono jab in there

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurferDude420

But also its about not taking the bible literally. I went to a Catholic High School and I've studied all of this stuff. and I'm Catholic myself. there is a whole lot more to Catholicism than the Bible.

I grew up Catholic and while I am no longer a member of the church or believe in god, there are still a lot of good things about the Church. But this pope is really backwards thinking IMO. He seems to want to regress 50+ years and is fixated on some totally out-of-touch concepts.

This is the point I'm trying to make. I also grew up as a Catholic, but the Pope's thinking on this matter is just out of date. Some of the Bible does still apply to the world today, but not about this. Personally, I don't think there's is much to Catholicism than the book it's based on, but I don't want to start an argument, so I'm not going to further that point.

Shevanel · 17th Mar 2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jennn

This is the point I'm trying to make. I also grew up as a Catholic, but the Pope's thinking on this matter is just out of date. Some of the Bible does still apply to the world today, but not about this. Personally, I don't think there's is much to Catholicism than the book it's based on, but I don't want to start an argument, so I'm not going to further that point.

Sorry if that's what it came across as, i definitely don't want to start an argument, I totally understand what your saying though. Don't worry

17th Mar 2009, 11:57 AM

He's just doing his job. It really is a case of "he doesn't know any better." This is what he's been taught, this is what he knows. Yeah it's ridiculous that he's ignoring AIDS rates, but abstinence has been drilled into his head and he's just regurgitating it back.

Greggers · 17th Mar 2009, 12:02 PM

The pope is worth no more and no less than the homeless guy down the street who has no money and no food. Its true, because if one *tiny* thing had been altered that pope could be on the streets while the homeless man is up in that tower preaching down from above to all.

So really, we should not be listening to the Pope as much as we do. Hes going to spew crap, and im sure hes going to spew out some good things too, but hes just a guy in a robe, nothing more nothing less. Taking the word of any one human as law is going to end up with you being right back under another Hitler or Stalin.

Fiorino · 17th Mar 2009, 12:32 PM

My theory is that he's racist and could care less if Black people were
dying, or maybe he even gets off on it.

Why does he have political power again?

Shevanel · 17th Mar 2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiorino

My theory is that he's racist and could care less if Black people were
dying, or maybe he even gets off on it.

Why does he have political power again?

Because the Vatican is a sovereign state?

pirateninja · 17th Mar 2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SurferDude420

EDIT: Btw, i think all of life's problems can be solved by various episodes of South Park, for this one, watch the episode Red Hot Catholic Love in Season 6

YESYESYES!

You have no idea just how happy you made me by saying that

Shevanel · 17th Mar 2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pirateninja

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Originally Posted by SurferDude420

EDIT: Btw, i think all of life's problems can be solved by various episodes of South Park, for this one, watch the episode Red Hot Catholic Love in Season 6

YESYESYES!

You have no idea just how happy you made me by saying that

well it IS your fault Holly

17th Mar 2009, 10:16 AM	#1
Wander Banned Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Parents, aunts, grandma, counselor, online friends Location: Central Alabama Age: 18 Posts: 2,360 Join Date: Jan 2008	Once again, the Pope ignores reality http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29734328 Despite the fact that AIDS is obscenely out of control in Africa, that their birth and death rates are ridiculously high, that the world population doesn't need another baby boom, the Pope still pushes abstinence until marriage instead of protection. He looks like the Emperor for a reason.

17th Mar 2009, 10:39 AM	#2
Mr Bojangles EC's resident Pikey :3 Full Member Gender: Hombre Orientation: Men = WIN. Out Status: Out, I guess. Location: Dubai Posts: 279 Join Date: Feb 2009	Re: Once again, the Pope ignores reality Isn't it the job of the Pope to be out of touch with reality? __________________ ATTACK OF THE GIANT 60ft LESBIAN OCTOPUS. <3 ignoranceisstrengthwarispeacefreedomisslavery

17th Mar 2009, 10:43 AM	#3
Jennn . Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Gay Out Status: The closet wouldn't take me back if I wanted it to Location: Wolver'ampton. Dreadful place. Age: 21 Posts: 248 Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: Once again, the Pope ignores reality Personally I've never really understood why the Pope has a say in current issues, considering he's still insisting on finding answers for them from a 3000 year old book.

17th Mar 2009, 10:46 AM	#5
Just Adam Just passing through Full Member Gender: Something Orientation: Dunno Out Status: If they ask i will tell them Location: Wherever Age: 23 Posts: 6,002 Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: Once again, the Pope ignores reality sorry if i offend anyone but the pope is a total weirdo really as a guy im hella scared of hiv these people need proper education protection and sanitisation honestly alot of the rural areas just dont have the same std understanding we do and your just telling them dont have sex is just not an answer its so out of touch its scary when will people learn and ignore him. reside him to the corner and humour him like a mad old relative in a rocking chair __________________ There Used To Be A Point Of Things.

17th Mar 2009, 10:47 AM	#7
Jennn . Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Gay Out Status: The closet wouldn't take me back if I wanted it to Location: Wolver'ampton. Dreadful place. Age: 21 Posts: 248 Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: Once again, the Pope ignores reality I've lost the quotey button, but... 'Same with Bono or any other celebrity who's too "self-righteous" for their own good? and Catholicism isn't all just about the bible. just saying' Oh yeah, definitely. Celebrities too, if not more so. And Catholicism is very true to the Bible, especially what he's suggesting in that article.

17th Mar 2009, 11:36 AM	#11
Alex19 who else but me? Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: homo Out Status: I think everyone knows by now Location: New York Age: 21 Posts: 1,301 Join Date: Feb 2009	Re: Once again, the Pope ignores reality the pope doesnt know what the hell hes doin. tell him to kiss his own damn ring for a change. __________________ "It's always darkest before dawn."

17th Mar 2009, 11:57 AM	#15
Midnight Angel Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Once again, the Pope ignores reality He's just doing his job. It really is a case of "he doesn't know any better." This is what he's been taught, this is what he knows. Yeah it's ridiculous that he's ignoring AIDS rates, but abstinence has been drilled into his head and he's just regurgitating it back.

17th Mar 2009, 12:02 PM	#16
Greggers Sunshine & Optimism ...also Angels. Full Member Gender: Theatre Queen Orientation: Disco Sticks Out Status: Everyone and a few more Location: BC, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 3,528 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: Once again, the Pope ignores reality The pope is worth no more and no less than the homeless guy down the street who has no money and no food. Its true, because if one tiny thing had been altered that pope could be on the streets while the homeless man is up in that tower preaching down from above to all. So really, we should not be listening to the Pope as much as we do. Hes going to spew crap, and im sure hes going to spew out some good things too, but hes just a guy in a robe, nothing more nothing less. Taking the word of any one human as law is going to end up with you being right back under another Hitler or Stalin. __________________ "It's a male duck."

17th Mar 2009, 12:32 PM	#17
Fiorino Fio Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Most people Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Posts: 1,005 Join Date: Jan 2008	Re: Once again, the Pope ignores reality My theory is that he's racist and could care less if Black people were dying, or maybe he even gets off on it. Why does he have political power again? __________________ Why is it that as a culture, we're more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?

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