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Apparently Trans Men Embarrass Trans Women...?

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  1. GayPugs

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    (Not sure where this thread should go, sorry if I put it in the wrong place.)

    I was talking with this jerky trans woman online and she said trans men embarrass her and a bunch of other stuff about me being a "transmisoginost" I dunno what that means but...do any other trans women get embarrassed by trans men?

    Just another reason why I wish I was cis...
     
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    "transmisognist" - those who think you're women-hating for being AFAB transguy or non-binary. I wouldn't listen to it, it's just words that have nothing to do with you being trans but trying to make it seem so to try and stop you transitioning. I've only heard of this from cis people before though, so from a trans person seems odd.


    ... If she's embarrassed by you, what is she doing talking to you [?].
     
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    I'm not sure what this says about me, but most of the stuff I heard towards trans men is that they're garbage, shit, and abusive pieces of shit--and they're all lumped together so if you happen to be a trans man, they mean you too even if you aren't being an asshole or hurting anyone.

    I think that's one of the reasons why I wish I was cis sometimes (and I've honestly considered either going stealth, leaving the community, or flat out ending my transition because of it), since I've gotten hazed by the community before simply because I'm a trans guy--especially when I try to stand up for myself when other project onto me.
     
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    That's really unfortunate. But don't mind such hate. This is a misplaced prejudice where one takes the actions of a few and projects them to all of us. It means nothing.

    You will become the man you strive to be. Surround yourself with people who will build you up and appreciate you as a trans-man, rather than chop you down for a ludicrous reason.
     
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    I've seen a lot of trans women say rude things like that. Just shrug it off. There are gonna be sexists/transphobes but they're just silly. Most trans women aren't going to be embarrassed by you, and if some are, they're usually just being bullies. I used to get really bothered by this, to the point of depression as a lot of insults used towards trans men would trigger my dysphoria, but you just got to shrug it off. There's nothing wrong with being who you are, if anyone says there is, no matter if they try to disguise it as a social justice-related thing, they're wrong.
     
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    Sounds like the typical SJW type garbage you see on Tumblr. There's a lot of extremist views there. Also, I'm not trans, but as a cis lesbian, I get harassed by SJW trans women a lot too, so I wanted to chime in.

    A lot of trans women on tumblr have been bullying and harassing both trans men and cis lesbians, I see it all the time. It's not ok. Trans men may be men, but they still face transphobic oppression. Cis lesbians may be cis, but they still face homophobic oppression. We're not enemies and we don't deserve misdirected hate.

    I'm also not saying all trans women are like this or that trans women don't suffer too, It's just the bad apples in the SJW community make them all look terrible.
     
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    Anyone can be an asshole. Simple.
     
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    They can, anyone can embarrass anyone. But, transmen in general in no way embarass me, I don't see why they would.
     
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    I'm honestly just so confused by this kind of hate that I'm kinda of just??? Staring at my screen with squinted eyes???

    Maybe the thought process is that you're like, betraying womanhood to become a man? And since women are already oppressed you should stay??? But that is such a reach. Like grasping at straws kind of reach. I completely ignores the biological reasons for being trans and how the brain is wired. Heck, I don't know anybody who wakes up and goes "Today, I wanna be trans, and experience all the stress and hatred that comes with it!!!1!!"

    So yeah. Ignore her. Maybe avoid that website if it seems like a popular opinion on there.
     
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    For some reason I face a ton of sexism...from men...it always just confuses me because they're like, "Pffft you're a girl you can't like football!" and I'm like, *looks behind self* "Hmm? I don't see any girls here." xD
     
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    Just sounds like an experience with a reactionary idiot who generalizes everything for dramatic effect. Fools like those are a dime a dozen.
     
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    Not everyone has received the gift of knowledge, as unfortunate as that may be. Likely spent far too long on the wrong side of tumblr or so... :confused:

    These strange double standards and prevalent sexism are what I feel to be remnants of past archaic culture that have to place in modern eras. When they aren't indoctrinated into some poor child's impressionable mind I suppose some can synthesize their own corruption.
     
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    Unfortunately the LGBT community isn't always as accepting as we would hope.
     
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    I've heard the "transmen/afab enbies are sex/gender traitors" bit before too. Such bullshit. And very toxic.
     
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    I don't know a lot of trans men, but every one I have met or talked to has been pretty cool. If I had to go on just personal experience, I'd say trans men are awesome. I actually think this in general anyway, but there it is. No one needs my approval but it's there anyway!
     
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    Just recently I heard someone (a cis "feminist") claim that trans men are just women who are trying to get their piece of "male privilege".