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do you think most women are actually bi?

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  1. jenne

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    i just read somewhere that most women are bi or gay and it's unlikely to be completely straight... what do you think about that? :icon_roll
     
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    I have heard that as well. Or at least, that most women - if pushed, will admit some level of attraction to other women. (Also I have heard of some research done about straight women experiencing arousal from not only attractive men, but also women.) That being said I definitely don't think all women are bisexual, and those within the grey area might not have a strong enough attraction to actually consider themselves anything other than straight.

    Either way I think it's cool beans.
     
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    I've read that too, but I'm unsure myself with the true answer. I do believe women tend to be more open-minded and empathetic ( not saying guys aren't but ya get me ) so that could lead to romantic attraction but sexually, I don't know. I won't erase the possibility that some women can be completely straight, and so can some be completely gay.
     
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    I believe that we all have attraction to the same and opposite sex to some extent. I'm a lesbian, but I can recognize when a man is nice looking, just as there are many straight women that can recognize other women are beautiful. However, I would only define bisexual as openly willing to have sex with both sexes, which I'd say...no, I don't believe most women would be willing to have sex with other women.

    ---------- Post added 1st Dec 2016 at 08:16 PM ----------

    Just my opinion, of course.
     
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    No, and actually I kind of hate that theory. Like, if that's the case then why are bisexual women treated like crap by everyone?

    There's a difference between sexual/romantic attraction and aesthetic attraction. I think a lot of these articles confuse aesthetic attraction (e.g. a woman playfully saying "oh, she's hot") with actual attraction.
     
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    Not completely. And I'll state the reasons why I think this.

    1. Most studies that state this also state the fact that vaginas get wet toward any sexual visuals of any gender. First of all, vaginal lubrication is a physical mechanic, not a sexual orientation. Second, almost ALL women get vaginally wet while they're being raped. Does that mean that all women love being raped and are sexually attracted to their rapists? No. We are designed to be aroused by everything sexual, even if we don't mentally like it to PROTECT us from rape damage.

    2. Women are more likely to like porn of any gender combination than men. But if you look into the reasons why, It's usually for environmental reasons (is the sex realistic enough? Romantic enough? etc) NOT that they find the actors attractive. Because of this, saying that "a straight women who watches lesbian porn = bi" is the same as saying "A person who likes horror movies = psychopath with homicidal ideation". There is no real correlation because the watcher isn't actually fantasizing about the people/acts pertaining to them.

    3. People confusing aesthetic attraction with real attraction, like Gunsmoke said. A lot of straight women think other women are pretty to look at. Is this bisexuality? Not really. I also find my SISTER gorgeous to look at. Does this make me incestuous? And if not, why are straight women misjudged more?

    4. Social conditioning. It's more "acceptable" for women to experiment together because of male fantasies (Note: I mean It's more acceptable for Bicurious STRAIGHT women to sleep together, not that it's acceptable to be a real lesbian or bi). Men experimenting with men is condemned, so they are less likely to do it. In reality, almost an equal amount of men experiment with other men, but It's keep secretive or on the down low. A man who sucks one dick is considered gay for life, not even bisexual, so they can't really admit to it. And a lot of women experimenting with other women is situational sexuality to "please the male gaze", not even real bisexuality. To compare this, look back at ancient greece and rome. It was mostly MEN experimenting with other men, not the women today. But of course, homosexuality was seen as something different, as "topping" a man was seen as okay and not gay like it is now (though bottoming was still condemned). That proves there may be some social bias there.

    5. Another reason why women can appear to be more sexually fluid is due to misogyny and refusal to accept women's sexuality. One example: if I as a lesbian, chose to date, sleep with, or marry a man, I would automatically be labeled as bisexual/fluid, even if I never liked him and was just closeted. In comparison, gay men who date, sleep with, and marry women will ALWAYS be seen as closeted the whole time and that he just wouldn't come out. Sorry, but WTF? It's the same exact act, but It's given a sexist double standard. I know you weren't referring to gay women here, but we sometimes are told we are bi for these reasons as well.
     
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    This. This is so good. I agree with this so much.
     
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    "All ________ are ________" statements are destructive, and deny that diversity exists in our society. If we dare subscribe to such, the next thing we'll see is statements like All humans are born straight, all gay people choose to be gay, and other disparaging claims that are patently false. No thanks.
     
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    I think most people are actually bi, once you take away the prejudice related with genders/sexualities/etc.
    That's just a personal opinion, though, which probably stems from my being bi, and the fact that I personally can't imagine only liking one gender. Others are different.

    Realistically, I think the assumption that all women are bi comes from the fact that its more socially acceptable for a woman to be bi than for a man to be bi. As a result, more women come out as bi, because more women are comfortable to.
    Its also seen as more acceptable to be closer with members of the same sex without people assuming you're gay.
     
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    The first sentence is logic I see from a lot of bi people. It might make some sense for straight people, as LGBT faces prejudice, so we don't know how many people are closeted bi. On the other hand, this logic makes absolutely no sense when it comes to gay people (and especially lesbians) not being bi.

    Being attracted to men is not condemned, and is in fact pressured/coerced against women. Thus, you have a majority of lesbians who HAVE to fake being bi in order to fit in, have to convince/force themselves to be bi/straight since It's forced on them, and go through a much larger identity crisis in general. There is almost no good reason for a lesbian to be closeted bi. Lesbians are at the very bottom of the totem poll and have their sexualities erased and invalidated more than anyone else.

    Though I'm not playing the who has it worse game. I know that in many ways, bi women face even more prejudice. It's just that, in my experience, I got more support when I identified as bi compared to identifying as a lesbian now- to the point that I forced myself to continue to fake being bi simply because of the fear of losing some of social privileges I was getting. There was no good reason for me to be a "real bisexual in denial".
     
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    I know plenty of women who are completely straight, or claim to be. As for myself, I'm an odd duck. For most of my life I've never had any physical desire for men, only women. I identify as bisexual now however because I am in a fulfilling relationship with a man I desire physically. The thing is though I continue to not be attracted physically to other men in general. It's like I'm a lesbian with an exception, and the problem with that is there are people out there that try to dismiss how you feel by saying "Oh you're not really a lesbian, you just haven't met the right guy yet." I've known my BF for years before we actually started dating, and had zero physical attraction to him then. If it was a matter of "meeting the right guy" I would've felt something then, not now, wouldn't I? I still have a strong physical attraction to women in general, despite how I also feel about my BF. It makes no sense. He is aware of this, doesn't understand how it happened either, but is accepting of it. I don't foresee our relationship ending anytime soon, but if it does I can't see myself starting over with another guy.
     
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    Most people are straight.
     
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    Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis.
     
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    I do think so. I think many men are too but don't want to admit it.
     
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    I do think there are more than we think there are, but most women? We can't really know for sure. Of course, we need to take into account that both a Kinsey 1 and a Kinsey 5 are bisexuals. That doesn't mean that they're willing to actually have a relationship with both genders.

    If I had to take a guess, I'd say 40 to 60% of people have some kind of attraction to both genders. It doesn't mean that everyone of those people would act on it, though. Also, I'm just speaking from what I observed, and I'm sure my friends and acquaintances are not the most accurate sample.