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| View Poll Results: Can a straight boy have a gaydar? | |||
| It is illegal and immoral for straight people to have a gaydar | | 4 | 4.76% |
| It's OK, let's be tolerant of straight people, it's not their fault | | 70 | 83.33% |
| He is probably gay and his girlfriend is in for a surprise | | 6 | 7.14% |
| What's a gaydar? | | 4 | 4.76% |
| Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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| Just a guy Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Anyone who is interested Location: Milton Keynes, England Age: 56 Posts: 474 Join Date: Oct 2008 | My nephew claims that he knew about me. He is straight, even though he is a hairdresser. He says that he sees enough gay people in his job to know the difference so I was wondering whether it was acceptable for straight boys to have a working gaydar? What do you think?
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: All but family Location: London Age: 29 Posts: 712 Join Date: Aug 2008 | maybe you should ask him what he is basing this on? what made him 'know' about you? |
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| R-Y-R-Y Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Completely Out Location: Staten Island, NYC Age: 20 Posts: 4,348 Join Date: Jan 2008 | Honestly, some people just claimed to have known sometimes when they find even though they had no idea. OR he could have the completely random gift of gaydar. In my experience anyone can be born with the talent of gaydar, their sexuality does not matter.
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| An Abnormal Default EC Moderator ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Straight Out Status: As out as the next straight kid Location: Surrey, UK Age: 19 Posts: 4,102 Join Date: Sep 2008 | I think everyone has a Gayder, just some are finer tuned than others. Mine for example is pretty bad, but I still have one XD
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| Rawr! Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Half out the closet so far..:) Location: Glasgow Age: 23 Posts: 73 Join Date: Apr 2009 | Yeah I agree, I think everyone has a gaydar. My brother is straight yet he has a pretty good gaydar, probably better than mine! |
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| EC's Red Queen EC Admin ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Merseyside, UK Age: 21 Posts: 8,047 Join Date: Nov 2007 | I don't believe gaydars even exist, imo. It's nothing more than stereotypical observation that people have, and I am pretty sure those who claim to have a gaydar will walk past hundreds of gay people and won't spot them simply because they won't be expressing their sexuality in a way that is often associated with that orientation (such as flamboyancy in guys or women with really short hair). It's also a flawed logic as those who claim to spot a gay person just take up the assumption that they are right and don't usually get to find out whether they are. I would say he is able to spot stereotypical gay people because they have the characteristics that are associated with that sexuality. I wouldn't necessarily call it a gaydar though, it's just observing stereotypes. Perhaps finding out what gave you away would be better than interrogating him about his 'gaydar'. |
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| Guest Posts: n/a | I think straight people totally can have it. It might not be as fine tuned but it is possible. Or maybe if they are straight they have a little bit of gay in them, like on the Kinsey Scale. I know one of my really good friends who happens to be a girl has awesome gaydar, and it always suprises me how right she is. |
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few friends + parents Location: Canada Age: 26 Posts: 1,407 Join Date: Jan 2007 | "Gaydar" can consist of many things. It can as Martin suggests, just be picking up on Stereotypical "gay" actions and behaviors. However, sometimes there's more subtle hints that people can pick up. Whether or not your nephew is picking up stereotypical hints or more subtle ones I don't know. However if he spends a lot of time around gay people I wouldn't completely rule out being able to pick up more subtle cues. This is all of course assuming Gaydar is a crap shoot to begin with. |
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| who else but me? Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: homo Out Status: I think everyone knows by now Location: New York Age: 21 Posts: 1,301 Join Date: Feb 2009 | o yea- without a doubt. straight men can sence when another man is gay. ive read countless stories when this happens. you dont have to b gay to have a gaydar, but mine doesnt seem to work for some reason... or at least, not all the time
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| PFLAG Mom Community Liaison ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Straight Out Status: Out to everyone/Yes, parents come out too! Location: Middle of Oregon Age: 50 Posts: 7,572 Join Date: Mar 2007 | Quote:
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| EC's Red Queen EC Admin ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Merseyside, UK Age: 21 Posts: 8,047 Join Date: Nov 2007 | Quote:
I think to say body language can give a good indicator of it is fairy accurate, but even then I wouldn't say that's the gift of a gaydar. We all observe body language on a daily basis and will experience those who go against a social norm, but to say that a certain behaviour is the result of a members orientation would, imo, just reinforce the view that gay people act a certain way in society. We know they're not all flamboyant and pink so we aren't going to always get vibes from their body language either. That to me shows how the concept of a gaydar fails. How we use a gaydar is based entirely on our experiences in life, and too include body language moves away from the ability to spot a gay person and just shows you are good at reading body language. Psychiatrists aim to do things like that all the time, but I wouldn't say they have a gaydar either. It's just something people can consciously do, and even then it's open to interpretation and could so easily be wrong. With a gaydar you could easily say somebody is gay because of x reason and then have no way of ever knowing. You can't really go anywhere with that and it does nothing to either prove or disprove a persons ability at detecting other gay people. | |
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| Furry Overlord Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Pansexual Out Status: Majority Location: Illinois Age: 20 Posts: 1,325 Join Date: Jul 2008 | Lmao Let me put it this way. My best friend has an amazing gaydar. He told me I was bi before I came out to him. And guess what? He's asexual. The ability to pick up on a person's sexual orientation by the way they talk or act isn't related to the person's own orientation. It's based on their ability to pick up on subtle differences in a person's mannerisms and such. Some people can pick up on these very well and can guess correctly on a person's orientation. I think the reason he can do it so well is he isn't clouded by an emotional stake in their orientation: gay, straight, trans, he doesn't care. I've started looking at it more objectively too and my gaydar isn't as horribly broken as it used to be. Bottom line, if straight guys can look at orientation objectively then yes, they can have excellent gaydar. =3
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| Wreck Cognition Full Member ![]() Gender: Heterogametic Orientation: Rawr. Out Status: 99% out. Location: Middlesbrough Age: 23 Posts: 1,744 Join Date: Aug 2007 | I think gaydar works because it's an ability to spot finer aspects of being gay that straight people rarely notice. As a hairdresser, I get the feeling your nephew is the type of person who hangs out with both crowds and can spot the difference. There's a few subtle signs.
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| EC Addict Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Family, friends, and staff! Location: California Age: 21 Posts: 1,139 Join Date: Oct 2008 | My gaydar is awesome! I saw these two guys one time, and they were sleeping together, and I'm pretty sure I was the only one who could tell they were gay. Of course, I was the only one in the bushes outside their window, but still... Seriously though, even if I could (or do) spot gay people, it's still not the same letting them confirm it. I feel like spotting out gay people robs them of the chance to define themselves. I don't want people thinking they know me, I'd rather tell them myself.
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| The gay gargoyle EC Advisor Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Colorado Age: 42 Posts: 12,371 Join Date: Dec 2007 | Someone straight asked me once, "What IS this gaydar thing?" Me: Is Ricky Martin gay? Him: Obviously. Me: How do you know? Him: Because! Look at him! Me: That's gaydar. Him: ....OOOOOhhhh... Lex |
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| Sunshine & Optimism ...also Angels. Full Member ![]() Gender: Theatre Queen Orientation: Disco Sticks Out Status: Everyone and a few more Location: BC, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 3,528 Join Date: Dec 2008 | Straight people definitely have gaydar. I seem to show up on straight people gaydar only though. Ive had quite alot of RANDOM strangers out me recently. Its always awkward though and it does not get any less awkward as it keeps happening :P I think straight people should be built with very minimal gaydar and gay people would be built with very strong gaydar. Then we can seek eachother out properly. ![]()
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| who else but me? Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: homo Out Status: I think everyone knows by now Location: New York Age: 21 Posts: 1,301 Join Date: Feb 2009 | i agree. i need a new one- i think mine is malfunctioning...
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| Well Known Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: hoping to kick down the closet doors for good Age: 30 Posts: 190 Join Date: Nov 2008 | Much agreed!!
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| Older and bolder! Full Member ![]() Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Massachusetts Age: 50 Posts: 1,775 Join Date: Aug 2008 | Quote:
I agree it's more obvious with the stereotypical gay person. I mean,I'm a lesbian and my gay dar sucks. ![]()
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| professional lurker Full Member ![]() Gender: Male Orientation: bisexual prefering males Out Status: don't ask don't tell (ask and I'll tell) Location: oakville(college) and oshawa(hometown) ont, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 1,101 Join Date: Apr 2009 | let's blame the emo trend! all the sceners made it tougher to properly place people on sight alone! ![]()
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