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Old 11th Apr 2009, 01:36 PM   #1
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Default Why LGBT?

The obsessive compulsive in me wants to know why the letters are ordered as they are (sometimes I also see GLBT). To me it looks like the poor B and T people were tacked on as an afterthought. Why not make it alphabetical: BGLT. Or reverse alphabetical order: TLGB. That way you can't be seen as trying to add significance to the order of the letters.
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Old 11th Apr 2009, 01:45 PM   #2
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I think its because it rolls off the tongue better as LGBT :P

In all honesty, i dont think it matters too much. It changes so much! Its currently offically

LGBTQ

if im correct. They added "Queer" to the end for anyone who does not feel they fit in one of the other four categories o_o
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I guess it goes the same way it works when you say Man and Wife or Men and Women. as opposed to Women and Men. I just think its the way our language is, or just past precedents it just feels easier to say.
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Old 11th Apr 2009, 04:06 PM   #4
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To me it looks like the poor B and T people were tacked on as an afterthought.
Some LGBT media does make it seem that this is the case, unfortunately.
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Old 11th Apr 2009, 04:14 PM   #5
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...LGBTQ

if im correct. They added "Queer" to the end for anyone who does not feel they fit in one of the other four categories o_o
Hmm, I was under the impression that the Q stood for Questioning. My bad.
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Old 11th Apr 2009, 04:21 PM   #6
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Wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT

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I guess it goes the same way it works when you say Man and Wife or Men and Women. as opposed to Women and Men. I just think its the way our language is, or just past precedents it just feels easier to say.
To address that all I'll do is quote the wikipedia article:
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Many variants exist including variations which merely change the order of the letters; however, LGBT or GLBT are the most common terms and the ones most frequently seen in current usage.[13] Although identical in meaning, “LGBT” may have a more feminist connotation than “GLBT” as it places the “L” (for “lesbian”) first.
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It changes so much! Its currently offically LGBTQ if im correct. They added "Queer" to the end for anyone who does not feel they fit in one of the other four categories o_o
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LGBT or GLBT may also include additional “Q”s for “queer” and/or “questioning” (sometimes abbreviated with a question mark) (e.g., “LGBTQ”, “LGBTQQ”, or “GLBTQ?”). Other variants may add a “U” for “unsure”; an “I” for intersex; another “T” for “transsexual” or “transvestite; another “T”, “TS”, or “2” for “Two‐Spirit” persons; an “A” or “SA” for straight allies; or an “A” for “asexual”. Some may also add a P for pansexual or polyamorous, and an O for omnisexual or other.
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Old 11th Apr 2009, 04:24 PM   #7
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Because obviously lesbians are supreme and thus get placed first in the anagram.
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Old 11th Apr 2009, 06:13 PM   #8
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LGBT is for fools. A friend of mine uses GBLTQQ. His justification is as follows:

Gee!...BLT sandwich...Queer/Questioning.

I think it works.
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Old 11th Apr 2009, 07:26 PM   #9
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My slight OCD would prefer it to be BGLT as well.
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Old 12th Apr 2009, 07:13 AM   #10
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It doesn't really matter.
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Old 12th Apr 2009, 08:31 AM   #11
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Perhaps everybody should just use the term with their own classification in the first position. That way there's less possibility of prejudice.
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All that matters is that the T goes at the end so we can have "LGBTastic"
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All that matters is that the T goes at the end so we can have "LGBTastic"
There's a severe deficiency of vowels. Perhaps we should stick A for ally in there, so it's pronounceable, then rearrange some of the letters,
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it's glabtastic!

I guess it would've been pronounced l-g-b-tastic
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GBLT... Gay BLT... Best. Sandwich. Ever.
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does it matter? so long as everyones there...
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"TLGB" sounds like some Steak House <.<
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Because obviously lesbians are supreme and thus get placed first in the anagram.
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I was listening to a speaker who is part of the LGBT department at the local university and she touched on that. She said in the 80s it started to switch from GLBT to LGBT to promote more gender equality.

Basically, to rid the 80s of the obvious sexism.
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I was listening to a speaker who is part of the LGBT department at the local university and she touched on that. She said in the 80s it started to switch from GLBT to LGBT to promote more gender equality.

Basically, to rid the 80s of the obvious sexism.
Isn't that sexism in just another form of sexism? like. I feel like its the same way with racism, that they try to erase racism but only add to it with like, a different kind. you know what i mean? I personally don't care how it is said. I just noticed that.
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