"There shouldn't have to be gay spaces"

As long as there is still widespread discrimination, yes, there should. Everyone deserves a place where they can feel safe and at home among their own.

 

It's necessary for minorities because we don't see eachother every day just walking down the sidewalk. Can't just go into a "normal" bar and start flirting with somebody with the same sex can you? It would unfortunately "provoke" violence in many places.

What do we not need on the other hand? "power trip spaces" like the KKK and Westboro. If you're already the majority what more do you need? Instead of putting down others to make yourself feel better, there's always, you know, effort. Do something good in the world instead, It's a much more productive way to get the feeling. Get into a craft, painting or music, push it as close to perfection as you can and say "I did this."

If we were 65% or so of the population yeah, I'd get not needing "spaces". You could just go to any public area then.

 

Yes. Absolutely. I do think we need these spaces. It's a place where we can be ourselves, with others like us. There is a sense of comfort in that, especially if you live in a conservative area and face discrimination outside of these spaces.
Even if they aren't "needed", they are still somewhat beneficial, and they aren't hurting anyone.

If someone wanted to make a "straight space", whatever man, I really don't see how it's any different from anywhere else though.

 

In an ideal world, we might not need gay spaces, but on the other hand... entitlement, basically. Some people don't like to see minority groups be themselves and succeed. Why do they care, anyway? At least 95% of establishments cater to them.

 

That argument still doesn't negate the fact that it can be hard to find other LGBT people. Just because a city is tolerant, doesn't mean you'll meet more people.
I think the problem with this statement is, that "queer-spaces" aren't just for having a so called "save space" where one can talk openly but also offer the opportunity to get advice in areas straight or non trans people don't have any experience with. It also makes it easier to actually meet potential dates which in my opinion is pretty important since the dating pool is already significantly smaller and dating apps aren't a good place to find anything. This can also improve a persons psyche because it sucks knowing you're different and seeing everyone dating and falling in love while you have to wait for someone who's potentially interested and pray it works out.
For trans people it can be an awesome way to get some supplies and have questions answered by someone who went through the process, as well as being encouraged on their way and maybe meeting people in a similar situation, showing them that they are not alone and that it's ok.

So yes, even in a very accepting city, we need LGBT-spaces.

 

Sometimes It's not even about discrimination, but about wanting to meet other LGBT people. Imagine if someone said there should be no spaces dedicated to gamers, expecting mothers, or people into cooking because they don't face discrimination. Technically, people want those groups to talk about those topics and meet like-minded people.

 

There shouldn't be any safe spaces from people who disagree with you.
If you mean places to meet other gays then those already exist and there's nothing wrong with them.

 

What he said. But who really cares if straight people whine about things that don't affect them? It's not going to make it go away

 

I think you both missed the point, it isn't about being safe from people who disagree with you, it is about a place(s) or event(s) tailored to or that caters to LGBTQ people. You can still end up with protestors anywhere so it is less about safety and more about a group of people congregating at one location.

I'm down for gay spaces or places. Plenty of other people get their own "spaces" or clubs or secret societies...

 

You could put it into the context of something they could personally understand. Everyone wants to feel a sense of belonging. I agree with Creativemind. Those examples of gaming etc are good because straight people can understand what it's like to want to be in a group with people who have similar interests.

 

I agree. I think there still be gay spaces just in so you can surround yourself with people who have similar life experiences.

 

I think it will always be necessary to have times to discuss the LGBT community and have celebrations like Pride.

 

I think there should, i dont wont to talk about LGBT issues with straight people, i dont want to discuss how i feel about being gay or problems im having with it. straight people will NEVER understand it, and i dont want their advise. so im glad there are spaces here, as i have no-one to ask or talk to about it with irl

 

I completely agree. But as long as LGBTQ people are bullied, targeted, and otherwise victimized on a regular basis, I feel they're necessary.

Lex