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Old 18th Jun 2009, 01:14 PM   #1
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Default subtle racist attitude against gay Asian Australians within the continent?

In the middle of a conversation I was having with a few high-schol alumni friends who came back from Australia, the subject of gay Asians randomly came up. While we were mostly talking about the racism against them in the U. S., there was a quick mention about veiled racism in the Australian gay communities specifically towards the asian males. I was a bit surprised, because I originally thought that such a thing was only notably in the U. S. (I thought wrong, huh?).

Those who are located in Australia or have been there, would you say that it's true? If so, what can you describe about it? Eversince my friends brought it up, I've been interested in it.

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Old 18th Jun 2009, 01:19 PM   #2
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Default Re: subtle racist attitude against gay Asian Australians within the continent?

I'm not from Australia, but from what I've seen in magazines/TV/media, there's some racist attitudes towards Asians and Pacific islanders.

I have a magazine in which someone wrote into mention how some he was talking to some guys at a party and they were complaining about the one Asian guy there, saying he was bringing down the hotness of the collective group.

On a side note, since I'm half Asian and half white, it's kind of weird because I feel that white guys view me as Asian (undesirable) and Asians view me as not Asian (somewhat desirable? Depends... I've noticed a lot of Asian guys like only white guys).
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Old 18th Jun 2009, 01:59 PM   #3
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Default Re: subtle racist attitude against gay Asian Australians within the continent?

Well, I for the record, think Australians are hot, and I also think Asians are hot.
So for me at least, it would be the best of both worlds.

In all seriousity though, I've heard that racism is a problem in Australia.

Communitychannel (aka Natalie Tran), who is Australian herself made an
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Old 18th Jun 2009, 06:08 PM   #4
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It's true, we do have a fair bit of racism down here. However our problems aren't as bad as some other countries.
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Old 4th Sep 2011, 02:13 AM   #5
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Hi there,

I'm Asian in Australia and I've got to let you know that gay Australians are very much racist if compared to their str8 counterpart. What your friend told you is true: Australians are racist. For those who claim otherwise is totally false. And even if compared to other countries, the degree of racism here is HIGH in the LGBT community. It is not subtle racism. So much for these aussie hypocrites who always accuses others discriminating them when they themselves are worst than any other type people.

If you want to verify this, just go to any aussie gay dating sites. You will see pages after pages of "No Asian please". The problem in Australia is that they don't even admit they are racist. If you tell them they are racist, they simply reply it's just preference/"but ....". It's the same excuse they make everywhere.

I've tried talking to locals but they will just treat you as invisible. I myself love both Asians and Caucasians and other races. I also felt sad that local born Asians are instilled with the same racism thought as the whites. Local Asians think Asians are inferior and consequently they felt insecure and only like whites. The most shocking truth is that the local Asians allowed this racism to happen and thinks the excuses the whites used are okay, that it's "simply a preference". What do you think when one can't even appreciate his own-self? His confidence is destroyed. His life is definitely affected...

So for overseas gay Asians, think twice before coming to Australia. For local gay Asians, I hope you can value your own race more and fight for racism. As for me, I'm leaving this place soon....

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Racism, at least in my opinion, is rampant throughout the entire gay community - Australia, the United States, and beyond.
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Default Re: subtle racist attitude against gay Asian Australians within the continent?

There's not a lot of racism against Asians I feel (at least in my area), but there is quite a bit of racism against Pacific Islanders.

But I can understand why some may have a preference yet not necessarily be racist. I have no problem with Asians, but when it comes to who I'm attracted to, it's generally white people. To some degree, if I was friendly to people on the basis of their attractiveness, I'd be racist.

But I'm not. I'd much rather a neighbourhood of Asians than a neighbourhood of bogans. But I can understand why such a thing would happen.
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In the middle of a conversation I was having with a few high-schol alumni friends who came back from Australia, the subject of gay Asians randomly came up. While we were mostly talking about the racism against them in the U. S., there was a quick mention about veiled racism in the Australian gay communities specifically towards the asian males. I was a bit surprised, because I originally thought that such a thing was only notably in the U. S. (I thought wrong, huh?).

Those who are located in Australia or have been there, would you say that it's true? If so, what can you describe about it? Eversince my friends brought it up, I've been interested in it.
There's both a general, slight racist attitude toward asians, and a general slightly homophobic attitude toward gay men. I don't think the combination of both in any person is intrinsically likely to garner more objections from bigots than you would statistically expect.
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Racism, at least in my opinion, is rampant throughout the entire gay community - Australia, the United States, and beyond.
Not just the gay community. Racism still permeates the institutions and cultures of all Western nations (and certainly non-Western nations as well).
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Default Re: subtle racist attitude against gay Asian Australians within the continent?

Gay asian born Australian, I would say yes to the racism to LGBT Asian Australians.
From experience, dating sites, speed dating. etc.
There's a lot of racism, and for many GAM (Gay Asian Males) they feel that only through dating white men that they can fit in with society
But at the end of the day, you are who you are, respect yourself, be proud of who you are.
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Default Re: subtle racist attitude against gay Asian Australians within the continent?

yes there is racism towards gay Asians in Australia. I do see some profiles which state: "No Asians" and even though we have our preferences, its better to state an less offensive remark on profiles than that.

I am friends with an few gay Australian males and they do love living out in Australia.
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I do not understand how posting on a dating site's profile "no asians" is racist. Well, I guess the way that is worded would seem mean. But, it's just a preference....
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I do not understand how posting on a dating site's profile "no asians" is racist. Well, I guess the way that is worded would seem mean. But, it's just a preference....
Well an non racist approach on an profile would be:'prefer white guys' instead of saying "no asians" or other labels such as 'no fatties'.that is unfair and if u prefer an inshape guy, say what you prefer such as " prefer fit looking guys" and so on.

I not asian but if I see an guy that says "No asians" in his profile, I wont bother responding to his add.

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I guess so. Some people get offended by the "prefer" too.
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Like I said the correct way of posting an add is what you are into, not what you are not into. If an Asian or someone else you not into hits you up, all you got to do is not respond.

But going around and posting "No Asians" brings back the old days of seeing signs of "No Colored"...Of course everyone is entitled to their own sexual preference.

I have my likes and dislikes but I dont post "No Asians" or "sorry no Indians". I leave it to my discretion on who I respond to.

It’s usually white guys who are so callous about posting which races they AREN’T into. However it doesn’t make them racist, but it does make them socially ignorant. Get a fucken clue is what I say to all these douchebags who do post classless profiles like this and have some tact.
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