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rocking23 · 18th Jun 2009, 05:08 PM

Hey guy 'n' gals

With Bruno coming out July 10, GLAAD is becoming more and more upset:

http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/marc_...rss_topstories

Here's the Bruno trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAGpmNb2xfQ
(Embedding was disabled)

So what do you guys think?

Yes? No?

Personally, I am SO excited for it! It looks SO good!

Shevanel · 18th Jun 2009, 05:13 PM

I don't really understand how it could be demeaning. Thats like saying how Borat was demeaning toward the people of Kazakhstan. Or how Ali G is demeaning toward chavs? or wankstas? XD Either way, I think it'd be silly to see this as a negativity.

L|L · 18th Jun 2009, 05:47 PM

er gefaellt mir sehr!!!

Greggers · 18th Jun 2009, 05:47 PM

I personally want to meet this guy and thank him for making this movie.

Some people just get offended too easily. If we cant make fun of ourselves then we need to loosen up, juuuuust a little bit.

Im not saying its "Totally and 100% not offensive" cause im sure it will be. Not every heterosexual person who watches this is going to become less homophobic. Im sure some redneck will walk in, watch the movie, and then go kick the shit out of the next gay person he sees because he assumes he is exactly like Bruno. But guess what, that redneck was not going to change his mind from an hour and something long movie anyways.

Im sure this will improve the views of alot of people who are more open to being changed. If anything, it gets the word out. During these times i think its good to get as much media attention as possible. Even having Bill O'Riley dump on everything good and positive in the gay community helps us in the end.

**Martin** · 18th Jun 2009, 05:50 PM

I don't really find him offensive or anything like that. I think we'd be overly sensitive if we got offended by it, and it would just make it easier for people to ridicule our community if we couldn't have a laugh and a joke at jokes he makes. Bruno aims to expose peoples idiocy towards homosexuals, and he does that by emphasising the stereotypes attached to our community. It's not ideal to use them, but it's sort of necessary for his comedy so that people can identify what he's meant to be portraying without him actually telling us.

I think there are far more serious problems to tackle before we start getting up in arms about comedy characters.

Jose Carioca · 18th Jun 2009, 05:50 PM

It's not making fun of gays, but the reactions of homophobes to gays.

No One · 18th Jun 2009, 06:04 PM

I think its a horrible movie.

Shevanel · 18th Jun 2009, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No one

I think its a horrible movie.

I'd like to know how you've already seen it.

Apocalypte · 18th Jun 2009, 06:49 PM

I think it's going to be hilarious. I was honestly nearly falling around laughing at the trailer.

SirBoobalot · 18th Jun 2009, 06:56 PM

It doesn't look particularly funny, I guess it's just not the kind of humour I like - but eh, bad movies happen all the time. When there people losing their jobs, their rights, their safety to homophobia... it seems pretty pointless to get all het up over some silly film.

kramer362 · 18th Jun 2009, 07:18 PM

It's making fun of the over the top stereotypes and assumptions about gay people made by homophobes, and exploits unknowing homophobes for millions to see. I think it'll be hilarious.

Personally though his best character to me is Ali G and he kinda missed the mark with that movie, he should have done it like the series, or the Borat and Bruno movies where he prays on unsuspecting people, haha.

18th Jun 2009, 09:09 PM

I am not offended by it, I won't go see it though. Also, what he did to eminem was priceless. I can't stand that asshole.

AXavierB · 18th Jun 2009, 09:13 PM

I don't think it looks offensive at all. It's making fun of gay stereotypes, not gay people.

I think some gay people these days take offense too easily. I think a little self-deprecation is fun.

I saw what happened with Eminem too, and I agree it was priceless. The look on the guy's face just made me laugh.

HazMattic_Force · 18th Jun 2009, 09:17 PM

i am going to see it period lol like family guy it shows they don't say gay is bad but the other people's reactions are ..... i mean listen to the family guy episode were peter gets injected with gay gene the commentary is all pro-gay .... so ya i like some of the gay jokes to i mean its not all demeaning to us ... so ya .

Just Adam · 18th Jun 2009, 09:20 PM

of the two options i put demeaning as it may reinforce some people sterotypes, allthough i see it more as a parody of the streotypical view. really though i just dont care:S

i know it doesent define me and no reasaonable person would make any judgements on it

Black Cat · 18th Jun 2009, 09:20 PM

I have no problems with movies like this because ,as previously mentioned, they make fun of the stereotypical behaviors that gay people are believed to be. As an aspiring comedian myself, I feel that making fun of stereotypes society projects onto certain people is one of the best ways to destroy the barrier and show the audience how untrue they really are.

kramer362 · 18th Jun 2009, 11:02 PM

http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/2008-12-...upset-by-bruno

"Bruno is an attack on vapid celebrity. He's an attack on people who are homophobic. And, yes... brace yourselves... he may even be an attack on people who blanket themselves in one aspect of their personality and then crank that aspect up to a deafening "11," just to force a reaction out of others."

Well put

Amy · 18th Jun 2009, 11:13 PM

I find it hilarious. I hated Borat because it was stupid, but this looks like it'd actually be interesting.

**Ben** · 18th Jun 2009, 11:50 PM

This looks amazing. I love Bruno.

The only person from Kazakhstan that I've known absolutely hated Borat.

djt820 · 18th Jun 2009, 11:52 PM

It Will Kick Ass!

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18th Jun 2009, 05:08 PM	#1
rocking23 EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Toronto Age: 19 Posts: 452 Join Date: May 2008	For or Against Bruno? Hey guy 'n' gals With Bruno coming out July 10, GLAAD is becoming more and more upset: http://ca.eonline.com/uberblog/marc_...rss_topstories Here's the Bruno trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAGpmNb2xfQ (Embedding was disabled) So what do you guys think? Yes? No? Personally, I am SO excited for it! It looks SO good!

18th Jun 2009, 05:13 PM	#2
Shevanel One Is Light. One Is Dark. Full Member Gender: The Dude Orientation: Bi-Winning Out Status: Everybody and Your Mom. Location: Bolivar, Ohio (From NY though) Age: 21 Posts: 7,672 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: For or Against Bruno? I don't really understand how it could be demeaning. Thats like saying how Borat was demeaning toward the people of Kazakhstan. Or how Ali G is demeaning toward chavs? or wankstas? XD Either way, I think it'd be silly to see this as a negativity. __________________ If there were no rewards to reap, No loving embrace to see me through this tedious path I've chosen here, I certainly would've walked away by now. Gonna wait it out... Be patient.

18th Jun 2009, 05:47 PM	#3
L\|L EC Addict Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Age: 32 Posts: 351 Join Date: Mar 2007	Re: For or Against Bruno? er gefaellt mir sehr!!!

18th Jun 2009, 05:47 PM	#4
Greggers Sunshine & Optimism ...also Angels. Full Member Gender: Theatre Queen Orientation: Disco Sticks Out Status: Everyone and a few more Location: BC, Canada Age: 21 Posts: 3,528 Join Date: Dec 2008	Re: For or Against Bruno? I personally want to meet this guy and thank him for making this movie. Some people just get offended too easily. If we cant make fun of ourselves then we need to loosen up, juuuuust a little bit. Im not saying its "Totally and 100% not offensive" cause im sure it will be. Not every heterosexual person who watches this is going to become less homophobic. Im sure some redneck will walk in, watch the movie, and then go kick the shit out of the next gay person he sees because he assumes he is exactly like Bruno. But guess what, that redneck was not going to change his mind from an hour and something long movie anyways. Im sure this will improve the views of alot of people who are more open to being changed. If anything, it gets the word out. During these times i think its good to get as much media attention as possible. Even having Bill O'Riley dump on everything good and positive in the gay community helps us in the end. __________________ "It's a male duck."

18th Jun 2009, 05:50 PM	#5
Martin EC's Red Queen EC Admin Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some people Location: Merseyside, UK Age: 21 Posts: 8,047 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: For or Against Bruno? I don't really find him offensive or anything like that. I think we'd be overly sensitive if we got offended by it, and it would just make it easier for people to ridicule our community if we couldn't have a laugh and a joke at jokes he makes. Bruno aims to expose peoples idiocy towards homosexuals, and he does that by emphasising the stereotypes attached to our community. It's not ideal to use them, but it's sort of necessary for his comedy so that people can identify what he's meant to be portraying without him actually telling us. I think there are far more serious problems to tackle before we start getting up in arms about comedy characters. __________________ The blue whale ejaculates up to 40 gallons during sexual intercourse, but only 10 gallons enters the female. Do you still wonder why the sea tastes salty?

18th Jun 2009, 05:50 PM	#6
Jose Carioca 1/3 of the Three Caballeros Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: M/M Out Status: A few people Location: San Diego Age: 20 Posts: 287 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: For or Against Bruno? It's not making fun of gays, but the reactions of homophobes to gays. __________________ It's better to be hated for who you are... .. than loved for who you are not.

18th Jun 2009, 06:04 PM	#7
No One Eternally Male Crazed! Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Unofficially out to everyone but my family. Age: 18 Posts: 1,021 Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: For or Against Bruno? I think its a horrible movie. __________________

18th Jun 2009, 06:49 PM	#9
Apocalypte Ytse Jamming. Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 27 Posts: 2,217 Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: For or Against Bruno? I think it's going to be hilarious. I was honestly nearly falling around laughing at the trailer. __________________ "I like my beer cold...my TV loud...and my homosexuals flaming." - Homer Simpson

18th Jun 2009, 06:56 PM	#10
SirBoobalot "Might as well be a lessie, eh Ems" Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: All but family Location: SE England Age: 20 Posts: 102 Join Date: Feb 2009	Re: For or Against Bruno? It doesn't look particularly funny, I guess it's just not the kind of humour I like - but eh, bad movies happen all the time. When there people losing their jobs, their rights, their safety to homophobia... it seems pretty pointless to get all het up over some silly film.

18th Jun 2009, 07:18 PM	#11
kramer362 EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: western new york Age: 26 Posts: 400 Join Date: Nov 2007	Re: For or Against Bruno? It's making fun of the over the top stereotypes and assumptions about gay people made by homophobes, and exploits unknowing homophobes for millions to see. I think it'll be hilarious. Personally though his best character to me is Ali G and he kinda missed the mark with that movie, he should have done it like the series, or the Borat and Bruno movies where he prays on unsuspecting people, haha.

18th Jun 2009, 09:09 PM	#12
nintenfreak92 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: For or Against Bruno? I am not offended by it, I won't go see it though. Also, what he did to eminem was priceless. I can't stand that asshole.

18th Jun 2009, 09:13 PM	#13
AXavierB Escapist Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: Heterosexually impaired Out Status: My fag hag and a couple of friends Location: Southfield, MI Age: 19 Posts: 78 Join Date: May 2009	Re: For or Against Bruno? I don't think it looks offensive at all. It's making fun of gay stereotypes, not gay people. I think some gay people these days take offense too easily. I think a little self-deprecation is fun. I saw what happened with Eminem too, and I agree it was priceless. The look on the guy's face just made me laugh. __________________

18th Jun 2009, 09:17 PM	#14
HazMattic_Force EC's Residential Raver Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Little Rock, Arkansas Age: 19 Posts: 696 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: For or Against Bruno? i am going to see it period lol like family guy it shows they don't say gay is bad but the other people's reactions are ..... i mean listen to the family guy episode were peter gets injected with gay gene the commentary is all pro-gay .... so ya i like some of the gay jokes to i mean its not all demeaning to us ... so ya . __________________ Humanity is Sadism at its Finest .

18th Jun 2009, 09:20 PM	#15
Just Adam Just passing through Full Member Gender: Something Orientation: Dunno Out Status: If they ask i will tell them Location: Wherever Age: 23 Posts: 6,002 Join Date: Mar 2009	Re: For or Against Bruno? of the two options i put demeaning as it may reinforce some people sterotypes, allthough i see it more as a parody of the streotypical view. really though i just dont care:S i know it doesent define me and no reasaonable person would make any judgements on it __________________ There Used To Be A Point Of Things.

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