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14th Jul 2009, 10:50 AM

Im looking up movies from the tribecca film festival and I decided to look at the lgbt entires. I find a movie named Outrage and I look into it. The name that pops out is the governor of my state which I have believed to be gay for a while now. I look up the discussion with the director as well as some gay rights activists and I see this quote just sticking up like a splinter:

Larry Kramer: [Mentions in passing that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were gay. When the audience laughs, Kramer gets fired up and angrily yells at the audience.] Why are you laughing?! That drives me up the fucking wall. George Washington was gay. He was in love with Alexander Hamilton and Lafayette—the three of them. It is going to come out more and more. Abraham Lincoln, we know was gay. The number of people who were gay in this history of our country is huge. Why are you laughing? We need to know our history. They would treat us better—Republicans—if they knew for a fact that Abraham Lincoln, their great savior, was one of us.

Our history has been taken away from us by straight historians who have no concept of who we are or will not let us be who we are.

Im googling a mail a second looking up info. Does anyone know anything on this?

btw its a nice convo if you want to read it. http://www.tribecafilm.com/news-feat...s_Outrage.html

14th Jul 2009, 10:56 AM

there was a book written about this( ''The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln'' ) but the author died before he could fix the rough copy, so they decied to publish the rough copy (OMG)

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52c0a9639c8b63

mattypants · 14th Jul 2009, 11:00 AM

imagine the herasey!

xD
intresting quote indeed

Shevanel · 14th Jul 2009, 11:31 AM

+ YouTube Video

Ahh but if George Washington was gay, then this whole scene wouldn't exist!
(i know the embedding is disabled, so just click the damn video

)

Martha Washington was a hip, hip lady.

seadog · 14th Jul 2009, 11:38 AM

(Re: comment that republicans are against "us"-- I am republican, and I am not against us. Neither is Dick Cheney. Best not equate Republicans with some bible-thumpers who want to tell everyone what God's judgment is.)

Shevanel · 14th Jul 2009, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seadog

(Re: comment that republicans are against "us"-- I am republican, and I am not against us. Neither is Dick Cheney. Best not equate Republicans with some bible-thumpers who want to tell everyone what God's judgment is.)

Hell yes dude. Good job pointing that out. I'm more or less an unregistered Republican I guess but I stay Independent. But seriously, I hate when issues are seen like that and people group things so simply like that =/

14th Jul 2009, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seadog

(Re: comment that republicans are against "us"-- I am republican, and I am not against us. Neither is Dick Cheney. Best not equate Republicans with some bible-thumpers who want to tell everyone what God's judgment is.)

I didnt write the quote but I do agree with it somewhat. For the past 8 years most of the anti-gay movement supporters were in fact, republicans but dont forget those who just let it happend, democrats. The libertarians were one of the few groups who stood up aginst these bible thumping republicans.

But thats not the issue. Lincon had 4 documented relationships with men in his lifetime. All went well, but his 2-3 relationships with women all had signifigant problems...makes you wonder.

14th Jul 2009, 10:50 AM	#1
Legnaj Guest Posts: n/a	Abe And Washington Were Gay? Im looking up movies from the tribecca film festival and I decided to look at the lgbt entires. I find a movie named Outrage and I look into it. The name that pops out is the governor of my state which I have believed to be gay for a while now. I look up the discussion with the director as well as some gay rights activists and I see this quote just sticking up like a splinter: Larry Kramer: [Mentions in passing that George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were gay. When the audience laughs, Kramer gets fired up and angrily yells at the audience.] Why are you laughing?! That drives me up the fucking wall. George Washington was gay. He was in love with Alexander Hamilton and Lafayette—the three of them. It is going to come out more and more. Abraham Lincoln, we know was gay. The number of people who were gay in this history of our country is huge. Why are you laughing? We need to know our history. They would treat us better—Republicans—if they knew for a fact that Abraham Lincoln, their great savior, was one of us. Our history has been taken away from us by straight historians who have no concept of who we are or will not let us be who we are. Im googling a mail a second looking up info. Does anyone know anything on this? btw its a nice convo if you want to read it. http://www.tribecafilm.com/news-feat...s_Outrage.html Last edited by Legnaj; 14th Jul 2009 at 11:02 AM..

14th Jul 2009, 10:56 AM	#2
Legnaj Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Abe And Washington Were Gay? there was a book written about this( ''The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln'' ) but the author died before he could fix the rough copy, so they decied to publish the rough copy (OMG) http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...52c0a9639c8b63

14th Jul 2009, 11:00 AM	#3
mattypants Chacun à son goût Full Member Gender: male/garçon/hombre Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some friends Some family and the lesbians Location: Los angeles, Ca Posts: 2,733 Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: Abe And Washington Were Gay? imagine the herasey! xD intresting quote indeed __________________

14th Jul 2009, 11:38 AM	#5
seadog Love Beyond Labels Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Bisexual Out Status: Barely Location: Washington Posts: 465 Join Date: Jun 2009	Re: Abe And Washington Were Gay? (Re: comment that republicans are against "us"-- I am republican, and I am not against us. Neither is Dick Cheney. Best not equate Republicans with some bible-thumpers who want to tell everyone what God's judgment is.) __________________ My mission is to comfort the disturbed and to disturb the comfortable.