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Old 26th Aug 2009, 06:13 AM   #1
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Default This rings bells for me atm.

I don't feel like I can trust straight people yet to be comfortable with them. This comment gives a bit of hope though.

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I had known about PFLAG for a long time. I knew it was a straight organization for parents with gay children. I had just separated from my wife and was trying to find support for her. I had the whole gay community to go to but as a wife of a gay man my wife had no support. I decided to attend a PFLAG meeting then report back to my wife. However, the realization didn’t hit me until I walked into the meeting that this would be my first time interacting with a group of straight people as an openly gay man.

I found PFLAGers, well, sort of weird. There was Bunny so proud of her lesbian daughter and Boots who spoke so glowingly of her gay son and Nancy who was so funny and comfortable about having a gay sister. My brain just couldn’t handle what it was hearing. I wondered how long it would take before someone slipped up and called me a faggot.

I couldn’t recommend PFLAG after just one meeting so I attended several more. The weirdness continued but nobody slipped up. Then one day I asked myself what if these PFLAGers really meant what they were saying. What if these straight people really loved their gay children just the way they are.

I realize now that it took several months of a group of “gay positive” straight people challenging my long held belief that straight people could at best only tolerate gay people before I could get it through my thick skull that I might be wrong.

That day I started to let go of my fear of rejection long enough to start trusting straight people again. I hadn’t realized how unsafe I had always felt. Now I almost always feel safe because I know there are many more PFLAGer types out there than those who would do me harm. Now PFLAGers don’t seem weird at all.
http://www.imfromdriftwood.com/2009/...om-phoenix-az/

Made me tear up a bit reading it.
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 09:12 AM   #2
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Default Re: This rings bells for me atm.

That's and awesome passage. Thanks for sharing it. I think it's true. And those people who aren't as accepting and loving towards gay people need to be educated.
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 10:32 AM   #3
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Default Re: This rings bells for me atm.

I never had any problems trusting straight people, but I do like that passage!
There are indeed a lot of people that are truly accepting and caring! And with more education more people will come around to acceptance!
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 10:50 AM   #4
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Default Re: This rings bells for me atm.

i do find it hard with straight people but it depens on the people themselves not because of their sexuality but how they react to mine and how they view people who are different. i dont act differently towards straight people, im not stand offish but i would admit im not as open as id like to be, i suppose i am afraid at times, but im pretty good judge of character and if someones accepting i would be honest if asked.

not come up yet though i think...i may of been drunk though at some point and someone asked and i jsut say yea sure why not or summat without paying attention... anyway i digress where was i umm...ahh yea

this passage is very nice showing the human condition of growth its sweet
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 03:13 PM   #5
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Default Re: This rings bells for me atm.

I had a wake up call one day.
I just discovered the US Queer as Folks at that time, and I was really enjoying the show.
And then, I listen that quote from the character of Brian Kinney : "There are two kinds of straight people in the world, those that hate you to your face and those who hate you behind your back."
And I felt like this quote hit me straight (so to speak) in the face.
Because I never thought gay people could see ME this way. I never thought my gay, bi or whatever not straight friends could be scared of ME and what I think of them. And I started to wonder if it was the reason that some of them came out to me so late, or didn't came out to me at all.
This had probably been one of the reasons I started researching about coming out and finaly ended up on EC.
There is not two kind of straight people. There is a third one, the kind of straight people who don't think that a non-heterosexual orientation makes any human being less than his heterosexual neighbourg. I stand for this kind of straight people.
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 07:34 PM   #6
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I had a wake up call one day.
I just discovered the US Queer as Folks at that time, and I was really enjoying the show.
And then, I listen that quote from the character of Brian Kinney : "There are two kinds of straight people in the world, those that hate you to your face and those who hate you behind your back."
And I felt like this quote hit me straight (so to speak) in the face.
Because I never thought gay people could see ME this way. I never thought my gay, bi or whatever not straight friends could be scared of ME and what I think of them. And I started to wonder if it was the reason that some of them came out to me so late, or didn't came out to me at all.
This had probably been one of the reasons I started researching about coming out and finaly ended up on EC.
There is not two kind of straight people. There is a third one, the kind of straight people who don't think that a non-heterosexual orientation makes any human being less than his heterosexual neighbourg. I stand for this kind of straight people.
That quote is correct imo. All the straight people I meet only tolerate. I've gotten used to it.

If you have met some that don't just tolerate but actually LIKE having you around then more power to ya.
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Old 26th Aug 2009, 07:41 PM   #7
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"There are two kinds of straight people in the world, those that hate you to your face and those who hate you behind your back."
This used to be in my signature
I still [to some degree] agree with this. I mean, I fully acknowledge the third group you speak of, but these people are few and far between.
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