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Joey · 29th Sep 2009, 06:07 PM

So, I'm writing this big thesis for my Bioethics course on animal testing and it got ma a-thinkin. I was wondering what everybody's thoughts were on this subject.... do you think it's good? bad? some for of necessary evil? or are you apathetic to it all?

Black Cat · 29th Sep 2009, 09:05 PM

Seeing as how my aunt works in a lab that does various tests on rats and sterile pigs, I find it to be a necessary evil to the medical world. We could just as easily test out things on prisoners with the death penalty, but that's a different argument for another day. When it comes to testing stuff on monkeys or whatever else they test things on for stupid purposes (i.e. cosmetics and things like that) that are pretty much pointless in my eyes, I say its not right at all.

mattypants · 29th Sep 2009, 09:59 PM

personally, i think if someone can justify it for the name of "good" or science, i can be allowed to do it for no reason.

i suppose i'd be an apathetic guy

djt820 · 29th Sep 2009, 10:21 PM

Its probably not right but will end up happening. We treat the idea of life poorly as humans so we can expect this animal testing to keep going on.

1st Oct 2009, 01:47 PM

im not a fan of animal testing myself but i do know that it is necessary. there should only be certain things tho and the animals should have no ill treatment or pain.

Apocalypte · 1st Oct 2009, 01:51 PM

It's not a pleasant thing, but it's a necessary evil in the interests of science.

NickT · 1st Oct 2009, 04:41 PM

There have been experiments that were truly harmful to the animals and were inhumane. However, in order to explore and experiment new information, we gotta have something to test. Animals, unfortunately, are our only options =/

Joey · 1st Oct 2009, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NickT

There have been experiments that were truly harmful to the animals and were inhumane. However, in order to explore and experiment new information, we gotta have something to test. Animals, unfortunately, are our only options =/

Not necessarily... some of the literature I've been reading is pretty morbid in giving the same moral virtue and validity of animals to babies, children and retarded adults. In those arguments it would be morally reprehensible NOT to test on retarded adults and the like AS WELL AS animals.

People are pretty messed up.

matty123 · 2nd Oct 2009, 04:30 PM

well being someone who is going into a sciencey career direction, my personal opinion is that to some extent its important, and if it saves lives then surely its worth it??But the i can't see myself ever being able to experiment and test on animals, i'm a complete animal lover, but then so is my sister, and she has done some rat experimentation shizz on a course during her physiology uni degree and she seemed ok with it, so i'm kinda for it because i think right now its a necessity and helps greatly with scientific research and drug trials etc, but don't wish to participate in it

stratavos · 3rd Oct 2009, 09:11 AM

1 more vote for necessary evil (I'm the one voting)

29th Sep 2009, 06:07 PM	#1
Joey EC Addict Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: tiny tiny University in northern Maryland Age: 23 Posts: 503 Join Date: Apr 2008	What are you thoughts on... So, I'm writing this big thesis for my Bioethics course on animal testing and it got ma a-thinkin. I was wondering what everybody's thoughts were on this subject.... do you think it's good? bad? some for of necessary evil? or are you apathetic to it all? __________________ I was smacked in the face with a piece of chicken which was covered in Thousand Island Dressing today... somehow, I know it'll be all right in the end.

29th Sep 2009, 09:05 PM	#2
Black Cat As Seen On Hoarders... Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: This cat is out of the bag - I mean closet Location: Pennsylvania, with the cows Age: 21 Posts: 2,391 Join Date: Jun 2009	Re: What are you thoughts on... Seeing as how my aunt works in a lab that does various tests on rats and sterile pigs, I find it to be a necessary evil to the medical world. We could just as easily test out things on prisoners with the death penalty, but that's a different argument for another day. When it comes to testing stuff on monkeys or whatever else they test things on for stupid purposes (i.e. cosmetics and things like that) that are pretty much pointless in my eyes, I say its not right at all. __________________ "Your life is an occasion. Rise to it." - Mr. Magorium

29th Sep 2009, 09:59 PM	#3
mattypants Chacun à son goût Full Member Gender: male/garçon/hombre Orientation: Gay Out Status: Some friends Some family and the lesbians Location: Los angeles, Ca Posts: 2,733 Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: What are you thoughts on... personally, i think if someone can justify it for the name of "good" or science, i can be allowed to do it for no reason. i suppose i'd be an apathetic guy __________________

29th Sep 2009, 10:21 PM	#4
djt820 Brutally Honest Regular Member Gender: Male Orientation: DICKS EVERYWHERE Out Status: Like A Cock Slapping Your Face Kind-of Out. Location: SoCal Age: 19 Posts: 1,282 Join Date: Feb 2009	Re: What are you thoughts on... Its probably not right but will end up happening. We treat the idea of life poorly as humans so we can expect this animal testing to keep going on. __________________

1st Oct 2009, 01:47 PM	#5
gaz83 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What are you thoughts on... im not a fan of animal testing myself but i do know that it is necessary. there should only be certain things tho and the animals should have no ill treatment or pain.

1st Oct 2009, 01:51 PM	#6
Apocalypte Ytse Jamming. Full Member Gender: Female Orientation: Lesbian Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Dublin, Ireland Age: 27 Posts: 2,217 Join Date: Oct 2008	Re: What are you thoughts on... It's not a pleasant thing, but it's a necessary evil in the interests of science. __________________ "I like my beer cold...my TV loud...and my homosexuals flaming." - Homer Simpson

1st Oct 2009, 04:41 PM	#7
NickT Mr. Grammar Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: Out to everyone Location: Kentucky Posts: 985 Join Date: Sep 2009	Re: What are you thoughts on... There have been experiments that were truly harmful to the animals and were inhumane. However, in order to explore and experiment new information, we gotta have something to test. Animals, unfortunately, are our only options =/

2nd Oct 2009, 04:30 PM	#9
matty123 Well Known Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: Gay Out Status: A few people Location: Lichfield, UK Age: 20 Posts: 187 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: What are you thoughts on... well being someone who is going into a sciencey career direction, my personal opinion is that to some extent its important, and if it saves lives then surely its worth it??But the i can't see myself ever being able to experiment and test on animals, i'm a complete animal lover, but then so is my sister, and she has done some rat experimentation shizz on a course during her physiology uni degree and she seemed ok with it, so i'm kinda for it because i think right now its a necessity and helps greatly with scientific research and drug trials etc, but don't wish to participate in it

3rd Oct 2009, 09:11 AM	#10
stratavos professional lurker Full Member Gender: Male Orientation: bisexual prefering males Out Status: don't ask don't tell (ask and I'll tell) Location: oakville(college) and oshawa(hometown) ont, Canada Age: 22 Posts: 1,101 Join Date: Apr 2009	Re: What are you thoughts on... 1 more vote for necessary evil (I'm the one voting) __________________ <-is a very bad influence... and definately enjoys it hail lord ilpallazzo!

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